Hey kate there is an anon who keeps speculating (incorrectly as well) on the Calvin van lowe page. Tried messaging them and they aren't responsive--Branebriar1930 (talk) 22:51, September 24, 2020 (UTC)
Hello, and welcome to The Vault Academy! In this lesson plan, we will be going over General Editing, which is composed of basic yet essential etiquette regarding your editing and interactions with other editors here at Nukapedia.
Included below is a list of milestones that will need to be reached, which can be tackled in any order you wish. Every Friday there will be a progress report, where completed milestones will be gone over and checked off before moving onto the next part of the program. Your assigned mentor isn't just around to assign tasks; please do not hesitate to stay in consistent contact throughout the program, as strengthening your work relations with other editors is a crucial element to being a constructive editor.
Upon the completion of the General Editing Program, you will be awarded a certification of completion, which can be proudly displayed on your profile.
User interactions & common debate points
Many of our editors come to Nukapedia solely for the information, and can have little to no interest in the social aspects involved. Many of these editors, especially if they come here and are already familiar with standard wiki practices and etiquette, can even get away with avoiding other users for quite some time. But the longer a user remains here, a time will inevitably come where they'll attract someone's attention in some way or another, and so it's good for even our most reclusive of editors to know how to interact with others, and what sort of scenarios can lead to the necessity of such interactions.
To get you started, we have a set of guidelines to help pave the way to understanding what all we expect here, and reading them all will be important towards your success within our community. While most of the rule are fairly simple, there are two that I'd like to get into a bit further, as they are two of the most important rules that we have here:
1)Do not vandalize & always assume good faith: In general, do not outright remove content, whenever possible, whether it's on an article, talk-page, forum, etc. Even when you see a questionable edit that another user has made, and your finger is hovering over the undo button, you should always be considering first if it'd be better to re-write their additions, instead of blatantly removing it all. It's important to understand that users dedicate their time to try and improve this wiki, and so long as they edit in good faith, you should always keep in mind that taking only a second to undo their edits is hardly comparable to the time that they took to research and add their info.
2)Be polite: This one seems simple enough, but in practice it's easy to see our users fail to see each other as anything more than some letters and numbers on a screen, rather than a real, breathing person. As tempting as it may be to act impatient and short with other users, we are a community, a family for many, and we do expect for everyone to treat each other with basic respect and dignity. If at any point you are being disrespected, or you feel as if you cannot be civil, then please step away, and if necessary, contact an administrator and they'll step in as a mediator.
Wikis, by their very nature, are volatile environments due to so many different opinions and ideologies that are going to conflict with each other from time to time. Conflicts can be important though, as growth is attainable through our users challenging each other, and as such can be a healthy thing to have. With that being said, it's important to understand when a conflict has gone too far, and how to handle yourself in cases of bad faith.
What kind of conflicts are we talking about? Well, when it comes to editing, the examples are endless, so we'll be going over the most common of them that you're likely to encounter:
1)Edit-warring: "Be ready to discuss your changes with others. If you disagree with another editor, discuss the issue either on user or article talk pages. Repeatedly reverting each other's changes ("edit warring") is bound to escalate the conflict instead of solving it. If you cannot reach a consensus, ask an uninvolved user to mediate. In general, if someone reverts an edit you made, you should not re-add it without reaching a consensus on the article's talk page. Consensus does not have to be reached in cases of disruptive editing."
Edit-warring has always been the most common form of user conflict here at Nukapedia, and there's a good chance that at some point during your time here, you'll be involved in such conflict. Tempers flare, strong opinions are thrown around, and sometimes the other user is just so obnoxious that you decide to take matters into your owns hands. It's okay. We've all been there. As long as you don't make a regular habit of it, a good administrator is going to understand the situation and try to help everyone involved through it.
It's good to keep in mind though that no matter how right you think you are, how trivial you think the arguing is, that the only true solution is to try and talk things through, and, should that fail, to get a mediator involved to help settle the dispute. If you are unhappy with the mediator results, you are even free to start up a forum to try and gather a community consensus.
2)Talk-pages: If you find yourself in a situation where you're having to message another user to discuss their edits, please make sure to remain as civil as possible during the exchange. Even if your civility is not reciprocated, it's going to make it easier for mediators to understand your side if you're not the one losing your composure. Please also note that at no time are you allowed to remove or modify messages on talk-pages, even if they're your own. If a user leaves you a particularly nasty message, and you wish for it to be removed, please contact an administrator first who will look into your available options.
As a community, we especially like to see our users helping each other out and giving advice. There is never anything wrong with gently explaining an error another user has made, and how they can amend it, nor is there anything wrong with pointing them towards any rules that they might have missed reading. If you are not a moderator or administrator, however, please be careful about using a patronizing/authoritative tone, as it's not your job to warn or even threaten others, and doing so can often makes matters exponentially worse.
3)Compromise: Two of the core principles here at Nukapedia, are that of cooperation and compromise. If someone disagrees with you, or they say that you've offended them, it's not necessarily your place to tell them that they're wrong in how they feel. These are usually good opportunities for a wider discussion with the community, and you can even create a user blog or discussion forum to get more people involved.
Every single time you make an edit, whether it's on an article, forum, or talk-page, there's going to be a box to the right of your screen that says 'Subject/headline:,' where you can add what's called an edit-summary to explain the additions you're making. While this may come across at first as a minor and even useless feature, it's going to be one of the most important tools at your disposal to help avoid conflicts with other users.
Whether you're making large-scale re-writes or you're modifying dubious information, edit-summaries are going to be your way to explain the edits that you're making that may not be obvious to other editors otherwise. It especially makes the lives of our Patrollers easier, who's job it is to check and verify every edit made.
Edit-summaries are not, however, meant for snarky messages. Please use them for constructive purposes only, as we'd rather see no edit-summary from you rather than a negative one.
Minor edits & condensing them
There are going to be times when editing an article, where there's really not all that much you can do to improve it except maybe to fix a comma there, a misspelled word there, etc. In these case, you'll notice that there will be a button to the right of your screen, 'Minor edit,' that you should be clicking for exactly those kind of edits, and you should be clicking it every time that it's necessary.
On top of that, it's considered bad practice to make multiple minor edits to the same article within a short period of time. Unless you're tackling a large article, please try to keep your changes down to a single edit at a time per article, as it can be considered spam or even edit-boosting to make, for example, 15 edits to the same article within 10 minutes.
1) Complete another 300 (non-minor) article edits -
2) Continue to use edit-summaries as often as possible, and especially so regarding any TVA specific edits - 3) Show 10 examples of you properly handling user disputes, whether your own or another user's - 4) Create either a blog or discussion forum seeking community consensus over a debated topic on the wiki -
5) (Optional) Move any potential discussion to a vote, if necessary -
You have been given yet another flamingo for your outstanding work as my mentor.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
To commemorate the graduation of your first guinea pig and the end of our long distance relationship. Time for me to stand on my own feet. It was truly enchanting while it lasted 💓🙏 --FindabairThe benefit of the doubt is often doubtful.
The fact that Cannibal Johnson is carrying a hunting rifle is not relevant to the layout of his cave. And such things are generally done by other editors attempting to skirt the notable loot policy. Great Mara (talk) 07:19, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
You did spend a lot of time on the FNV mo locations. Then I suppose revert my edit on the FNV locations page, but leave the other overview pages as they are. Generally my opinion is they aren't notable enough for the overview pages, but ok. Jspoel 11:15, October 6, 2020 (UTC)
This might not be the correct place for this (I am new to the world of Fandoms and the world of the Nukapedia), but I would like to know your opinion on this, Is it possible that Donny Kowalski is Private Kowalski of the NCR's son? I mean it could be possible given that Fallout 4 takes place 7 years after Fallout New Vegas and Donny looks and sounds to be about 7 years old or a little younger. Maybe Donny is short for Donald and he could be named after his deceased uncle Donald Kowalski, given that is if Donny is Private Kowalski's son after all. Also thanks for your work on this wiki, it has helped a lot. Also if it wouldn't be a problem, do you think it would be possible to find information on this topic or help me find information? Thanks again for all your work on this wiki. --DawgEngineer03 (talk) 17:38, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your message! And I'm glad you liked my profile. I do have some questions about this wiki however, mainly I'm just worried about editing and such. I'm not sure what I'm aloud and not aloud to fix or change. I've mainly stuck with The Brotherhood because it explicitly said that it needed fixing.--—Preceding unsigned comment added by Isis The Masked Dragon (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~! 19:02, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
Hey Kate, seeing as you have an interest in locations and pre-war roads and stuff, maybe you could help firmly place the real-world equivalent of the city of Los from Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. The wiki currently says it is the city of Los Ybanez but the talk page both on the wiki and on The Vault Gamepedia seems to dispute that with someone on the Gamepedia even creating a callout video on the subject Here Slipmcripfist (talk) 04:09, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
I added some refs to the page from the game guide and cleaned it up a bit. Let me know what you think. -kdarrowtake her for a spin! 01:55, October 19, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the attention to that, it looks much better and removes the ambiguity of before. Slipmcripfist (talk) 04:14, October 19, 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply but I'm ready to get started. I'm online an time from 12:00 noon to 3:00. We'll have to use Talk Pages because I don't have discord, hope that isn't an issue.
Ad Victorian!--Isis (talk) 18:36, October 14, 2020 (UTC)
VTA lesson 2 quiz 1
I finished the 2-1 quiz but I'm wondering, is there an easier way to determine if something is a file or not. They only reason I figured it out was because file was the only answer left.
Ad Victorian!--Isis (talk) 18:04, October 15, 2020 (UTC)
Kate, that punkin is beautiful. Definitely made me smile when I restlessly checked my phone at 6 AM to see I had a talk page notification. It's in quite the lovely locale as well, with that marvelous dodecahedronal lamp and all sorts of Fallout books nearby. I do not have paints or a pumpkin of my own, nor do I have the means to acquire one, otherwise I would certainly whip up its twin "I <3 kdarrow" to grace the shelves in my room. What's TIW mean in the filename though? I can only assume it means "Tacos in Winter," to go along with your burrito cravings from earlier. Once again, excellent gift. I will move it to my user page post-haste where it can forever be on display. - Sigmund FraudTalkContributions 13:44, October 29, 2020 (UTC)
Hi Kate! You seem really cool do you like Fallout 4 at all?
ImMrMeeseeks1232 (talk) 19:15, October 29, 2020 (UTC)