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Inactive Edit

I've seen your forum page, but as far as I'm concerned your inactive status doesnt start for 24hrs, give you some time to cool down. If I don't see you take any actions on the wiki in the next 24hrs, then I'll put it in the news. Agent c 23:38, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Skill magazine voteEdit

You still seem to be checking in here, so I might as well ask you what do you think of the skill magazine vote. Eight in favor, 14 against. Balancing them out means they're gone. I will be sad to see them go, always thought they were very helpful and notable enough to be listed on location pages. But it seems the community has spoken, that's the way it is then. I want to make an exception though for in any case Goodsprings; it has the highest number of skill magazines in the entire game (17) and is the startlocation, Camp Golf (14) and Vault 3 (12). Nellis, The Tops and Camp McCarran have 10 each. And perhaps the early game's main locations on the way to Vegas, Primm, Nipton and Boulder City. Just noticed that the Fallout: New Vegas skill magazines page can be sorted to location so that should help too. Think it over and I'll hear it then. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:06, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Klyde... Sorry Clyde, good to see you haven't lost your sense of humor around here ;) Also thought reverting Limmie's change in the notable loot policy was a bit hasty. Doesn't look too bad what she came up with. We could reinstate it and let the admins make the final call on adjustments. And what you think of the skill mags? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:04, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

NL Edit

That wasn't my main concern, actually. She added in foreign concepts that were not included in previous NL policy. You can read them on her TP, as I just added them a second ago. She cannot make the changes she did until she amends these mistakes. And I use Klyde because it's short for KingClyde. :) Dragon Skål! 00:06, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hey there! Clyde, I've came to ask you for the roll of Patroller. I'm willing to put forth my efforts and become one. The requirements all fit for me, and all I need it your word. Thanks!--For NCR 20:01, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Patroller handoutsEdit

You're kind with the patroller rights handouts. For NCR is only just a member for a month. Guess they know which bureaucrat to ask :) Don't think I would haven given it to him (or Charcoal) yet. And I've added a comment on the notable loot talkpage, check it out if you can. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:35, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

We were discussing this in chat earlier, I told him: If you want the rights, best to ask Clyde, not J ;) I think you're giving them out just a little too easily. Not only must these tools be truly worked for but they're also a requirement on the way to admin. --Skire (talk) 21:53, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that's a good point. And plus, like you said, we need not fear power abuse from patrollers hehehe. --Skire (talk) 21:59, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Active Edit

Sorry about that, I only meant to change GuardianOfTheWaste's user link to fit alphabetical order. I'm not sure how I re-added that "inactive bureaucrats" bar as I'm glad you're back! :) --Skire (talk) 18:35, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Need to talk Edit

Hey, Clyde, I've need to talk to you about something. Try to find me in chat if you can, the sooner, the better. If not tonight, I'll be on tomorrow starting at about 4pm EDT. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 03:25, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Here is what you wanted, I believe. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 04:24, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Bugs Edit

Wow, way to verify bugs after they are overdue ;) --Skire (talk) 23:25, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

User Rights Reform Edit

Hi Clyde,

I had a suggestion for user rights reform, which I know you have a bit of an interest in. I had an idea I wanted to run by you. Basically it achieves your goal of eliminating the Moderator rank, and allows people to achieve admin without the "Sigma Delta Problem" (Ie- people voting no due to nonpresence in chat.

Chatmod: Chatmod becomes a user right independent of other ranks. The requirements remain the same as now but the endorsement rather than being an admin changes to another user with Chatmod rights in good standing (no bans, warnings etc in say 3 months) to vouch for presence in chat and good behaviour, and the support of the community. The change to this from administrator is to support "Non Chat Administrators".

Patroller: Patroller remains more or less as it is now. A request to a B/c with 250+ edits with the rollback/patroller suite.

Moderator: Position deleted. Chatmods can request patroller at 250+ edits, patrollers can set up a vote for chatmod with an endorsement, however request must be at least 1 month clear of last "Promotion" (ie- a patroller has to be a patroller for a month before can become a chatmod, and vice-versa). The month period gives us all to see that requesting user can be trusted with the tools given so far.

Administrator: Requirements either remain basically as they are, or given a bump up in the edit count; the word "Moderator" to be replaced with "Patroller" in the requirements. An Administrator does not get the Chatmod right by virtue of rank; however with an endorsement (as per the Chatmod change) they can combine a single vote page for both admin and chatmod. This eliminates the "Sigma Delta Problem" as admins can run without needing/wanting chat rights if they just want to keep to the wiki part.

Bureaucrat: Must be appointed from an existing administrator except in extenuating circumstances.

Lemmie know what you think. Agent c 18:16, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that it's not possible to separate admin rights from chat mod rights. Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 21:20, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, it is possible. But you have to convince Wikia Staff that it is worth their time to make changes and that it's absolutely necessary to create different power levels within our ranking system. Dragon Skål! 21:22, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
I honestly don't see the need in taking chat mod rights from admins. It takes a vote to get admin rights and having the ability to ban users from the sight and not kickban users from chat doesn't make sense to me.--Kingclyde 21:26, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
The issue isn't so much in them having the rights, its more about the problems we saw in Sigmadelta's original (Then Full) moderator request, people voting no because he "was never in chat". It allows wiki-focused users to move up to admin rank without having to worry about their "Chat image". Agent c 21:46, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
Have you ever seen someone vote no on an admin request request because the applicant isn't in chat enough? I certainly have not. ----Skire (talk) 22:05, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yeah, MysteryStranger's a prime example of that. SD's application's issue was that he was applying for Mod's position, so this problem would become a non-issue after the removal of the full-Mod rank. Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 22:33, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Justified text forum Edit

I've opened a forum to discuss using justified text in the article space. If you would like to take a look at it, your input would be appreciated. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 21:11, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Yessie Edit

I felt I needed to step in on this, and with good reason, I believe. I have been in chat, and a lot of what I have seen are people talking bad about him while he's not online and using this blog as a chance to release anger. It's causing a disruption, and as an Administrator, it is my duty to prevent disruptions. I also don't see how I'm talking down on anybody. It is common practice for an Administrator to jump onto a disruptive blog/forum/etc. and stop a conversation from continuing with threat of deletion if it continues. Just because he's an Administrator doesn't mean I can't follow the same common practices. Dragon Skål! 21:46, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

You're joking? Al sent Yessie a message about subjects like his girlfriend and cutting himself. That is not appropriate anywhere, especially not here on a wiki. I had every right to stop that conversation before it escalated. Then everyone else started jumping in and attacking me very emotionally, I must add. And I hate to point it out, but it's only because Al is so popular here. He has done the exact same thing I have done before numerous times. And yet I'm all the sudden the bad-guy for doing the same thing that Administrators and Bureaucrats have been doing since this wiki was made? You have no grounds for removing my rights. I've seen much worse conversations being had, with nothing done to them which you knew about. You are also a conflict of interest. Not long ago you took a break and ostracized me publically in your blog. You also have a history of insulting me greatly. Dragon Skål! 22:29, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

A moment of your time Edit

Can you meet me in chat? Don't worry, it's not about recent incidents here. Dragon Skål! 04:36, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


Okay, so I was just looking at another page. Shouldn't some of the guns on the NCR Ranger safehouse be removed? I don't believe that a hunting revolver, an assault carbine, or a trail carbine are rare or unique. (DrSchroeder 06:49, May 8, 2012 (UTC))

Patrollers Edit

Looks like we might want to be more careful in the future when considering Patroller rights. Gauzz and Broccoli both have decided to leave us for The Vault. Dragon Skål! 23:51, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


Thank for that Clyde. Sums up my thoughts quite nicely, seeing as in how he never consulted anybody or even planned to give credit. Dragon Skål! 22:13, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


You love me really, you know that you wanted to sign my friends list :p NextTattoo"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 22:45, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Enclave wikiEdit

Hello, my name is Redstar411. I am one of the members and leaders of the enclave+wiki. I am responding to your message to inform you that I do know of the old wiki's past and most of all, who dunnit. I'd like to talk to you personally somewhere private. Let me know whenever you can, thank you. I will be at the enclave wiki.

Notable lootEdit

I went through the GECK for all notable armor and weapons for FO3, FNV and its add-ons and added them to the notable loot page. Most are items with between 2 to 5 fixed locations, and are useful and a need to know I'd say. Can you go browse them for a peer review? I will also ask Leon what he thinks. Then after that people can start doing some work on it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:49, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Leon removed a lot of items I added... You can browse back in the history to see my list. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:21, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

I need help with fallout new vegas! I was and am trying to find my way into the great khan encampment(for hours) and was and am rounding the huge rocks surrounding it from north to east to south. Anyways I know it was and is stupid but I took the trip with just 3 stimpaks and have long ago used them and now have only 15 HP left and somehow stupidly managed to make the game autosave just out of the range of there being enemies nearby(deathclaws). now everytime I start, I have about 4-5 seconds to decide how I am going to kill 2 deathclaws and 1 young deathclaw with just A few choices on the matter, I have A merc. grenade launcher, which I've got killed with while trying to take their legs or anything out at least 10 times, and also A 9mm submachine gun which is like the 2nd best gun I have for the situation, I really need your or anyone's help with this PLEASE & THANK YOU (maybe there is some kind of code I could enter to make the deathclaws go away?) please help me !!!!!!! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Page Protection Edit

I understand now. I was confused at first as to why my pages were unprotected, and then I saw Sigma's message making note of how many other pages were affected as well. Makes sense though. My initial concern was just if my specific protections were being removed systematically. Dragon Skål! 09:11, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Patroller Edit

Hello Clyde. Just a few questions about requesting Patroller rights in the near future. I meet the current requirements, although I have not been continuously active for 1 month as of yet (working on it). I was, however, active in the past for longer than that period, and have been a wiki member for almost a year. Is the time requirement cumulative or based on active editing from your last absence?

I believe my edits are generally of high quality, but I would also like your opinion on anything I could work on to make this a reality. Please let me know of anything that comes to mind. For the record, this is not a request for patroller rights, merely an inquiry.

Regards, FollowersApocalypseLogo Apocalypse Now! 06:37, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Salient Green Edit

Interesting... did they happen to say what the connection between the two were? O: Because so far, I'm not seeing any connection aside from a partially similar name and both of them being green in colour. :') I'll still check up on Sawyer's Formspring though. I'm interested to see what he has to say on the matter, and the details behind why they added Salient Green to OWB Dragon Skål! 21:36, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Well if I may, I'd like to contest those points:
  • Soylent Green was originally made solely from Plankton, with the purpose of feeding the people. It was then switched out to people being the main ingredient once the worlds' food supply began running out even further.
    • Salient Green was made from common vegetation for the purpose of cloning other plants. There is no reference or proof pointing towards Salient green being used as a food supply. There are also no humans used to make Salient Green.
  • I really don't see how two items being consumable is proof towards a connection. Even with a similar name.That would be like saying anpam bread is the same as appam bread. Or tofu burgers being the same as hamburgers.
  • While both settings did indeed have Dr. Who references, these references had nothing to do with Salient Green or Soylent Green specifically. So I don't consider that a confirmation of anything.

Let me know what you think. Dragon Skål! 21:53, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

I actually was the one who added that the day of the OWB release. Leon, I know you don't like to add unnecessary clutter to a page, but when the connection seems so obvious, why does it hurt? I wouldn't doubt Sawyer would say any different.--Bunny2Bubble 21:56, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Oh wait no! I remember getting on to add and someone beat me to it:/ Well, my opinion on it stands the same.

Leon and I had a nice talk about it yesterday (you can find the exchange on our talk pages) but I think Sawyer will ultimately confirm everything. And "soy" doesn't really sound like "chocolate". --Skire (talk) 22:27, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Those were just off the top of my head. :P I replaced that one with a better example. Dragon Skål! 22:37, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Y U Edit

Edit your message to me on my friends list? D: NextTattoo"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 23:16, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Violation of policy Edit

Clyde, I'm sorry to have to bother you with this (on a holiday, no less) but I feel I must follow policy to the letter. GarouxBloodline has repeated reverted page protection revisions without cause on multiple pages like Medicine Stick, Martin Retslaf and Gold bar. He even goes as far as to say that gold bar should be locked "indefinitely. Nothing more needs to be added here" (from edit summary). I understand that Nukapedia and Wikia page protection policies have been clearly outlined to him, as well as Admin policy for reverting other Admin's actions. I believe my duties require me to act on this, regardless of his status as an Admin and his standing in the community.

I feel that action should be taken and applied as it would be to any other user here. Violations of policy, repeated ones at that, after warnings, by any user merit discipline. I have left a message for him (as required by policy) and have brought this to your attention rather than reverting his changes (also required by policy). You may see that message here. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 14:22, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Clyde! As Gunny, I am sorry for having to bring any of this up to you on a holiday. I know you will read my response to him, but I would also like to condense my thoughts as a response to Gunny's points here as well:
  • I agree with both of you when saying that most article pages should be left alone. Policies even state that a page can be locked indefinitely as long as good reasons are provided. (Although this action is still considered unorthodox here.) There are only three pages I would like locked, and Gunny already linked to them above. I would be happy to come to some sort of compromise, but I believe they should at least be locked until Fallout 4 content starts to make itself known here.
  • Gold Bar - I locked this page after having to spend every day after the release of DM removing strategy on how to obtain every gold bar. After... a month? Jspoelstra and I agreed on giving the page another chance. I ended up having to lock the page again later, because myself and other editors were having to remove a constant stream of strategy once again.
  • Martin Retlaf - This page was locked by myself after myself and others were forced to deal with constant edit wars with mostly the anonymous on how Martin died. It was later agreed upon that the protection level should be downgraded, and then the same speculation was added the same day.
  • Medicine Stick - Another case of mass speculation. Also another page I had to check every day to make sure no one was adding speculation on how the symbol could possibly be a reference to the FoA.

These are the only 3 pages I feel strongly about, and I have given very good explanations along with the page histories to support my reasoning. I have absolutely no problem explaining myself further, and possibly even bringing in a mediator, but I find my protections removed for no further reason aside from the reverter in question not personally liking the protection, or falsely stating that policies forbid the locking of an article page indefinitely. So yes, I reinstated my protections. I did this because almost every removal was done without even bothering to consult me first, and they were removed with no real reasons to back up the removals. If you would like, I can leave the protections off for now so we can finally have a proper discussion. My main issue here is just other Administrators going around while I'm not looking and undermining my efforts. I admit I should have consulted someone first before reinstated my protections. But when I have explained my reasons before-hand, and an Administrator goes ahead anyways and removes my protections while I'm not looking without providing any legitimate reasons, I consider that an abuse of Administrator powers. I understand why you removed the protections Clyde, (Although you didn't remove any of mine.) as I absolutely agree that there were a stunning amount of pages that were locked. But I have explained myself to Gunny multiple times now, and then he pulls stunts like this where he removes the protections anyways, without even notifying me. I consider that edit warring. I am free most of today and tomorrow, so let me know if you need any further details or if we should talk further on the matter. If I'm missing something in the policies, (Although I have double-checked already.) then feel free to point my mistakes out. If I am mistaken in any way, then I will drop this whole thing and leave the page protections to individual incidents. Looking forward to your response. Dragon Skål! 20:53, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

You got a minute? Edit

Hey can you hop into chat for a minute or two? Thanks. ToCxHawK 23:26, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Incident Edit

I want to bring your attention to Forum:Chat_Incident which concerns a incident in chat on the 2nd of June. As it concerns multiple users and members of the Administrative team we sought best to bring it both bureaucrats attention. Neko-signature Gothic NekoNeko's Haunt 21:03, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

hey Clyde. we are having a rough time in chat. SaintPain is being a pain to everyone but we dont want to kick him. According to him, he has been kicked 8 or 9 times, and according to Guazz Rifle its not a good idea to ban or kick him because anyone that does ends up losing thier powers, since appereantly Saint has poeple that have his back. we believe he is bluffing. now there is 4 questions here: 1. is it even true that he can be let alone has been kicked/banned that many times 2. has anyone really stripped thier power for it 3. why would someone tolerate a person being annoying on chat, something seems fishy 4. can you get your powers back if they are stripped from you

If theyre is any advice aside from the answers you can give me, please le me know


 FunnynamehereFunnynamehere 11:40, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
Might be worth keeping an eye on this Clyde, there was another complaint about SaintPain during a time without moderators earlier today (see Scarface's talk). Agent c 12:13, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

The DivideEdit

Hey Clyde. Just stopped by to ask if it was alright for my weekly blog to be added to the news category. Get back to me on it when you can. Thanks! ~ Toci ~ Go ahead, make my day. 04:22, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Notable lootEdit

Not sure if you noticed, but Garoux and me have set up a discussion forum thread about the notable loot to be added to the NL help page. Reading all the comments I think it comes down to it we can add my list to the policy page (which I've already done), to make a better guideline on what's NL. I spent a lot of time checking the GECK and then we would have a general list of unique items, quest items, holodisks etc. and beside that we'd have a rare items list, where the items are specifically mentioned (max. 5). I may have missed a few, but it's a good list. After reading the discussion I don't think a vote is needed, it won't be a real policy change, just an more detailed specification to what is NL. Then we can finally have some people working on it. I'd like to close this up. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:16, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

G.E.C.K. Edit

Can you let me know when you're on next? I'm hoping to get your help on something. Dragon Skål! 19:39, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

New weapon comparison table template Edit

Howdy, Clyde. The new template is ready to roll out. I put one on Ballistic fist#Comparison for you to check out. Any suggestions or comments are welcome. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 16:20, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Inter-Wikia Translation Edit

Hey there Kingclyde. Thanks to one of Agent's News Digests, I recently learned of El Refugio, the Spanish Wikia sister of Nukapedia. Since they have very few articles, and since Spanish is my second language, I was wondering: I am allowed to manually (i.e. with myself and a dictionary, not with Google Translate) translate pages from Nukapedia to El Refugio?

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We already missed you here for some time, and I had guessed it would be work related like you mention. Well, no major issues that need attention right now, so it's all managable at the moment I think. Good luck with looking for that job and we'll see in a couple of weeks then! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:53, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Ghost's poll Edit

Is over, if one of you guys would like to pass the results. I've locked it so we don't get anymore late votes. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 00:21, July 8, 2012 (UTC)


His poll for BC has finished. Just to let you know. Energy X 08:37, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

chat moderator request Edit

hi sir i would like to request to be a chat moderator the reason i think so is that i want wiki users to have fun and learn on this great wiki i want to ban the people who try to stop them from doing that i want to help them out and make a difference in this wiki i want to get rid of trollers and spammers and help the others to have a great wuderbar time on this wiki sighned captainloudmouthCaptainloudmouth2 (talk) 02:17, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Patroller Edit

Yo Clyde, can you give me rollback? It seems I only have patroller instead of both. Thanks. Detroit lions Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate 06:54, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Springfield Edit

Niiiice. UserGreatMaraMessage 18:08, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

New toy Edit

Howdy, Capt. Clyde. I got a new toy. I made a template that creates sections of rotating content for use in places like where we have too many quotes, etc. and that can also rotate content like the page top quotes on articles. You can see it in use on Rose_of_Sharon_Cassidy. I based it off of {{CURRENTDAY}}, so it can contain up to 31 individual pieces of content. Let me know what you think, as this may be a good solution for having to limit quotes to only 5, and also add a little something extra by rotating those quotes as the page-top quote. I'm sure there will also be other places we can use it, it's not limited to only quotes. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 21:30, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Removal of bugsEdit

I saw you removed some bug with overdue verification. There's been some discussion about that with one of the main concerns that bugs are being removed after 2 weeks without them ever actually being verified and just are removed while they could still be true. Now there's a new template {{Platforms needed}} instead of the {{verify}} that's to be used. The verify template should only be used from now on for very suspicious, probable untrue bugs. For more info, best to ask SigmaDelta I think. He got the ball rolling on this matter. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:21, July 31, 2012 (UTC)


Congrats! Keep on pitying fools, and have an awesome day! Birthday hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Seems it's your birthday today. Congratulations and celebrate it well! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:24, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations. You should tell Chad to bring it on news digest. Energy X 17:22, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Happy birthday! Have yourself a good one, and let's hope Andy isn't around to destroy the cake! Dragon Leon Skål! 17:33, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Happy birthday Clyde!!! --Skire (talk) 17:48, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the bday wishes guys!--Kingclyde (talk) 23:02, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
Did you save us all some cake? ;D Dragon Leon Skål! 23:12, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
Andy screwed the pooch on that. Thanks Andy.--Kingclyde (talk) 23:14, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
Dammit, I wanted some cake ;~; Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
Damn, I just had to have jinxed it. :/ Dragon Leon Skål! 23:16, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
I heard the cake is a lie.--Kingclyde (talk) 23:17, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Whiner babies Edit

Since you hate Internet crybabies more than most people, I thought I'd share this with you. ~ Toci ~ Go ahead, make my day. 22:21, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Mod poll voteEdit

Hey Clyde, good to see you a bit more active again. I noticed you voted on the Limmie's mod poll. I thought us bureaucrats are to make a final judgment for these kind of polls, not vote for it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:02, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Video policyEdit

I want to ask... why do we only use embbed videos? Energy X 09:40, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Walkthroughs using chart template Edit

Howdy, Clyde. I've been working on using the {{Chart}} template to create a visual quick walkthrough for quests. I think i have it nailed down how to use it. Victor has been kicking around the idea of a project to use the chart template to replace the bullet list quick walkthrough sections. I've got a few worked up in my [[User:The Gunny/sandbox2|sandbox]] for you to check out. I like how it's working out, so far. Leon, myself, Vic and maybe a few others are willing to commit to a project to add this, if it's alright with the BCs. Take a look and let me know what you think. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 16:18, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

You asked me about the faction overhaul project. Edit

I made an small edit on the Super mutant page, last night or the night before but I have not gone out of my way to just work on any one project in quite some time. Mostly I just patrol, making general edits as I find the need.

How are things going with you?

User SP Bad Medicine SaintPainLook for me Dec 22 Y'all know what I'm say'n. 02:20, September 8, 2012 (UTC)


Hey, Clyde. You know that A-Team we talked about? It's official. Here's your userbox if you'd like to put it on your page, oh great Bosco:

A-Team logoThis user is a member of Nukapedia's A-Team.

~ Toci ~ Go ahead, make my day. 02:05, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't sure where you wanted it on your page, so I'll leave you the code here. Just remove the nowiki tags.

{{YoutubePlayer |Top = |VideoURL = embed/wyz_2DEah4o |Autoplay = 1 }}

~ Toci ~ Go ahead, make my day. 03:44, September 10, 2012 (UTC)


As you requested.
First off, I think you took my message the wrong way. Either we're both misunderstanding one another, or you're just in a bad mood. I wasn't trying to attack you, but the way I see it, keeping things the way they are isn't working considering we've kept it that way since the split. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but I'm not the only person who isn't overly impressed by how things are handled here (hence two bureaucrat requests at the same time vowing to fix the issues with this community).
I'm not claiming to be the community, nor am I saying that I'm more connected to the community than you. I'm fully aware that I'm rarely here anymore. I know you're in a different time zone, and I could see you in chat. Not sure what you're trying to prove there. The community extends far beyond chat, and the only time I see you step in on forums or mediate arguments is when they either involve you, or when you need to close the deadline on something. Nor do I see you in blog posts, making news, or actually bringing issues to light. Yes, when you joined "there were no blogs", but the least you can do is post a News Digest or something. I mean, its no different to creating an article with the exception of the talk page being in the form of comments. And more often than not its Leon or Limmie who are spearheading new policies. Furthermore, there are things that shouldn't need a vote, yet they do anyway (like the notable loot policy, which you could easily have made judgement on yourself). And I'm not even sure if you've looked at this. Knowing people in the community isn't akin to being engaged with the community.
Asking people to stop or take it elsewhere was what you were suggesting. I'll quote you:

If you see a heated discussion in chat causing drama, tell those involved to drop it or be kicked, that simple.

Why not just solve the issue instead of turning our backs and hoping it all ends out well? If you're active in the community, should you not see these issues before they become "Drama" and nip them in the bud, so to speak? I'm sure you're unaware that a user named Eden2012 was harassed by a group of administrators who repeatedly called him a genocidal Nazi supporter, told him he was sick, twisted and disgusting, and when he tried to stop the situation from escalating he was threatened with a ban and then told his opinions had the right to be shat on. You know what his crime was? He wrote a blog about why he would side with the Enclave. This all happened a few days ago, and I was this close to coming to tell you about it because there was a major issue being overlooked, until the admins involved made amends with the user.
Sure, it all turned out alright in the end. But the point was, where were you when this was happening? Where was Ghost (whom hasn't been around for the past week and a half), and where was Jspoelstra (who is probably the most engaged amongst the three of you)? I don't think you're doing a bad job, but if you were doing a good job then surely we wouldn't have four bureaucrat requests in the past year pledging to whip things into shape on account of the current staff members not seeming to care enough to involve themselves. You say dispute mediation makes matters worse, despite it being called mediation, yet the only other option is to have disconnected staff who essentially just exist to sit by and wait until one of the people arguing gets banned. On to the "Denying them the chance" part, I was regarding your dismissiveness to the situation. You said it yourself:

If you haven't tried to put a stop to the drama as admin, what makes you think you can as a bc?

Essentially you're asking them that if they can't do it already, they're not going be able to do it at all. Before they even get the chance to show that they can (or can't) effectively mediate, you're claiming that they've already proven enough. So where are you in this situation? Surely if the current administrators can't stop drama and therefore can't be bureaucrats, what gives you the right to be bureaucrat? This is all hypothetical mind you, and I wouldn't want to see you lose your position, but giving someone else the chance to fill in your blanks is by no means a bad thing. Its a very productive and clever thing.
I'm not sure what you mean by claiming I'm paranoid. If you mean my loss of administrator rights, I merely got angry because Cartman repeatedly put down literally everything I said, despite what I was saying being part of the rules (ie. Don't be a Dick, don't insult, assume good faith etc.) So it got to the point where he called me a troll who deserved to be banned and I yelled at him for it. Simple. I don't see how that's paranoid, unless you want to call my self-esteem into question, at which point I can assure you that I have near to none of that. Last but not least:

YOU don't know me. You do not know how I feel about things so do not make assumptions.

So I assume you know me? So you say that you're not opposed to another bureaucrat, but then you openly argue Gunny and Two-Bear's points. All I was saying is that if you don't like the fact that two users are running for bureaucrat, then try to work on what they (and myself a few months back) are preaching. Try to mediate issues, and don't just shirk "Drama" claiming that others can work it out. Make an effort to appear in the news, to start up new policies, to make this a place where there isn't all this "Drama". Don't just complain that myself and others aren't pleased with how you do your job - work HARDER to excel in your position. Its easy to say that you're happy with how you run this place, but clearly you're not willing to take other's criticism into account, let alone work on it.
Last but not least, you claim I'm stirring up drama. Hmmm... so me stating my opinions on a public forum is petty drama. Gee whiz, I suppose I should just stay quiet and let people walk all over me, because that sure did turn out well last time. I'm pretty much positive that you don't have a single clue about what keeps me here, how I feel about this place, and what drove me to do what I did in the past, or what lead to it. So calling it a petty form of "Yessie drama" is rather distasteful. You say I'm bending words and manipulating people into thinking a certain way... how do you know that's not just the way I think? Did it ever occur to you that I'm just a normal guy, not some flamboyant drama Queen master-maipulating the Wiki to love me? If I really wanted to be pitied by people I hardly know that badly, I'd just go talk to a mirror. Feel free to blow this out of proportion and then claim that its my fault this "Drama" happened. It wouldn't be the first time, believe me. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 08:39, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't present when you asked to get into chat. I'll give your message a read and hopefully that will be that. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 10:08, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

uh, KC...Edit

Why am I banned?--Fo2 NCR Flag A Safe People is a Strong People! 23:27, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox location changeEdit

Clyde, what do you think of Forum:Add "Creatures" in location infobox? I think it would be an improvement if we add creatures and robots to the location infobox. Theodorico made an example how it looks. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:17, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

Forum:Fantasy FellowshipEdit

Hey Kingclyde, can you give your input on that forum? Energy X 19:10, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

BC Edit

Thanks for that Clyde. I hope you know I didn't mean it as invalidating others' opinions, I rather just struck it out in its whole. Your words mean a lot and thanks.--Bunny2Bubble 21:41, September 17, 2012 (UTC)


Gunny's poll for bureaucrat has been finished. Energy X 21:13, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

just to be clear please Edit

Your ban from the 15th anniversary chat was just because the party was over right?

It would be sad if folks thought I said something to invoke a ban.

  • I'm sure I was playing nice but I just want to be clear.

CupSaintPainThat was broke afore I got here." 02:10, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

"Quote" That is correct. You behavior was fine and that was great. I reinstated your ban due to the festivities being over that's all. I think you were behaving yourself quite nicely.--Kingclyde (talk) 05:34, October 3, 2012 (UTC) "end Quote"

Thank you for confirming that Kingclyde. I am not quoting you in any attempt to be facetious but your words and how they are viewed here do carry weight.

  • I miss chat. I am pushing a slippery stone up a rough hill. I can't afford to be seen as taking things too lightly.

CupSaintPainThat was broke afore I got here." 06:12, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

You can go ahead with this Edit

Hey Kingclyde, just wanted to let you know that you can go ahead and remove my admin privileges. I don't play Fallout much anymore or have time for a lot of gaming in general, so I don't really visit the wiki much (I actually only got the notification for this because I visited the Borderlands wikia). If anything, when/if another fallout game comes and I get into, I might start visiting this wiki or the vault again and we'll see where it goes. :)

Cheers. --Clean Up (talk) 13:20, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Vote conclusionEdit

The vote on this has finished. It seems like a pass to me, so if you all want to notify me directly of the result or on the forum page is fine. Thanks and see you around =) --Skire (talk) 18:43, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I appreciate the quick response! --Skire (talk) 19:06, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Navbar Edit

Just cos I saw you asking in the log. The extended navbar has been forced on us as a part of the page formatting changes wikia have just done. Its also affected the size of the margins as well. There's been a couple of staff blogs about it

We do need someone to reorg it at some point, as I don't think its in its most helpful form. Agent c (talk) 14:00, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I'd go with the headings: Fallout 3, Fallout NV, Other games, Community (So removing news and on the wiki) and reorg everything around those. Not sure what the rules are on the navbar though. Agent c (talk) 19:57, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

"On the Wiki" can't be removed. It's added there by Wikia and is not part of MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation. I would like to create enough space in the headers so that community is not shortened. We we can either move all the games to the games heading or move "News" to the "Community" heading. Those are really about our only options. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 20:18, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Our forum discussion Edit

Good luck with force-feeding this community with your personal rules, but you have nothing to pay me with, for taking a part in this procedure. --Theodorico (talk) 12:35, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Video module Edit

Could you please leave your thoughts on Forum:Video_module_plebiscite? Since this is just to inform Wikia about the community's position on the matter, I think the BCs should also say their piece. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 20:03, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox old Edit

I went ahead and deleted Infobox old, and all associated deprecated templates/docs. I believe I got all the linked pages fixed, but I just wanted to give you a heads up in case I missed some. I will go ahead and delete the site .css for the old infobox. Let me know if you see anything that's amiss. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 18:49, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Navbar Edit

I presume from Gunny's comment we can't change the On The Wiki bit, so I've left it out. I suggest.

  • Fallout:New Vegas
    • leave it as it is, just move it to the 2nd position
  • Other Games
    • Just rename the Fallout Games section for the most part (So leave 1/2/3/Tactics/Wasteland)
    • Change "Other games" to "Cancelled games"
  • Community
    • Remove Chat (its in the "on the wiki" section)
    • Remove IRC (its not used anyway)
    • Move Policies to left most position
    • Help
    • Projects
    • Forum
    • ADB
    • Administrators

Does that work better for you? Agent c (talk) 22:46, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Music Edit

Business on the userpage, party on the talk. That way I get to change the playlist on the talk page around. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 00:02, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Chat banEdit

I wasn't thinking about that, sorry Clyde, I really didn't mean to post a link within a link of that, just realized that was there. Please unban me. FNV NCR Armor "Respect and Honor" 00:38, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the shortened ban, I guess im not getting c-mod now. : ( FNV NCR Armor "Respect and Honor" 00:46, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Clyde, just withdraw my request, im so mad at myself right now. FNV NCR Armor "Respect and Honor" 00:49, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Fallout: ApprenticeEdit

Hey, Clyde! I was wondering if you would like to upload an electronic signature? I am currently creating the Grand Prize for Chad's Fallout: Apprentice, and I am wanting to create a plaque that has all of the consenting leadership's signatures and thanks on it! ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 14:05, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Inactivity Edit

It's fine dude. I don't plan on being active on this wiki in the forseeable future, due to playing Skyrim - which you'll recognize as a non-Fallout-related game :) I really don't see myself ever becoming active here again. Have fun! --Kris User Hola 04:27, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Pinned threads in forums Edit

I just added a way to pin threads in the forums. All you have to do is add the category [[Category:Pinned {{PAGENAME}}]] to the forum page and create that category if not yet created. I'll work the kinks out a bit as I go, and try to add a "Pinned threads" section to the top of the forum tables. For right now, the only pinned thread I wanted was the Admin discussion board. We can look at new threads, like maybe a FO4 forum when it comes out, as they come up. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 22:30, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Clyde. Gothemasticator here. Just got an email informing me of the (long-overdue) changing of my user rights. Fine by me. The email did give me an opportunity to visit the site again, which was nice. Good to see you are still around working hard to bring some order and some sense to the place. Keep up the good work! Cheers. - 00:14, October 17, 2012 (UTC)


Very well. I'll leave up to you then. Energy X 10:41, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Friends ListEdit

Can i sign your friends list? Vault-Tec Circle "Editing With Triple S Technology!" 6:37, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Energy XEdit - Hey, Clyde, I figured this would cause a trouble or two, and you asked for someone to keep you updated. Come into chat, I think this is something worth talking about when you have time. Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 21:47, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Notable content Edit

Give this forum update a read. Let me know what you think about what if anything should be added back into notable loot? The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 20:44, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Check user requestEdit

I added my comment on Sannse talkpage. Best do as she suggests and send it with my comment included to Special:Contact. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:49, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I can only use check user on this wiki, not others. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:51, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hay Clyde never meant to leave you out Edit

I got this idea to weekly "Spotlight" active members. Most all of your fellow site leadership have been told what I would like to do.

  • Could you please discuss it with them and have some one get back to me.

As I have said, Spotlights would be voluntary and all efforts should taken to support personal information security.

Any and all guidance is of course welcomed. I thank you for your time.

SaintPain TinySaintPainThat was broke afore I got here." 07:18, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

User Avatar talk
Hello, Kingclyde. You have new messages at Limmiegirl's talk page.
Message added 14:38, November 24, 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Check userEdit

Hey Clyde, congrats on becoming the newest Check user! Energy X 23:34, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Check User Edit

Hey Kingclyde/Archive 9. In honour of our 3 Bureaucrats achieving Check User rights I took the liberty to make a User box to showcase these new rights (hope you Don't mind). Anyways, here the new Userbox:

Wiki-wordmarkThis user has Check User rights at the Fallout Wiki.Wiki-wordmark

And here is the code you'll be needing.

{{User Check User}}

Thanks again for everything you do for our site, and hope you like the Userbox. Your Always; -- The Old World Relics (talk) 04:57, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Anon Edit

You removed your message, but I feel I should go ahead and explain my actions. This anon has been hopping computers just to try and add speculation to the Catherine article page over how it is related to the Catherine game produced by Atlus. Which makes no sense seeing as in how Catherine was made long after Fallout 3. And since the accounts have been banned multiple times, I have increased the ban to 1-month from now on. Hope that explains everything, and I sincerely hope you can re-consider unbanning them. This anon is merely a nuisance. Nothing productive on their end. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:54, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Background image forum closed Edit

I have closed the the forum on submissions for a new background image. There were no qualifying submissions, and the forum had no activity for 2 weeks. I think this should be the end of any proposed changes to the site for a while. The survey I did clearly showed what people wanted to see in any change, but no one came up with a proposal that fit the criteria. Any suggestions for future changes needs to be done properly and vetted against what the community desires before anything is put up for a vote. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 21:20, December 14, 2012 (UTC)


Hey, BA, wanna meet up in chat sometime? I wanted to talk to you. Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 03:25, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Moderator requestEdit

Hello, just a reminder that Dead Gunner's moderatorship request's poll is over. Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 22:38, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas! Edit

Mr T cereal
You have been given a box of Mr. T Cereal.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Merry Christmas Clyde, and hope your back soon feeling 11o percent! Enjoy the Cereal! -- Fallout Skyline - Apprentice "Those Old World Relics still stand..." 04:27, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Kingclyde/Archive 9! Yours Always; -- Fallout Skyline - Apprentice "Those Old World Relics still stand..." 04:27, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Happy holidays Edit


Happy Holidays Edit


Despite the problems with your health, I hope you'll be able to enjoy the holidays and get better real soon! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:52, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Mr. T ChristmasEdit

For BA.

You have been given a fool to pity.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Now you don't have to find one. Happy Holidays! Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 21:14, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

From the ghoul whom you pity Edit

King Clyde's Gift
You have been given your sunshine band.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Finally!- your entourage is finally complete. Now you can deliver some of the best music that actually defined a decade. --The Ever Ruler (talk) 07:48, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Christmas! Christmas! AHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHEdit


For Kingclyde/Archive 9, From Agent C

You have been given a Christmas Gift

Still not to late to wish you a Happy New Year Edit

Saint Pain's Action moment
You have been given The Fallout Boy last action hero moment.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Shoot, hack, slash & pistol whip... Have fun with the New Year!' Live Long & Prosper

SaintPain TinySaintPainThat was broke afore I got here." 02:57, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Chat bot Edit

Just to let you know, I'm experimenting with an automated chatlog bot. You can see the bot at User:FOWchatbot. Still working out the kinks, but the chat logs will show in the page linked on that userpage and in [[Category:Wikia Chat logs]]. I've given the bot a flag, so the edits don't show in rc, and if this works properly, we'll probably have to protect the logs and give the bot admin rights. I'll keep you posted on how it's working, but this will save me a ton of effort. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 05:36, January 7, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Boss,

I had a suggestion from George (Lizzunchbox) at wikia last year that we might be able to get some folks into various conventions with a press pass... I've heard you're in Cali, on the presumption that we could get you a pass (not guaranteed) would you be interested in going and maybe doing a video report? Agent c (talk) 02:29, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

cloaking? Edit

Hey 'clyde.

Also, the Wikia wiki still has "The Vault" in its HTML, and Google shows it in search results: <section id="WikiaPage" class="WikiaPage V2 WikiaGrid"> <div id="WikiaPageBackground" class="WikiaPageBackground"></div> <div class="WikiaPageContentWrapper"> <header id="WikiHeader" class="WikiHeader"> <h1 class="wordmark medium graphic "> <a accesskey="z" href="/wiki/Fallout_Wiki"> <img src="" alt="The Vault" width="250" height="65" > </a> </h1> <nav class="WikiNav"> <h1>The Vault Navigation</h1>

The HTML on Wikia still bears our trademark. I believe this could be interpreted by Google as cloaking. Can you fix it? Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 23:16, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

News SharingEdit

Hi KC,

Wanted to sound you out about sonething... Recently Duck and Cover, the onetime home of The Vault, put out a call for people to help them collect and publish news. This seemed like a good opportunity to do a bit of content sharing and interlinking between the two sites. I've suggested it to King of Creation who seems keen on some sort of arrangement - details of course would need to be nailed out - but in Principle is this something you see as a good opportunity? Agent c (talk) 17:27, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Bug Policy revisions Edit

Hi King Clyde, if you could vote on take a look at this page and cast your opinion that would be awesome. ---bleep196- (talk) 19:00, January 29, 2013 (UTC)


Reading my own message back on Leon's talkpage I can understand it's not entirely clear, but I meant to say I don't want to include an ADB link on the welcome message. So I'm with you on that. New users don't need to know that yet, that can come later when they become more experienced and find the link for themselves or are told about it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:54, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

ADB Edit

I would first like to state my apologies for not including you in this discussion. I wasn't entirely sure at first if I should have, since you were largely inactive, but now you are back and I am glad to see that you discovered the circulating message, as I would like any and all feedback over the ADB.

  • "Out of curiosity, won't new users that add topics to the ADB that may not live up to your "standards" for being there just clutter it?"
    • This is a fair point, and I would like to clarify upon my position. Everyone is free to add their topics to wherever they feel is most appropriate. What I am suggesting is with the discovery of important topics that affects the wiki itself, to move them into a central hub where veteran (all) users will know to look. (I was thinking maybe even a tag that users can add into what would be considered important topics. But at the same time, I can imagine such a tag would be a bit unnecessary and possibly even abused.) For topics that are directly added to the ADB by users, there have already been a set of guidelines enacted to determine which topics are appropriate. If the topic(s) in question do not fit these guidelines, then they can just be moved back into another, more appropriate, category. It's really no trouble, and Gunny's magic has made it where the ADB won't become cluttered under normal circumstances.
  • "Personally I believe it should not be included in the welcome message and general issues should go in the main forums under the appropriate header."
    • When I originally thought of this implementation, I was keeping in mind how many new users have complained over how confusing Nukapedia is and how they didn't know who to talk to. I'm not sure if adding the ADB into the welcome message would improve user satisfaction, as there are few recorded instances where anyone has ever taken advantage of them before, but I figured this might be a good way to help newer users become aware of where to go if they had questions. As for the main forums, I would like to suggest that the ADB be made into one. So far, Chad and Gunny seem to support this idea.
  • "If we find an issue that is important enough that it needs attention of a bc, admin etc we will still see it in wiki discussion as it is the duty of all of us to check the forums at least every other day."
    • I wish this were true. But like in the example I made in my circulating message, which is just one example of many many other important topics which are widely ignored, sometimes the veteran users just aren't around to notice in time, or are discussion/vote lagged. And after seeing the state of The Vault, where an Administrator request was ignored for a month, and was left running for nearly 3, it reminded me of how often this happened before the split with the chaos of new games bringing into hundreds of forums and blogs, leaving many important topics pushed into dark recesses of Nukapedia.

Thank you for your feedback, though. It will help us reach a consensus on where to possible take the ADB in time for Fallout 4. Please let me know if you have any further ideas/critique! ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 01:18, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

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