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For an overview of submachine gun models in the Fallout series of games, see submachine gun.

 
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Having lived by the gun - well, Vance owned one, anyway - it was only fitting that the duo of desperadoes would die by the gun.Primm Slim, Fallout: New Vegas

Vance's 9mm submachine gun (SMG) is a weapon in Fallout: New Vegas. It is the unique variant of the 9mm SMG and was once owned by Vance of the crime duo, Vikki and Vance.

Background[edit | edit source]

Vance and his wife Vikki were "master criminals" before the Great War. The player character can hear the story of Vikki and Vance by consulting Primm Slim in the Vikki and Vance Casino. Slim's account implies that Vikki and Vance were in fact small-time white-collar criminals. According to Slim, Vance owned this high-quality mint condition 9mm machinegun but never fired it. The weapon is missing from its display case in the Vikki and Vance Casino.

The plaque next to the empty gun case reads:

The 9mm submachinegun preserved in this glass case to the left of this plaque is the ACTUAL weapon Vance carried in a paper-wrapped box under some suitcases in the trunk of his car during his and Vikki's crime spree! Never fired, and luckily untouched by the hail of bullets that ended its notorious owner's life, the weapon's mint condition inspires dread in all who look upon it. Experts speculate that Vance might have killed as many as fifty people had he ever fired the gun - so long as his aim was exact and he was starting off with a full clip - or even more if he had additional ammo clips and remembered to reload!

Characteristics[edit | edit source]

Vance's 9mm submachine gun expanded

Vance's 9mm SMG has several differences from the standard 9mm SMG. First and foremost, it does more damage, the damage-per-second is higher, and it has a drum magazine with a greater capacity. Aesthetically, it is in pristine condition with wood or Bakelite grip panels, lacks a stock, and has a different Express-type iron sight. Its high rate of fire, common ammunition, and high DPS makes it a valuable weapon to one skilled in Guns.

Durability[edit | edit source]

Vance's 9mm submachine gun can fire a total of about 3745 standard rounds, the equivalent of 63 reloads, from full condition before breaking.

Ammunition typeDurability
ShotsReloads
Standard, HP & JHP374563
+P312052

Variant[edit | edit source]

Comparison[edit | edit source]

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Weapon name (current weapon is highlighted)- Weapon name (melee or unarmed)Attacks in V.A.T.S.- Attacks in V.A.T.S.
Weapon name (current weapon is highlighted)- Weapon name (gun, energy or explosive)Action point cost- Action point cost
Damage per attack (damage per projectile)- Damage per attack (damage per projectile)Damage per action point- Damage per action point
Damage per second- Damage per secondWeapon spread- Weapon spread
Area of effect damage- Area of effect damageMagazine capacity (shots per reload)- Magazine capacity (shots per reload)
Effect damage & duration- Effect damage & durationDurability (number of attacks before breaking)- Durability (number of attacks before breaking)
Bonus effects- Bonus effectsWeight- Weight
Attacks per second- Attacks per secondValue in caps- Value in caps
Critical chance % multiplier- Critical chance % multiplierValue to weight ratio- Value to weight ratio
Critical damage- Critical damageSkill required- Skill required
Critical effect damage & duration- Critical effect damage & durationStrength required- Strength required
With all mods attached- With all mods attached
Weapon name (current weapon is highlighted)Damage per attack (damage per projectile)Damage per secondAttacks per secondCritical Chance % multiplierCritical damageAttacks in V.A.T.S.Action Point costDamage per action pointWeapon spreadMagazine capacity (shots per reload)Durability (number of attacks before breaking)WeightValue in capsValue to weight ratioSkill requiredStrength required
9mm submachine gun 14
15411x0.06144202.81.53027454850212.5253
9mm submachine gun With all weapon mods attached 14
200.214.3x0.06146204.21.560274542500625253
Vance's 9mm submachine gun 17
22113x0.05175204.31.560374541500375253

Location[edit | edit source]

Despite the weapon being missing from its display case, Primm Slim does not notice. With high enough Science skill (50), however, one will gain a dialogue option to reveal that the weapon was taken to Wins hideout, where it can be found inside the safe with a Very Hard lock. The lock can be picked or with a high enough Speech skill (55), one can convince the Wins to provide the combination.

Related quests[edit | edit source]

Notes[edit | edit source]

Vance's 9mm is not in perfect condition.

Behind the scenes[edit | edit source]

Vikki and Vance are a reference to the real world Bonnie and Clyde. The combination of the safe is 05-23-34, the date the crime duo was killed in real life.

Bugs[edit | edit source]

PCIcon pc.png Xbox 360Icon xbox360.png Sometimes the magazine may not be where it should; it will hover near the end of the gun. [verified]

  • Reloading the gun will fix this, as will drawing the gun out and then re-holstering. Switching weapons may also fix this bug with this weapon and others.

Sounds[edit | edit source]

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Gallery[edit | edit source]

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