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I have found something interesting about the Brotherhood knights that spawn on the Prydwen, especially the ones that guard the entrance to the ship itself, If they are killed early in the game without being sptted they will respawn in groups of 2 with gatling lasers.-- 11:54, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Audio Bytes

Well, there is a built in option in the CK edit response window to record files as a LIP file. Though the files used here on the wiki are OGG vorbis files. Which isn't possible to generate just via the CK. So again, an external software will be needed. There exists many different ones for this particular purpose, personally I use Audacity, Audacity is a free open source audio software that can be used for multiple other purposes other than generating OGG vorbis files. If you're not familiar with using Audacity or don't know how to properly set up the needed setting for this to work, I'll explain it in this message. So, to get started, download Audacity, and then launch it. First off, navigate the cursor to the right hand side of the window, there should be a total of 4 minor extensions in the top row, click on the first one and set it to "MME". This is an multi media extension that will allow certain audio and/or video functions to work properly.

Move the cursor just a bit to the "microphone icon" to the right of the MME setting, select "Stereo Mixer". If this option isn't available then you can right click on the volume icon on Windows in the bottom row and select "Recording Devices". This will open up another window with all the recording devices on your computer, scroll down until you see the "Stereo Mixer". Right click on it and enable it. Now stereo mix should be available as an option in Audacity.
Next to the Microphone icon another sub-window should be visible, click on it and select (Mono) Recording. And you're done! You may also need to select which audio output the sound comes to, for example headphones. ANow it's just to open up the edit response window in CK start recoring in Audacity and double click the sound file in CK to start playing it. When you've trimmed and adjusted the volume the how you like it you just need to click on "File" in the top left corner, click export audio and select the file format to be OGG Vorbis-file.
Best regards JACKIBOY.gif (talk) 19:49, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

Ash Like Snow

Here as promised earlier on chat. ;) ------Cassie I can see you. 16:37, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Notice template

It's the Notice template. To use it you'll want to type {{subst:Notice|parameter number}} or you can use a shorthand word. Like talkpage, war, etc. Great Mara (talk) 18:20, April 27, 2017 (UTC)


Here Saka, as promised earlier in chat. ------Cassie I can see you. 17:31, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

Every little thing: 4 FORCE Album

Here Saka, you might be interested. ------Cassie I can see you. 13:07, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Bot rights

I wouldn't worry about clogging up recent changes with your edits. Don't concern yourself too much with the notable content template being used on exactly 5 quotes on many character pages, making it a bit useless. It was put there for with more quotes in mind, but we never got around to adding more mostly. Leave those be I think. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 21:01, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Laser pistol.

I think I was actually the person who added that in. It's just that no other item page has something like that. However I haven't found any rules in the policy's and guidelines saying it can't be there just because it's been cut from the final release of the game.123123abcabc (talk) 09:54, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Feeding the Troops, thanks

I was trying to figure out how to re-word it properly, had a bad cold the last few days and haven't been able to focus, so I just removed it in hopes someone would notice to rewrite it. I didn't even remember editing anything yesterday until I got an email. Rebel427 (talk) 10:34, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Ya, Shane is really good at that. I'm just glad I didn't edit something that was good information to be honest. And if you need any help let me know, not the best with templates, but I have to learn some time. Rebel427 (talk) 07:22, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, it doesn't look all that complicated, but I haven't used anything like that in 14 years. I'm not making any promises. I do play FoS off and on, I use to be really active on it, but I guess I've grown bored with it. I've completed all of the non daily quests already, I suppose I could look through my log and see if there's anything not listed. Rebel427 (talk) 01:15, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

If you point out a few articles you think I could help with I'd appreciate it, I added a couple of things last night, but I'm not the best editor around.

Also sorry for the spam, and removing stuff, was trying to figure out how to get a nifty name and talk page link, I'll save that for another time. Rebel427 (talk) 10:12, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, I'll see what I can do. Don't think it's going to be much though. Need to remember how to make a sandbox for myself so I can get the walkthoughs right. Rebel427 (talk) 02:29, June 1, 2017 (UTC)

Also what are we trying to do again? Because most of these look completed already. The FoS quick walkthroughs? Rebel427 (talk) 02:39, June 1, 2017 (UTC)

I've been on pain killers the last few days, been pretty out of it. Injured myself again, so I haven't been up for doing all that much. I will use that as an example though and see if I can help out with any when I can find time. Enjoy your trip! Rebel427 (talk) 10:26, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Also, when you chose to put your admin request up, you've got my vote 100%, not sure how much weight I carry around here, but I've learned a lot from you, best Admin candidate that I know. Rebel427 (talk) 10:35, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Ah right, I totally spaced it. I will use that as an example and see if I can figure it out. Still no promises, I'm not the best with this sort of thing. You need a Bug looked at, I'm your guy or basic spelling/grammar errors, I can do that, but stuff like that is almost over my head.

Oh that's awesome, I need a vacation like that! Haven't actually had a vacation in 4 years. But I was moving furniture at work and pulled a muscle in my back, hurts pretty good so I got pain pills from the doctor. I've been pretty loopy for the past few days. Nothing serious, just will hurt for a while.

I did read your request page, it looks pretty good to me. I don't think you're going to have an issue, most people on this site respect you or have become more social because of you. Hell I wouldn't have even dreamed about applying for Patroller if you didn't talk me into it. Even Jspoel is giving his backing and that's rare. Rebel427 (talk) 10:00, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

I noticed that, I'm not quite understanding how it all works. I looked at it and my mind went blank, as if I was trying to do calculus again. I will keep trying to figure it out, I see that most of those pages need to be filled in.

I'll be alright, not the first time this has happened. I just have to remember I'm not a really young man anymore, can't bounce right back after stuff.

Just can't afford a vacation lately, saving for a new car atm, so money is tight.

And as far as I can tell it looks like the City Liners were derived from earlier models of Grey Hounds, I actually refer to them as Grey Hounds when I play the game, that or a mixture of Grey hounds and Continentals.

Also, I voted, I don't think you're going to have an issue with getting it. Rebel427 (talk) 10:40, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Glowing One.

Can I add a cleanup tag to this page? Glowing One (perk)123123abcabc (talk) 11:39, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

I thought the perk was a special perk only giving to glowing ones so that they could irradiate or something like that but they is no information about it so I agree with it going. As for the VDSG for me most of the mistakes are minor but plentiful, but like you said depending on the mistakes we find it may need a lot of cleanup. 123123abcabc (talk) 16:19, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Your right. However look at this page Fallout 3 Official Game Guide. Almost all the mistakes are relevant as they may of confused some of the people who read the book before going on the wiki to look at it's page (as they were giving out misinformation). So far I haven't found to many mistakes like that so far and you probably haven't either. So I can see why you aren't so inclined to add in the mistakes. But if I find any like those I will add them. Thank you for your time.123123abcabc (talk) 16:38, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Morton residence PA

I may have just come upon something very weird,

I chose the Brotherhood ending that should make this unobtainable

This shouldnt be obtainable

RE: Title.

You'll probably see this on Beards page but I just thought I'd tell you anyway. The name had semi-circular brackets instead of square ones so I thought he noticed that and wanted to change it.123123abcabc (talk) 09:51, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

OK then. I think I've done the same thing in the past.123123abcabc (talk) 12:40, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

And my editing could do with a lot of improvement too. But i'm learning which is good.123123abcabc (talk) 12:42, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Title fixing.

And how to insert square brackets in the name? The template {{DISPLAYTITLE}} for some reason does not work for me. Beard 8025411341 (talk) 09:56, May 29, 2017 (UTC)


Remember the guy I was talking about in chat last night? Well I think this is one of his accounts.User:Frisco Kidd.123123abcabc (talk) 12:56, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Gatling laser

I only saw a couple of things that needed to be changed. I'm not sure how the foreign language mirror wikis handle capitalization, though. Great Mara (talk) 01:07, June 1, 2017 (UTC)


I sure am! You shouldn't need it, you qualify by a large distance. Only small issue is that it's only a few weeks past 2 months, but everyone should look past that. Let me know when you'll put it on the forum and I'll add my comment. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:10, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Disappearing from chat

Don't worry about it, I've been dying of tiredness lately too. DisgustingWastelander Speech-DistustingWastelander.png 20:17, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Also, how do I make my talk page icon not appear in the recent edits page every time I sign an article?

Quick reference.

Can you send me one of those quick reference things new people get sent? It's just that I'm using my sandbox more and more often and it's annoying having to go to the main page every time I want to access it. It will also be useful for a new page i'm going to make, Van Buren Cultural References. I'm keeping a note of them in my head whenever I find one but I would like to have them in my sandbox so I don't forget. Also how was Glascow? 123123abcabc (talk) 10:08, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll get that on my profile page.123123abcabc (talk) 10:41, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Adminship request

I've seen it, added my comment. Good luck! Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:06, June 3, 2017 (UTC)


Would this help? 12345678abcdefg. fraps

OK.123123abcabc (talk) 16:03, June 4, 2017 (UTC)


Oh ya, I can take a look at it. As far as I remember when I was messing around with The Harvester, I mainly used it outside of vats. I'll have to do it tomorrow though, not enough time tonight. Thanks for the heads up. Rebel427 (talk) 09:31, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

Alright so as far as I can tell it's not a bug at all, and it was meant to be that way. I was chatting with Richie9999 in chat and he agreed that it's just the special attack critical animation. I did record a video for it, if you need to see what I'm talking about, but it's definitely not a bug. So I reworded the article and removed it. Good spot on that one though, thanks. Rebel427 (talk) 01:43, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Reilly's Rangers

If you browse to Reilly's Rangers (quest) for the you's, try to be creative. Reading 25 times player character makes me kinda cringe. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:34, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

Re:West Everette Estates

I checked every house, and the backyard bunker. I found a lot of safes, but they were all intact, and certainly did not have any silver bars. I reverted the edits. DisgustingWastelander Speech-DistustingWastelander.png 13:17, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

Quest infobox

We have a slight formatting problem with the quest infobox, see for example Deliver_a_laser_pistol_to_Eldridge. The frame of the infobox's image isn't aligned correctly on the right vertical line. Do you know why? Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 14:38, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

I'll keep my fingers crossed! Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 18:05, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

Quest infobox frame problem.png

It's better for sure, but still a tiny bit off. The right and top frame aren't dead-on aligned. I've uploaded the plasma rifle infobox (which is good) and placed it next to the Deliver a laser pistol to Eldridge infobox image. If you zoom in you'll see that they're not the same. If you can change it to the plasma rifle format, it would look just that bit better to the eye. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 21:46, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
It's funny you should mention that, because that would be my next possible question to you :) It's probably difficult, but I'd like to move the icons from all infoboxes to the green header above the infobox, like the Russian wiki has it (we'll also have to change the location icon colors then). I had planned asking Digital Utopia, but maybe you feel up to it? Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:11, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

( I see it, it works with a transparant image; they are the same now. But looking at your Test template, the change of px has reduced the width room for normal images, as you can see for the FOS quest example. There's now a few pixels room at the left and right side. Suppose it's choosing the one or the other? Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 23:11, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

You can use any page there for an example, Diamond City, War Never Changes, Plasma rifle (Fallout 3) (Russian counterparts) to name a few. But needless to say that if you would succeed, we still have to ask the community first as it is affecting the appearance of thousands of pages. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 23:30, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
Yes, good idea for both of us Europeans and go sleep. Tomorrow's another day. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 00:00, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Infobox character

Taking a look at all the options, I almost wouldn't even use that parameter. It's totally obvious what they would be, except maybe for the synths, that has some variety. Leave the parameter for what it is, it's ok this way. Don't make a project of adding them, except maybe the synths and children. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:25, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Admin Request

Term to vote for your adminship request has passed. Gunny has to decide if you pass or not, because he's the only bc that hasn't voted for your request. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:51, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations on your promotion! Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 20:10, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Richie quotation.

I just checked and your right. But I have fixed it for you. Sorry.123123abcabc (talk) 18:03, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

(Because that's his reply to a successful speech check to pose as a fake inspector.)123123abcabc (talk) 18:05, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Our latest Newbie Admin!

GIFT Pink backpack.jpg
You have been given A Pink Backpack.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
This was passed down from Tocino to Follower to Paladin to Richie to Jasper to Peace to me. I now pass this on to you as our new junior admin. Jackiboy Logo.png (talk) 20:34, June 10, 2017 (UTC)
Congratulations! I hereby welcome our newest Newbie admin! Along with the infamous pink backpack. Don't mind the ticking noise inside, even though it sounds like a time bomb. just promise me one thing, Don't... Look... Inside... It holds secrets none of us would like to know. May the pink backback serve you well! Jackiboy Logo.png (talk) 20:34, June 10, 2017 (UTC)


I can actually confirm three of those right now for the PS4 as well, but I will look into another. The last one, I like to enter VATS when nothing is around just to freeze the game and look at everything.

Also congrats on Admin! I told you you wouldn't have a problem getting it. Rebel427 (talk) 21:01, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

I was unable to get the results I hoped for with the moving platform thing, and VATS seems to target Radscorpions just fine on PS4. So I confirmed the three I've experienced, doubled checked the last one to make sure, you can still turn on VATS and look around in freeze frame when there are no enemies near. I guess those are better than none, I would love to find someone who plays on Xbox to start testing them, seems to be a lot of issues on that console. Rebel427 (talk) 10:34, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Oh it's alright, I can see that you've been really busy. I'll look into it, where exactly did you see the glitch/bug at inside the Yangtze? And how far along where you during the quest, or did it happen afterwards? Details are really helpful if I hope to recreate it. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 07:13, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hey your edit count is still way way higher than mine, I still miss simple things that I shouldn't, then get a notification saying that Jspoel has fixed it. But alright, just let me know where you ran into it, so I can check the same thing on an alt or early save. I remember I did that quest at level 20 something on my first character, never got the named sword. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 02:47, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

Haven't heard back from you, just figure you're pretty busy. Congrats on breaking into the Top 20 Editors! Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 12:00, June 18, 2017 (UTC)

Haven't gotten a reply about this in a while, did you still want me to check into it? I created another fresh character to do a couple bug tests, this was one of them. I have so far been unsuccessful in seeing this glitch on my other characters. Just let me know. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 20:24, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Bloody Hell

They'll promote anybody these days, huh? ;P Seriously, congrats and great job, you well deserve it. Spot on, my friend. StormRider71 (talk) 01:48, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

  • Nah, you are clearly talented. I can edit well enough, but I barely know anything about doing the tables, info boxes, and whatnot. You've been doing an outstanding job. StormRider71 (talk) 02:43, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, Sakar

I was on vacation, and wasn't around. Congradulations, man!

Sure, I can give you some pointers. However, the duties of a Chat Moderator and Discussion Moderator are different. My powers work in the chat. But, I'm not suppose to use them in chat. Plus, we have access to the admin toolkit. I don't think Chat Moderators do. I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of it. I could still try and give you advice. I just might not be the best person for it.

Oh, and I'm back from my vacation and plan to get those editing lessons from you.

SSJ3 Rusticus (talk) 04:06, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Chat moderators don't, but admins do and he is one of them now, SSJ3. Congrats btw Saka ------Cassie I can see you. 09:18, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, my fault! I made sure I checked your account and saw "chat moderator". Must not have changed when i checked. Id be happy to help! SSJ3 Rusticus (talk) 17:11, June 11, 2017 (UTC)


Subheaders for item and consumables pages look ok to me. I'm not sure about those drops in Fallout Shelter, we don't have definitions for it. Get as close as you can, probably random outfit/weapons/recipe best we can do from what I see (don't play the game myself). Looking at your sandbox, I realize that if you move the item icons from the older games to the green header, you probably won't see them that well anymore. Is it possible to make both options possible? Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:29, June 12, 2017 (UTC)


Looks good to me now, the new wordmark. You created a lightdark outline, which makes it readable when editing I think. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 07:34, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Is this right?

Hi. Before the advent of quests are these outfits really was only possible to manufacture in the workshop. Here they are marked with Repair. Now you can get some in quests. Beard 8025411341 (talk) 17:58, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I now do not have the opportunity to pay attention to the wiki. Maybe it will appear next week. Beard 8025411341 (talk) 06:19, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

My Inactivity

I'm going to be in-active due to me leaving for the Army, sorry for not saying anything sooner. Congratulations on becoming admin and I wish you luck. Dr. Klein (talk) 18:30, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Multiple upload

I don't see what went wrong with the upload other than what appears to be you naming the files wrong and then renaming them afterwards (prep to high). Every file uploads in line, you just need some patience if you upload a 20 at a time. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 23:51, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe go to 10 or 5 uploads at a time. Your files are very large, it takes very long to upload them all at one go, it may become glitched at such a large size. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 00:23, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
You have some oversights on pages you change the "you" to "pc", I just updated Searching for Cheryl for it. Doublecheck (or were you planning to?). A note, I seem to remember from the past we allowed the you's on quest pages. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 00:28, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Nuka Jam

As a matter of policy I never do Clemency. However I got an apology email, so your thoughts and his email is enough to melt my ice heart and I've undone the ban. Agent c (talk) 00:29, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, let me justify myself here. When I posted that, I assumed that that section was fan created Vaults because it was "Non-Canon". I wrote it out and posted it, but when I read the other vaults there, I realized my mistake and deleted it. It wasn't vandalism or trolling, just a misunderstanding.

Thank you for doing your job, and I'll be sure to be more careful next time.


It's possible to move them to appear first in that top list, but I don't want to do that. You'd have to physically move those two categories to above the Infobox incomplete template. That's because the rest of the categories are generated by several templates and they are all on the page before the concluding unmarked locations and GAG buildings categories at the bottom of the page. I don't see a way to adapt those templates in a way they are moved to the back. We'll just have to live with how it is I think. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:29, June 15, 2017 (UTC)


You keep making mistakes on pages where you change you's on pages into other text. I found a few on Tobar making the sentence incorrect. These changes are getting a bit on my nerves to be honest. Better leave them as they are in my opinion, this is not really helping. I'd rather see you work on the dialogues 10 ten times over, I'll ask Digital Utopia if he has time for them (allow a few days response time), then perhaps you could start working on those if he doesn't have time. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 14:30, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

(Please doublecheck the pages you changed today). Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 14:32, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

multiple accounts

Hey Saka.

Just to let you know for App only users, disclosure on their in-app bio is enough. Might be best to link to their talk page if using it as they might not know about. Agent c (talk) 14:36, June 17, 2017 (UTC)


I'm sorry for my actions the past few days and I have changed my profile pic as you said to have me do. I was feeling a little anyoyed because i have had that icon ever since I joind the wiki, but if I have to change it, so be it

Again, I have taken the proper actions disclosed in the p.m you sent and I'm awaiting my account to be unblocked.


Xbox tester

I sent a message over to SSJ3 Rusticus, thanks for the heads up. Hopefully that will interest him, because I would like to get those pesky Xbox bugs removed or verified.

Also, don't sweat it. I get waves of depression sometimes, it happens to most of us. Just whenever you have the time to double check, then I can see if it exists on PS4 as well. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 01:19, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Didn't realize you were still on, we ended up making virtually the same edit to the Phyllis Daily page. Good to double patrol edits I guess. Also who was the person at number 19 that you didn't have a good experience with? Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 01:25, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Ya that would be nice if he wants to sign up with the project. I'm cooking dinner right now for my dad, drinking some beer. Fathers day here so I'm probably going to head out. It's hot as hell here too, not a fan of the heat. Have a better night though. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 01:41, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Re: South Boston

I see, I thought the images for the camp was from the far west section of South Boston, now when I look at them, I see that they are exterior images, my mistake. I moved them because having images of the Dorchester Heights monument on the South Boston High School page just makes the gallery messy and incoherent, same goes for the other ones I moved like roads, and shacks. As mentioned, my mistake. I had no idea that they were from the exterior. Thanks for letting me know, I'll move them! Best regards Jackiboy Logo.png (talk) 13:03, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

Good, will make it much easier when it comes to multiple edits that are the same, like for example add the |sound= to all pages using the quotations template. I've moved some of the images over to the South Boston High School page again. I also added separate sections, one for exterior and another one for the interior, should make things more organised. Jackiboy Logo.png (talk) 13:12, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Oxford Commas

Well 1) I've already had this convo before so clearly it's someone deciding not to bring it up to me personally yet again and instead have decided to throw internet community etiquette out the window. Not to mention I have it clear on my page to come to me about it, or at least read the edit note/reasoning. 2) generally if it's a smaller list where it's made clear I don't go in and edit just for that. Anyone looking at my activity and realizing I literally just go down a page would be able to see which ones I hopped over because it really wasn't worth the edit. Usually unless I was already editing for something else I'll throw it in for clarity otherwise there's the example of a disaster of an edit a while back where it honestly would have looked like it was just sub-types of an enemy when that wasn't at all what was happening.

But. Thanks. I think. Most of my edits recently have been more in the vein of missed words or the wrong words, with an occasional "wow what happened here with the tenses". Which is why edit history is important before people gripe about it when it really shouldn't bother them that much unless they are taking it personally. Shaneforwaxsig.pngShane for Wax (Speak back) 23:26, June 21, 2017 (UTC)

Well, like I said on my page, if there are specific ones to look at then I will. I went through the FO3 quests and such and fixed up what I could when it came to tenses. New Vegas however is my special case given it gets more attention than FO3 does so generally unless someone comes to me about specific pages I leave it alone. Like my Projects area states, I'm currently going thru the original trilogy of 1, 2, and Tactics.

What's funny for me is it takes more energy to go in, see what I changed, and revert it than it ever did for me to do the edit itself. So it has to be someone specifically seeing what the edit note was and deciding to revert it for whatever reason they might have. Considering I often see no edit note to reverts if I do manage to go and see if someone came behind me it seems more like a grudge than anything else. But it's small kine. I just hope they realize every time I see a spite revert it lowers my desire to continue which is generally when I then flounce off to the Elder Scrolls wikia or just go and do other stuff like playing my games themselves.

Either way right now I've been rather amused by some of the older pages, especially ones that have a connection to the newer games that came out, having such egregious errors. And it tickles me when I see nobody seems to care about the readability of Bugs. Shaneforwaxsig.pngShane for Wax (Speak back) 08:22, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

High Ground

Alright I'll see what I can find. That seems to me like an objective to go to Far Harbor (location) and kill some Brotherhood soldiers, but the person didn't start the quest chain for Far Harbor yet. The only problem with this one is It will take me a little time. I had to delete my saves for the 4 endings due to the PS4 only supporting limited save files for Fallout 4. So I have to side with the Railroad and follow the questline until it's finished. I've already been at this for 4 hours, wasting my day off on it. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 01:24, June 22, 2017 (UTC)

I've actually already had Cleansing the Commonwealth give me a quest to go to Far Harbor, but since I completed the DLC already on that character I couldn't confirm that it happens before the Questline is started. I spent 9 hours yesterday redoing the Railroad questline as well as doing some High Ground quests for PAM and wasn't able to receive the one we're looking for. I did get a High Ground quest Icon for Nuka World to pop up, so I'm fairly certain at this point that it's not a bug, PAM is just trying to send you to Far Harbor. I will keep trying though. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 02:10, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

13 hours spent, still haven't gotten this quest to pop up from me, I keep trying to reset PAM too since it's a random location that she sends you to. So far one of the most time consuming things I've looked at. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 03:13, June 24, 2017 (UTC)
After 17 hours, I am 100% positive that it is not a bug, it is just PAM sending you to Far Harbor before you have started the questline for it. She has sent me to Nuka-Galaxy Twice for the Variable Removal quest, as well as Carrington sending me to Aldersea Day Spa for a Lost Soul quest. I'm not going to change the page, I'm going to keep trying, but I'm certain that that is the correct conclusion. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 02:22, June 25, 2017 (UTC)
Well it is a lot better than repeating the exact same thing over and over. But I wouldn't call it enjoyable since I'm not the biggest fan of the Railroad, I mean they're better than the Institute, but still pretty annoying. I was able to confirm something else that needed it, so it's not a complete waste. Going to get burnt out soon enough though. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 02:39, June 25, 2017 (UTC)
24 hours spent, a full day trying to get this quest to pop up, and I haven't yet. PAM has sent me to Far Harbor for another quest, so I'm 100% certain at this point that it's as we suspected. I would remove the bug from the High Ground page, and put a note on the P.A.M. page saying that she will sometimes send you to Far Harbor and Nuka-World prior to their respective questlines being started. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 11:39, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

I noticed you didn't add or remove anything to the High Ground or P.A.M. page, not that you don't edit enough as is, so I went ahead and did it. That was by far the worst one to test yet, so many radiant quests. I will likely never do another Railroad quest again, unless it's for a bug. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 11:42, July 2, 2017 (UTC)


Hey Sakaratte. Dang, you really went ham on those fallout shelter things, huh? Anyway, I've been trying to get more into editing recently. I think I've figured most of it out, but I'm still not sure about some of it. Think you could help me out? You seem to know a lot about this stuff. Thanks. I've seen the need help editing, I've read through it and watched the video, but I'm not 100%. Thanks for all of your contributions on the wiki.The Courier NCR for life (talk) 21:46, June 23, 2017 (UTC) The Courier NCR for life

DM request

Pretty good job you did on getting that DM request set up right and adding it to community messages. You're getting the hang of this admin stuff. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 21:48, June 23, 2017 (UTC)


Can you give me instructions in detail on how you automate the process of creating dialogue files? You earlier told how you do it here. I have Excel and Access, or do I need more? I'd like to try it myself and see how it works. Digital Utopia doesn't know when he'll have time, and I probably want to make a headstart with the major characters anyway, so visitors can see them appear during summer. I think although some dialogue isn't said by the concerning character or to the character as Digital points out, it's always related and also, the dialogue before and dialogue after can have several characters, even sometimes the character themself again. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:42, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

I've taken an first look at it, not entirely sure if I can get it to work, requires some more experimenting. If I have questions I'll let you know. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:24, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

SARGE Sentry Bot Aggression status

Hello, i saw you added to the Sarge article that he is "Unaggressive (confirmed in CK)" what is "CK" and what does "unaggressive" means in this case?

Sounds very strage to me, but must be because i dont know what CK means. thank you in advance! --Holakc (talk) 22:21, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

Something happened on the Waking Cloud page with the rotating quotations. Can you fix it? Thanks.123123abcabc (talk) 12:12, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

3rd person

Heheh, I should have realized player character is a third person pronoun. It's good you're watching over me. DisgustingWastelander Speech-DistustingWastelander.png 13:23, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

Floater image

I just wanted to clarify something about the floater image, previously the image was an image 2 not a footer. When it was an image 2 it was about 6x as large as it is now. I never knew that moving something to a footer automatically changes its size. Thank you.123123abcabc (talk) 18:10, June 25, 2017 (UTC)


Dialogue convert Access.jpg

I've given it a try, but I'm stuck at the moment and not sure if I've got everything right up till now, see the image to the right. You've lost me when you explain how to run the script. What dialogue file needs deleting, what is the new dialogue and how do I run the query. First check the image, may have made mistake there already. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:08, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

I'm making progress, still not quite there yet. I've been thinking, we could merge script notes and response text as you see it in the FNV dialogues like FortCaesar.txt. As an example, DesdemonaGreetScene in Desdemona.txt would become {Stern} Some advice, we get precious few opportunities to rescue synths. Priority one is always their safety.. Saves some space, making a bit more room for other columns. Is that something you can adjust? And I'd like a linkable counter. In the FNV dialogues it's the last column, but I'd to move it being the first column. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 14:41, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

The script should be italic, can you change that? Also, if there is no script, it still shows {}, or sometimes just }. Or I've also seen script notes without a starting {. If there is no script, it should be blank, and immediately start with the response text. And I've seen you merge some rows that have the same scene, but haven't done that for all rows (yet?) Is that something you could change too? Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:51, June 26, 2017 (UTC)
It looks great, really! More professional appearance with every change. I'm not sure what you want with the topic column/form id numbers though, they're not interesting for the readers. You want DU to replace them with the actual topic, how do you mean that? Did you also manage to automate the rowspans? Anyway, great work, I hope I can assist you to get them on our pages (still having some problems creating them, should be even more complex now). Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 21:41, June 26, 2017 (UTC)
I'm happy with the result, you can go ahead. Maybe tomorrow you can give me the changed procedure for the dialogues, I'll try to help. Best to do the major characters first and the companions. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:04, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

( Right, the dialogue already on the wiki are broken now, fix those first. As for the Sole Survivor, split their dialogue in two pages, maybe more. If you look at older games, we've done it before, for example Amata and some other in Vault 101. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:21, June 26, 2017 (UTC)


Smith (Fallout Tactics) can you fix him too? Thanks123123abcabc (talk) 17:03, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

hey the live chat doesn't work for me, whats wrong with it? SheasonFillyWiddler (talk) 14:33, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

hey thanks for the info, I guess the IP of the computers at my job corps are blocked. Im glad to actually hear from someone on this forum, fallout is by far my favorite game series and its great to be able to share it with people!


Can you give me the updated script? I think I'm not going to do the rows and sections yet though because it's taking so much time. I see you working on X6-88 and it seemed to take hours doing it in detail. Perhaps we could first do them halfway (so without rows and sections yet) so we can make faster progress. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:26, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Dialogue convert Access script.jpg

I'm getting a syntax error on the script. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:54, June 27, 2017 (UTC)
Noticed Sheet1 is now named Sheet1DB. Removing the DB didn't help though, still a syntax error. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:57, June 27, 2017 (UTC)
DB removed, now it's saving. We'll give it another go. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:02, June 27, 2017 (UTC)
I created the dialogue for Porter. First edit was still with the tabs, and the quest column, so you or me can later on copy it to Excel/Access again to do the sections and work the rows. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 19:35, June 27, 2017 (UTC)


Hi Sakaratte! I was wondering if you could help me find what I'm looking for. I am trying to get into storyboard creation semi-professionally and I've been looking for modders and creators in need of someone like me. I don't charge for my work currently, I just want to get my name out there. I love seeing ideas come to life! Do you think you could help? SheasonFillyWiddler (talk) 19:30, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

I feel more like splitting SCENE in half. It's a very wide column, and would save a lot of space. As an example, DLC04COMGage_06_RepeatInfatuationToAdmiration split in half creates plenty of space. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 19:59, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Goodsprings general store

I'm not sure exactly when the conversion happened, but the general store isn't running and there's a cafe in its place now. It connects to the pioneer saloon as a single business for food and drinks these days. Here's a picture I took when visiting earlier this year.

User talk Ghost Town Cafe.jpg


I'm a bit of a nitpicker, but I'd like the underscores to stay if they don't interfere with the width. It's how they are generated. Sometimes you'll have to even split them manually if the scene is all characters without any underscores or only at the very end, like I did with Desdemona. And I've seen a three way split which is one split too much. Best to do it manually, it's not that many. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 21:41, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

I've done a few dialogues where I manually added section and merged the scene rows. It's doable but still does take some time, especially with the rows counting etc. Are you able to (semi?) automate this? Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 13:16, June 28, 2017 (UTC)
Another thing, before you save a dialogue, can you keep the tabs in included, save it, and after that remove them and save it again? I've done it with my dialogues. That way we can still copy them to Excel with every column intact and easily work the dialogue if need be. And as for the sections, eventually I think we can rename the section headers to the quest name. But that can be of later concern. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 13:23, June 28, 2017 (UTC)
If you don't mind, please add a save with the tabs, then the next save without them. It's more convenient for future changes. I see you changed the policestation section from Rhys' dialogue again, which is slightly better. Adding a 2 row code manually 20 times was taking too much time and I was thinking to merge them. But (if you can automate it) yours is better. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 14:32, June 28, 2017 (UTC)
If you have a script for automating sections/rows let me know. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 14:33, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

( I'm curious to see what you come up with! All in your own good time of course. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:34, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Arthur's Request

Hey Sakar,

I was checking on Arthur's DM request. I saw you cast your "no" vote and the reason why. I have since talked to Arthur. He didn't think adding a signature for a user's vote was that big of a deal. He's remorseful about it now. I wanted to help ease his mind and make sure his entire request isn't in jeopardy. To be clear, I'm not asking you to change your vote. Your vote is your vote. Nor am I defending his actions. I just didn't want his request to get cancled over a lapse in judgement. I mean, you said it yourself. It was well intentioned.

Oh, and I'm still going to be inactive for a bit. I was looking over the discussions to see how everything is going. I happen to lock a post. Just a heads up. I didn't want to send mixed messages.

Thanks for your time!

SSJ3 Rusticus (talk) 16:04, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Vote Tampering

Hi, just wanted to clear something up. When I signed MattM17's post, I was just trying to help him with the slightly complex editing system. It was not my intention to appear to be forging signatures, only to ensure that his was properly signed. I'm sorry if this appears as a lapse in judgement, but I promise I had no ill intention.

--ArthurMaxson (talk) 18:56, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Dialogue instructions

Dialogue convert instructions.jpg

Thanks for the detailed instructions, I still quite can't get it to work though. What I've done fill the Excel file with data, save and close it. Then I went to the database and created the sheet1DB file. The Excel file had still your name tied to it, so had to delete it and reconfigure that, got it working I think. Then I got into problems with the Converting dialogue part instructions. Where is the "From the database select import dialogue" option? It's followed by two Fallout 4 dialogue extracting tables, which I can't seem to find. That's where I got stuck. I need a little bit more help here. You and Jacki make great progress by the way, well done. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:09, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

You mean review processed raw data brings up those two Fallout 4 dialogue screens? No screens are brought up on my end. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:43, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Dialogue convert instructions2.jpg

You mean the import complete button? I have messages on all buttons except the review processed data. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 22:57, June 30, 2017 (UTC)
I think I got it going now, finally getting that Fallout 4 dialogue screen. Took some good fiddling with the view button. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 23:53, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Quest columns dialogue.jpg

Is it possible to create a quest column where the quest name is displayed for the related scenes? I've uploaded an example. Piper has 8 scenes in AO Companion Bar but you can't really see where it ends. With the quest name displayed you can see that, and also where the new section starts (AO Companion LoiterSearch). Next to that, you'll know the name of the quest which to put above each section (cut and paste and you don't even have to type it). Later on you can delete that quest column. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 00:21, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I semi-solved it. I can insert the quest column from Piper's original dialogue to the converted dialogue! Should work, just done it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 00:28, July 1, 2017 (UTC)


Making good progress on the dialogue files today. I've been thinking, we now have all those Creation Kit quest codes for the section headers. Once we have everything up, you think you could create a bot script in which all CK quest codes be replaced with the proper quest names? That way we only have to input them once. So for example replace ==BOS101== by ==Call to Arms== etc. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:56, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Chat mod

The chat is currently without a moderator (except for Gunny, but he's not actually there). Would this be the right time to request temporary rights? DisgustingWastelander Speech-DistustingWastelander.png 14:19, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Admin talk blog

Please see User blog:The Gunny/Admin talk - Discussions moderation for a few site wide changes wikia has made as well as some details on discussions moderating. I will be opening a discussions topic in the next day or so with the intent to better introduce all of our site moderation team to the users there (most of them have no idea who most of us are). When that topic goes live, I will leave another talk page message for you asking that you navigate to the topic to introduce yourself and interact a bit with users there. I feel this is very important and a problem we need to fix. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons.png 16:43, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

I plan on making that discussions topic tomorrow finally, around noonish my time. I plan on introducing the rest of the admin/mod team who the discussions users don't know very well. I am going to do it in a kinda AMA format, and I'll start by explaining who I am and what I do here. I would really appreciate it if any admins/mods who don't currently spend a lot of time there to chime in. I really feel this is important.  The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons.png 01:32, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Bunker Hill

I will look into it, I just redid that quest along the Railroad questline and ran into a couple, so I could verify those. Honestly just a little burnt out right now, might take me a few days or longer to verify more than the ones I already know. Rebel427 ~ I'll be your huckleberry 02:31, July 3, 2017 (UTC)


Hello Sakaratte I assume you have read my request for moderator and I was hoping you would endorse me. I hope you at least consider this proposal. Sincerely

Van Graff ThugVan Graff Thug (talk) 08:27, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, Sakar

I'm doing alright. Should be coming back online in a week or two. Especially since a lot seems to be changing in my absence. Any news I should know about? I caught a little bit of what Gunny said. I wasn't around to talk about any if it. Some type of rule change? I know I've been gone. I still somewhat think of the Discussions as my dominion. I would've liked to be a part of such talks.

Anyway, I'm sure it was nothing substantial.

Oh, and I saw Gunny left a message on my talk page about the rest of the staff coming over to the Discussions for some type of meet and greet. I'll try to be online for that.

I'll talk to you later, Peace!

SSJ3 Rusticus (talk) 16:56, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Manta Man

How did you get Manta Man's dialogue? From a joined file I think. I believe there is more dialogue that I don't see in your text file, some missing MS04 and MS04B. Also wondering about the sorting on the Topic column. Yesterday I had to inverse sort a holotape dialogue to read it top down, and now I see a similar thing in the joined Manta-Man file (001236C7 followed by 001236C6 etc.) Worth another look. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 13:16, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Same thing for Meg and Mikey (Fallout 4). Had to reverse sort them on Topic. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 13:57, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Exemplar's T-60c

Hey, I am unable to find the Exemplar's T-60c's ID in the Creation Kit. Would you mind having a look tomorrow? DisgustingWastelander (talk) 01:15, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

I did not see you message before now. Thank you for that. I'll see if I can get a good image of the armor. DisgustingWastelander (talk) 03:51, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Awareness perk edit

Yeah, no worries, Sak. It just irks me that people won't read the guidelines even after its explained and linked to them. Or at the very least sent a message explaining their position. I honestly don't know 100% if his edit was right, but Mara and another longtime user has already reverted it twice and once again after I reverted it. He's usually very spot on about these things, so I felt comfortable with my rollback. But yeah, I'll look into it and see if I can put an explaintion on the talk page so maybe that user will see it. StormRider71 (talk) 17:42, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

It was reverted due to quality. And furthermore, their argument being 'look it up' doesn't gor far in my book. They made no effort to substantiate it. Great Mara (talk) 19:57, July 9, 2017 (UTC)


I'm just going to say this flat out, I am getting tired of this ridiculous idea that I be required to censor myself on a mature rated wiki. If someone cannot handle language on a wiki concerning this game's subject matter then that's their problem. I am not working a service job or being paid for my time spend reviewing edits here. Nor am I an actual admin in any capacity. I check edits and fix any screw ups I find. That's it. Great Mara (talk) 08:24, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Misfit's frag grenades

Hi, are my edits too long or too verbose / info laden? would appreciate some helpful feedback :)


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