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VicEdit

Hello my friend ;)

Vic is not a merchant of Arroyo. The section merchant in the infobox refers of merchants of the location in-game, not trade with them. Have a nice day and see you soon on The Vault! Itachou [~talk~] 15:05, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pure human Edit

Please don't insert "pure" into the races of vault dwellers, Enclave members, etc. Simply "human" will suffice. Kastera (talk) 04:17, July 9, 2011 (UTC) That is correct. There are no pure humans in the Fallout world, it's a baseless claim made by the Enclave. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 06:50, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

It not really fair for them to tell you to stop entirely, it is a topic of hot debate, with Itachou (the first guy to talk to you) as the avant-garde of the opposing view. But, for now at least, it would be a safe bet to stay out of it so as not to annoy multiple admins. Just some friendly advice, TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 17:42, July 11, 2011 (UTC).

NCR Mechanised Division Edit

I'm just doing my job. The page consisted of a sentence of what appears to be speculative and rumour based information without any cited sources, and I didn't memorise the Fallout Bible off by heart so it isn't a surprise I deleted it. However, even with the Fallout Bible as a source I'd still be wary about creating the page. There isn't very much information to go on at all and Avellone himself is stating that the information is rumour based (in-universe). --233345-cartman1 tinyUser Avatar talk 09:27, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I take that last in-universe point back, I just reread the first statement. Also, please sign your posts. --233345-cartman1 tinyUser Avatar talk 09:30, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
I already acknowledged that it wasn't just a rumour. --233345-cartman1 tinyUser Avatar talk 10:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

CyborgEdit

If you want to create a navbox, you need to add Template in front of the article name. If you want, I could rename it for you. Good work on those quest pages by the way with the images. JspoelJspoel Vault Boy 12:22, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

  • Ok, you've got it already fixed I see.

FO1 image Edit

Hello my friend ;)

Please when you make a image from a screen, don't show your character on it, it's better for the quality and have a more neutral view of the situation =). Nice day and keep up the good works! Itachou [~talk~] 14:15, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Stop the RadscorpionsEdit

I have lightened your image, it was too dark. I have used auto-contrast for it in Photoshop. Otherwise, good work. JspoelJspoel Vault Boy 14:27, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the water pump quest page Edit

I redirected it to the correctly-named article instead of deleting it. --Kris User Hola 20:36, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Trapper's shack articles Edit

Please make an article for the trapper's shack is Fallout 2. Also, you didn't have to recreate the Trapper's shack in Point Lookout article. All you had to do was rename the existing one. Almighty Higgey

How to rename an article Edit

At the top of every article there is a small box called "Edit" click on it and you will be given an option to rename the article you are viewing. Hope this helps. Almighty Higgey.

Mapper Edit

Nigdy nie używałem mappera, sorry. Ausir(talk) @fandom 08:28, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Canyon tent Edit

I do not think that it deserves it's own page, let an admin determine that. In the mean time, the deletion tag stays, as per Wiki policy. Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 12:33, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hello my friend ;)
I Agree with Scar, is not a separated location. Itachou [~talk~] 12:54, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

All the images you have uploaded can be put in the Arroyo page otherwise =). Itachou [~talk~] 12:57, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

The page was created in 2009, the Vault haven't not a real policy about that. Ausir can make mistakes, like any editors or admins here.
Sorry but the Nipton house is a separated location and those of Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics and some of Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel are not separated locations, so all information about them should be put in the proper location page. People wanted to find the loot of the Hakunin tent for exemple doesn't go to the "Hakunin tent page" but in Arroyo page.
Some people doesn't have played all Fallout games (especially the old) and therefore sometimes don't know how to react. Nothing personal my friend, it's just the policy here =). Keep up the good works, I see your works in the Arroyo and Klamath page for the loot, great job ;)! Itachou [~talk~] 13:26, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I delete some page of Klamath that you have created that doesn't need its own page. For created a location page for FO1, FO2, FOT and FOBOS, the location need to be a separated location or a service location (bar, store etc.) if not, the page doesn't need its own page =). Itachou [~talk~] 13:36, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hehe no problem my friend! And for the image name, see in your contribution =). Ha also you want the image of the Klamath location have deleted? If yes I can put the images in your talk page right now, tell me ;). Itachou [~talk~] 13:52, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

For the sections image, it's the guidelines created by me and Ghost and approved by Ausir. May be you can add the loot infobox without any problem with another mean, I take a look =). Itachou [~talk~] 13:56, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I improved the all, I think it's good now for the loot infobox ;). Itachou [~talk~] 14:00, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

GannonEdit

Why remove the entire endings section?--Gothemasticator 15:06, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

  • i was thinking the same thing. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 15:08, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't simply remove it, since it is germane information pertaining to the subject of the article. However, you have a point about redundancy, especially since the endings page is so well formatted. It would probably be a good move to transclude the endings section instead. And, of course, to do that for all the New Vegas companion pages for consistency. Up for the task?--Gothemasticator 15:17, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
If you are up for it, Gannons page has now been transcluded, so you can use that as an example of how to do it. Also, further info on how to transclude can be found here, {{transcludesection}}. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 15:33, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! That's a big improvement to the companion pages.--Gothemasticator 15:41, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

You are doing a great job. Just a few pointers, when transcluding from 2 different pages (i.e. Rex (Fallout: New Vegas), please use the {{Transcluded}} above each transcluded section. This is there for editors who are not so clued up to how transcludesection works, so they know where the info is being transcluded from and help them to edit those sections if they need to. The other thing, if you are transcluding from 2 different tables on the same page (i.e. Rose of Sharon Cassidy), you can place the section tags inside the tables to create one continuous table, instead of 2 seperate one, on the page that is transcluding the info. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 16:05, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't mean to step on any toes, just like you, I like to check to make sure things arnt spoiled either =D User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 16:14, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

JainEdit

I don't understand this post, Jain has not been edited for a long while, don't see images missing. And 'wiki/Ranger removes screens like here'? Clarify plz. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:42, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

  • Hey, that is strange indeed. I'm having no problems. Maybe try a different browser? I'm using IE9. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:43, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

BladesEdit

Thanks for the help on the Blades pre-war company page. I'm not that familiar with the older Fallout games. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:22, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Image sizeEdit

I've asked Porter about it. First the page infoboxes will be updated, the documentation will follow at a later stage. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:06, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re:KeelyEdit

You're correct, removed the tag. Thing is my screen isn't of top-notch quality, and that damn mouth is really thin, and I think it's actually actively trying to hide... <.< Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

ImagesEdit

But those are the only images on Google for those terminals, and there isn't any without HUD. Undead Hat 12:08, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

InfoboxEdit

You can use "@hide" instead of "empty" to hide the button. I'd only do that if it's really not possible to find an image for that faction though; otherwise it kind of defeats the purpose of the upload button :) -- Porter21 (talk) 21:28, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Raiders locationsEdit

I'd like to ask if I may take the "Infobox incomplete" tag down from the Raider (Fallout 3) page. When I was working on it earlier, there was a list that was longer than your arm on every location you could find a raider, so I removed the insignificant places (as shown in the page history). The list was so long that it drew focus away from the main article, so I removed some of them, since they were a tad too minor for my liking. --Kastera (talk) 22:03, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

(Mariposa) super mutantEdit

Hello. You've changed the race of several characters from Super mutant to Mariposa super mutant. As you can see at the list of races super mutants are enlisted as one race. So why do you think we need such level of detail when we speak about races? Or is there some project I don't know about? veryblackraven 23:31, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Just been looking at this and wondering how you are determining if they are first gen or second gen for affiliations as well. As for Sean, I am not to familiar with them to be able to answer that. Better to ask people like Ausir or Tag. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 17:55, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
They are first generation Mariposa mutants (and besides, second generation mutants are also from Mariposa, as they were created when Enclave discovered Mariposa). Tactics takes place before Enclave's excavation of Mariposa, though, so they are all definitely 1st generation Mariposa mutants. Ausir(talk) 07:44, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Sean Edit

To zależy. Najpierw należy potwierdzić, czy znajdujemy Seana w Fallout 1 bez modów czy nie. Osobiście wrzuciłbym, ale nie tyle do chronologii co do artykułu o Vault 13 i Taliusa. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 08:18, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Navarro Edit

No problem, thanks for adding more credible information, you rock! :] --Felix BrehhUser Avatar talk 18:40, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

EnclaveEdit

I've changed the protection level and you should be able to edit it now. Thanks for all your work on the older Fallout game pages! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:31, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

ColboxEdit

I've taken a look at that template, but I don't know how to collapse it either. Best to ask GhostAvatar or Porter21 I think. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:15, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hole Edit

There isnt a single page, but I'll try and create a category for them this week that will list them all. Agent c (talk) 00:25, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Enclave Edit

Hmm. Well, everything I said is backed up by in-game content. Let me explain:

  • "Not true. There was a lot of outposts and we realy didn't know, which one is "main", where all non-military personel lived. Navarro wasn't main mainland base, it was small outpost for all FEV operation. There were only some military guys, nothing more."
    • It is explained in-game that Navarro was an old military base that was converted into the Enclave's primary mainland headquarters. Right before Navarro was destroyed, the remaining Enclave were confirmed by canon to have either integrated with the NCR, or followed Autumn senior to Raven Rock in the CW. Most Enclave members who integrated were rooted out, which caused them to flee to other territories. (See, the Enclave Remnants in the MW.)
  • "Actually, there is more than a 1k people. Chris Avellone said "amount of permanent residents on the oil rig was between 60 and 80, who probably were the government of the Enclave." Ofc. there was also 1k other poeple, mentioned by Curling, but they were only temporary and in normal conditions, they lived in "some main mainland base", which wasn't Navarro. When we take into account 1k from Oil Rig, guys who left in all mainlands outposts, guys from Chicago then we got more than 1k."
    • If he truly said that, then he's absolutely mistaken. As seen in-game, there are Enclave citizens, and Enclave scientists on-board the oil rig, along with the government and military presence. As for Curling, he said no such thing. The Enclave never once left the Oil Rig until the events right after the Master was defeated. (As stated by established canon.) That was around the time they decided to first send scouting parties out, and it wasn't until they discovered the Super Mutants that they started rebuilding bases to occupy outside of the Oil Rig. (Mariposa, Navarro.) So primarily, the only members of the Enclave that were located outside of the Oil Rig were scientists or the military. I refer you to my first counter-point as to what happened to the very few survivors.
  • "...guys from Chicago..."
    • I hope you realize that it's mere speculation that there's any Enclave still alive in Chicago. That, and only a handful were left behind, so there could be a safe-zone in-case Autumn ever needed to travel back to Navarro. (They never found out that Navarro was destroyed.)

Dragon Leon Skål! 23:26, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

  • " But I'd rather have the weight of a thousand on my conscience than several hundred-thousand."
    • Throwing a random number out there isn't proof of anything. There's no way he could have known how many Enclave there were, and this is reinforced by the fact that he just threw a blanket number out for how many people would die in the wastelands too.
  • "Navarro, ok, that was primary mainland headquarter. But headquarters isn't supposed to be place, where all civilians should live, only command, as we can see in-game."
    • I already said that the civilians still mostly live on the Oil Rig. This is proven through the fact that all of the Enclave lived on the Oil Rig, and it was only recently that they decided to make mainland bases. This is also proven by the fact that there's a civilian section that you run into the moment you first climb onto the Oil Rig.
  • "Only those remainings, which we know. Best example is William Brandice. He didn't integrated into NCR, but decided to just go as far, as he could. It is possible that there were more such cases and I am sure that those who couldn't integrate into NCR, must flee."
    • That's speculation, though. We're talking about facts here. As in, canonized material. I am merely accounting for what has been confirmed. Brandice just happens to be the only unique case mentioned so far.
  • "Can you specify the source?"
    • I don't have to. Read the article pages here at Nukapedia. Ooor, you could simply just play Fallout 2, and learn the history yourself, the way I did. Actually, looking at the Enclave article page, it essentially says the exact same thing that I did. There's your source, then.
  • "Ha, Really? Just like you, I can say some facts cited by you also can be mistakes... Such a thing doesn't make sense."
    • I provided facts, backed up by in-game material. So, if you're going to be rude and make blanket/loaded statements like that, then I am not going to further this debate. I'm all up for a debate, as long as you're respectful. Dragon Leon Skål! 23:54, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
  • Well, not everything a dev says is instantly classified as canon. Even the people who make the games can make mistakes, or get their canon mixed up.
  • Chris - He doesn't state where the new recruits are coming in from. And I never said there weren't any other bases; they were just a lot more minor, never appearing or really even being mentioned in-game. As for them not coming from the Oil Rig, that's not true. All Enclave come from the Oil Rig. Not enough time has spanned for newborn to be raised off the Oil Rig.
  • Technicians - Yes, it's the primary mainland base. The Oil Rig is still their overall main base though, and that's still where most of the Enclave resides.
  • Cook - I refer you to my second counter-point. Local just means a wastelander that they're putting up with for the meantime, before wiping them out. (It's been shown that the Enclave work with the locals, and even let them on their base from time-to-time. See the deals they do with the Salvatores for a perfect example.) Anyways, not enough time has elapsed for new-born Enclave member to be raised on land. They've only recently started setting up base in the wasteland.
  • Navarro Guard - Once again, I never said there wasn't a mainland base with civilians on it. I merely said that most of the Enclave on land were either scientists or military. Most of their numbers were still living on the Oil Rig, however. What I was arguing about with civilians, is that you said that there was confirmed to be over a thousand of them, and that most of them were located off the Oil Rig, which you said supposedly could only hold 60-80 people; which is entirely false. Dragon Leon Skål! 00:50, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

By the way... Edit

I'm sorry if I took that one remark of yours the wrong way. I really do enjoy debates like this, though. :) It gets my brain working, and I always love going over lore. Looking forward to your next counter-argument. Dragon Leon Skål! 00:55, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh, you're right, I completely misunderstood you there. Sorry about that. I guess it's kind of hard to say on either side how many Enclave there were, and where they were stationed. I might have to ask Sawyer about that. That would be an interesting thing to add here at Nukapedia. Dragon Leon Skål! 01:05, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. The only thing I can say there, is that there's quite a phenomenon in human psychology that happens when a person walks in somewhere where they don't belong. People instantly assume that you're supposed to be there once you're on the inside. (Movies/books/games strongly underplay this phenomenon.) As for the locals mentioned being Enclave personnel, I'd have to play the game again and see if something clarifies upon this dialogue. I know that's a dissatisfying thing to say, but I am a little fuzzy on dialogue with cook. I'll let you know if I can figure anything out. Dragon Leon Skål! 01:20, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Enclave Debate Edit

  • "The Enclave are a remnant of the past - a neurodyne that has yet to be aligned. They have hidden bases all over the shards of old California, and their strongest stronghold is off to the west, over the waters."
    • Yes, even I had already mentioned that it's confirmed they have a few minor bases lying around, as well. As for their strongest stronghold, yes, that's correct. It's called Raven Rock. I already took that location into account, as that's where Autumn Senior led the survivors from Navarro before it was destroyed.
  • "Beats me. I was a Navarro tech, not a rig operator. We talked to them over the comm lines, and that was about the extent of it."
    • He just said that he was a techie, and not an oil rig operator. That doesn't mean he was never on the Oil Rig. The truth of the matter is, all Enclave were born and raised on the Oil Rig. The first time they leave the Rig since the Great War is when they started sending scouting parties, and that's when they discovered the Super Mutants. After they saw the Super Mutants, that's when they decided to cleanse the wasteland, and they started building bases off-Rig. If you look at the time-line, this means that the Enclave has only been on land for a few years. So how in the world are there supposed to be Enclave that have been raised on the mainland and are ready to be suited up and ready to fight by the time Fallout 2 comes around, when they haven't even been on land for 10 years? Makes no sense. If there is dialogue to the contrary, then it's a fluke. I'll believe the time-line lore they came up with over minor in-game dialogue, any day.
  • "Only goverment, Secret Service and Oil Rig operators were in normal conditions in Oil Rig."
    • No. I have already explained this before. The Oil Rig is confirmed to have held every Enclave member that has ever existed since the Great War until a few years before the events of Fallout 2. This includes civilians. This is reinforced by the fact that the second you board the Oil Rig, you run into the civilian section, where there's only a few guards, and a ton of unarmed civilians who flee from you should you decide to attack them. Dragon Leon Skål! 18:18, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • "Around 2241 they abandoned every outpost..."
    • Speculation.
  • "Enclave is slightly more than 1k people around 2241."
    • Speculation.
  • "Vault also was supposed to be for 1k people similarity isn't accidental."
    • The Vaults were never meant for the Enclave. They were made to socially test people for certain conditions, for when the Enclave left Earth to settle another planet. Anyways, still speculation. Dragon Leon Skål! 18:26, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • "Enclave flying to another planet isn't speculation. Some develeper confirmed that to Asuir. And after re-thinking, I agree that Enclave early abandoned space-program, because around 2241 they haven't informations about outcomes of all vaults. My fault."
    • You misunderstood me. :) The flying to space part isn't speculation, it's just a dream that was scrapped over time by the Enclave. I just meant it was speculation to assume that the size of the Vaults was comparative to the size of the Enclave. Especially since each Vault was different, and held different amounts of people.
  • "See? Chosen One want any informations about Oil RIg, any, but Meyers can't give them to Chosen One, because he didn't lived there. If he lived, then he might say for example about how many levels Enclave Oil Rig has, where is President etc. or even something about civilian section. But only informations what he has, is that given by Oil Rig operators, which weren't nothing important."
    • Like I said, I'm going to take the Enclave lore over minor dialogue any day. Canon says that the Enclave hasn't even been on land for 10 years. Navarro was inhabited for even less time.
  • "Evidence. You keep saying "results from the game" but now I saying like you to my words "Speculation". Descriptions needed. Timeline mention only sending scouts, not leaving first time Oil Rig."
    • Evidence? Look at the Fallout Bible. Hell, even the time-line you made supports what I say. Canon states that the Enclave never left the Oil Rig, and never planned too. Their original plan was just to leave for space, but after time went by, they eventually forgot or scrapped the idea. After they developed power armour that was capable of combating the radiation in the wasteland, they started sending out their first scouting parties. The first thing they found was Mariposa, where they made their first main base, and started looking for FEV samples. They then found the Super Mutants, who were remnants of the Master's army. When they saw these Super Mutants, and after seeing what the FEV was doing to the Enclave's slaves at Mariposa, they decided to take matters into their own hands, and started developing a re-purposed FEV virus, while setting up bases throughout the wasteland to begin their plans on re-establishing dominance.
  • "They just lived in their hidden outposts in California, without any activity. "Around 2235 they became active and start by sending scouts to everywhere." (That one from timeline) And now it's made sense for locals and guys like Meyers."
    • The only confirmed Enclave to have existed after the Great War are the ones located on the Oil Rig. Saying that there were other outposts before the Enclave started leaving the Oil Rig is speculation. As for that being on the time-line, where did you dig that up? Because I'm reading the Fallout Bible, and it says nothing about there being other Enclave bunkers that merged with the Oil Rig Enclave.
  • "Not. Curling words. He didn't thrown random words, but if yes, any evidence for that? Other than "results from the game"? I can also starting saying like this, but this would destroy any discussion."
    • Yes, he is throwing random words out. Like I said before, he's just throwing blanket numbers out there, as evident by the fact that he also makes up a number for how many people are in the wasteland. There's no way he could have known either. Dragon Leon Skål! 19:19, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • (Skipping the first point, since we're pretty much at an understanding on it now.) "Ooo! That what I want! : ) From where did you get those 10 years?"
    • Let me just dig it up real quick... "2236 July 20 - Enclave scouts discover the remains of the Mariposa Military Base and find it partially destroyed." This is around the time that they first started making a serious presence in the wasteland around them. This is evident by the fact that they had only recently created an advanced model of power armour that would allow them to go into the wasteland without fear of radiation. "2242 Fall (Fallout 2 ending) - The Chosen One enters the Enclave's oil rig using the damaged tanker and destroys the Poseidon oil platform, killing the President of the United States and ending the Enclave's plans for world domination." This is when the Oil Rig was destroyed during the events of Fallout 2. That means it's only been somewhere between 8-13 years since they've started sending out scouting parties.
  • "AHS-9"
    • Ah! Thank you for finding that. I'll have to read through the dialogue again, but I'm still a little iffy on the details. For instance: How do we know that the bases he mentioned are still functional, or even occupied? For instance, the stronghold he mentioned was completely devoid of life until Autumn Senior migrated there from Navarro.
  • "Dr. Henry used to work with the Enclave cyber-genetic research program at the Poseidon oil rig and at various other Enclave installations."
    • That's not really proof, though. I've already agreed with you that other bases were made or re-furnished after they decided to set up on the mainland. For all we know, these other installations they're talking about are recently made ones.
  • "...told Henry he was going to recommend that Henry be transferred to another Enclave."
    • This one is interesting. It's a tad vague, but it does strongly suggest an alliance with another branch of the Enclave. The only problem is, where are these supposed others coming from? So far, they haven't shown any evidence, which is strange. Maybe they have plans on introducing them at a future date, if there truly are other branches of the Enclave still active.

Dragon Leon Skål! 19:51, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

New Reno Edit

I wasn't able to find a source, so I was forced to remove this line for now: "New Reno is one of the few cities that are not part of the NCR in the Core Region." Since you were the one whom added that note, I was wondering if you could provide a reference? I would really appreciate it. Thanks! ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 05:46, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

Blog Comments Edit

I'm going to have to ask you to cool down with some of your recent comments. My primary concern is your flame-baiting over Fallout 3. Nukapedia is a haven for any and all games related to Fallout. If we weren't, we certainly wouldn't be covering games like BoS. Before the split with us and The Vault, our wiki had a large problem with scaring away and discriminating against the newer generation of Fallout players. This is something that we've been working hard at alleviating, and I'd appreciate it if you left your bias to yourself when inappropriate. For instance, this comment of yours: "Well, most people played Fo3 for like few minutes, and then realized it sucks, so theres results. : )" - Not only was this an obvious flame-bait, but also was entirely irrelevant towards the topic at hand, and any of the prior comments on the topic to yours: "The amount of people who don't know the answers to these questions have to be trolling, there is no way you are active enough on the wikia to vote but clueless enough not to know what the poll involves." While I understand and appreciate your views over which games you personally like or despise, I'd appreciate it if you showed some respect towards our wiki and its community. Thank you. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 19:49, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

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