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Best regards, Skire (talk) 05:12, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Template FN FAL Edit

Out of curiosity, any particular reason as to why you created a template page for the FN FAL? Richie9999 (talk) 22:41, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

There are a few variants of the weapon, so I was thinking that a common template would be useful if and when a Background section was added to those articles. --Malebiped (talk) 06:19, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

The way to go about doing that would be to edit the FN FAL page with the universal in game background info and then transclude that section to the various other articles, not through the use of a template page. Richie9999 (talk) 06:26, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was looking for help doing when I clicked on the hyperlink for "transclude". I was thrown into a page explaining templates, so I assumed that all transcluded sections of text come from a template page somewhere. --Malebiped (talk) 06:50, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not able to transclude stuff yet. Tried it just now, with no success. I updated all the FN FAL articles with the background section from the template (in some cases other stuff too), which worked fine.--Malebiped (talk) 10:09, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Content for weapons articles should be specific to the game the weapon is from, as such having information about the FAL from Fallout Tactics included in the article for Fallout 2's FAL is improper. Additionally, can you point to an in-game source showing the lack of distinction between a Battle Rifle and an Assault Rifle (because as it stands now it appears to be speculation)? Richie9999 (talk) 12:54, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

( You can see on the Assault rifle page how transclusion works, with <section begin="Background" /> and <section end="Background" />. For your FN FAL page, use the FN FAL page (redirects to FN FAL (Fallout 2), you can click on the link at the top to fix it), create an overview (see the {{Gamearticlelist}} example on the assault rifle page) and put your background inbetween these codes. On the specific game pages use:

{{Transcluded|FN FAL}}
{{transcludesection|FN FAL|Background|options=nointro}}

which reads the background from the overview page. You don't have to use the template anymore. A nice challenge. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:02, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Richie: there's no in-game source. The Wikipedia link to Battle Rifle explains that the modern semantic opposition between "battle rifle" and "assault rifle" to distinguish between full-caliber and intermediate-caliber selective-fire rifles, did not arise until the late 1990s and is still a "neologism" (not fully established). The in-game description of the FN FAL calls it an "assault weapon". I thought that might seem weird in light of the real-world FN FAL's definition as a "battle rifle". That is why I discussed the terminology in the background template, trying to explain that the latter term was not yet used in reference to this kind of weapons when the game was being made.

Im bound to have a busy Thursday and Saturday but should be able to sort out the transclusion thing this weekend at the latest.--Malebiped (talk) 19:38, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Footnote Edit

We don't have Footnote sections and your using the referencing coding, which is not how it is used. Paladin117>>iff bored; 21:30, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

FN FAL Edit

Howdy, I just wanted to give you a heads-up. The FN FAL page was turned into a disambiguation page, as is dictated by policy and the background section that was transcluded was manually added to each of the FAL variants respective pages, after the removal of the irrelevant content, such as the difference between an assault rifle and battle rifle not being defined, as well as the comparison between the FO2 FALs and the Tactics FAL. Additionally, speculation was removed as the background section is grounded in the lore of the fallout universe, saying that the FAL was the most widely used weapon by NATO forces during the cold war was speculation as there is no in-universe source for this. Richie9999 (talk) 01:10, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

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