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Help[edit source]

Hey Jspoel, havent spoken in a while, but i was just wondering if there was any help that you needed to do with Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas? It's just that I havent been editing for a while now, and would like to be more active on the wiki. Please message back if so. --Jackasaurus 16:25, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Moderation[edit source]

I'm going to have it where someone will bring up a point thoroughly and only when they're finished can people give their thoughts on the matter. Only one person at a time so it doesn't turn into a huge chaotic mess. Let me know if you have any preferences on how things are run at the meetings. Dragon.jpg Skål! 19:05, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

1st meeting is currently in a little less than 30 hours from now. Dragon.jpg Skål! 19:16, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re:[edit source]

Thanks for thinking of me, J. You guys take your time. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 18:29, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

Admin[edit source]

Thanks so much to you and Clyde for giving me the green light on this! I can't express how happy and relieved I am. There's still room to improve, but I will execute my duties to the best of my ability. Once again, thanks. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 20:25, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

By the way, my bar isn't displaying correctly. It still reads "Moderator", probably due to it being a specialised one. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 20:33, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
Oh ok. Thanks again. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 20:55, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

Favor[edit source]

Can I ask you for one? I am currently looking for 4 images for a pet project of mine. When a talking head comes up in FO1/2, they show up on a sort of miniature television. (As you already know.) I am just looking for the cut out images of the vacuum tubes on the left side and the speaker on the right side. I am also looking for the vent and the review button found to the left of the dialogue tree and the Barter/Tell me about/Vault logo to the right of the dialogue tree. Dragon.jpg Skål! 03:08, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yep[edit source]

The new wiki nav bar is cool. I'm used to it as well. As for the chat proposals, looks like they got shot down. --Kingclyde 18:43, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Achievement message[edit source]

I don't know if this is a used achievement, but as I was looking for something else, I came upon MediaWiki:Achievements-badge-name-welcome. It still says "The Vault". I don't know if this needs to be changed or not. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 20:38, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, J. I really can't tell much about either issue, since I can't get "under the hood" so to speak, and I'm also still pretty limited in knowledge. But it is real interesting to learn some more behind the scenes stuff about how this place works :). The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 21:16, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

User conduct[edit source]

I think we need to make it a point to clarify that the Fallout Wiki:User conduct guideline applies to chat as well. Cartman used this in an argument as that it only applies to the editing side of things, which is incorrect. How hard is it really to interpret simple rules? What do you think?--Kingclyde 21:34, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Huh? I didn't say anything about chat at all >_> --User:Cartman!User talk:Cartman! 22:45, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
"Assume good faith: Do your best to assume that other editors are trying to help unless you have evidence to the contrary. Accidents happen, and not everybody has a lot of experience with editing a wiki. "
If this is what you're referring to... this is definitely about edits and the final sentence confirms that, it doesn't mean I can't assume bad faith when strangely coincidental biased voting occurs. --User:Cartman!User talk:Cartman! 22:48, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
Whilst there is nothing wrong with Cartman's interpretation, its not the only way to interpret it. To me, the rule is the bold bit on the page, and the non bold stuff whilst helps guide it, doesn't necessarily limit the rule.
In any case there are 4 main methods to interpret statutes, and if we accept Cartmans proposition that the bold bit is a part of the rule and must be read along with it (Which I guess follows best the Literal rule - Basically it says what it says and thats all it says), I think the mischief rule is more appropriate, the rule is there to stop a certain behaviour (Namely discourage disputes over misunderstandings in ambiguous statements and actions) and thus can be applied in chat, fora, talk pages, etc already. Agent c 23:03, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
Again I'm just going to have to say no. If we read the rule alone it talks about editors and editing only and ends with "Accidents happen, and not everybody has a lot of experience with editing a wiki" which I consider pretty clear and literal. But if we do actually examine the rule as well as the section, you'll notice that it's in a section addressing editors with such guidelines as "do not start an edit war" which, quite clearly, applies to editing. You'll also notice that "talk and forum pages" have their own rules section entirely. We really don't need to start over-complicating this especially when it quite clearly states in itself that it is referring to editing conduct in regard to accusations of vandalism. The attempts to incriminate me are simply going too far when people are trying to paint me as a bad guy for pointing out a coincidence on a forum vote in "bad faith". --User:Cartman!User talk:Cartman! 23:32, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
Hey J. Just a friendly reminder: the new nav bar poll is finished. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 21:56, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Favour[edit source]

Just realized how vague I was before. So, something like this with each of the sides outside of the character portrait and dialogue tree cut out to fit in the left and right columns here. You can find what I'm working on under the 1st experiment. Dragon.jpg Skål! 06:33, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

I really appreciate that, and they both turned out perfect on my experiment. I can always rely on you, especially when it comes to images. :D Hate to bother you more over this, but I was wondering if I could get two more sides cut out? The ones that contain the barter/tell me about buttons on the right side and the review button and the (vent?) on the left side. Dragon.jpg Skål! 16:50, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks again! Check out my sandbox if you get the chance and tell me what you think so far. Columns are giving me a little trouble, but I don't think we have any more forgiving templates that I can take advantage of. :P Dragon.jpg Skål! 18:29, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
I would really appreciate it! This is giving me a good learning experience for how templates work and how to size things up properly. Right now I'm teaching myself how to even create a backdrop. :P Hmm. I think all it needs is a little more height and that would be perfect. Stretch them out any more and it'll cut off part of the VA-table. Dragon.jpg Skål! 19:06, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
It looks pretty damn good! It was a little too big to have speakers on both sides at SNM, as it cut it out half way through, but I just went ahead and removed the second set as it looks fine with just one. As for my experiment, everything fits perfectly with no cut-outs. :) Dragon.jpg Skål! 19:45, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation[edit source]

I know, but every time I rename a page - like Rick to Rick (Fallout) and want to create a new page, it just leads me to the Rick (Fallout). Clicking several times rename wn't work as well, so I really don't now how to. MS: Destiny conquers all. 14:01, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for noting that. MS: Destiny conquers all. 14:15, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Nav Bar and more[edit source]

Hey Jspoel. Sorry for the confusion on the user rights change proposal, these changes have been really getting to me recently and I had to reread it a few times. And also, I noticed we've kept the new nav-bar so far. I'm fine with it, but according to the poll, many members of the community see otherwise. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 19:11, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

And also, could you do me a favour and present me with an award for the weapon condition project? Like Kas, I think it's better if someone else did it. You can find one The Gunny's user page. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 19:15, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
I see. And how about Cartman's reconfirmation request? It seems like most people have had their say, so perhaps the poll time could be reduced? -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 19:31, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hi J, I'm putting together the news now. If you can gimme a shout on the plans for current votes that would be great. Agent c 19:46, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Let's roll it back to the old one. Maybe at another time we can try it again. I like it other than the fact that i have to be very careful when selecting things because it moves on me. But the community has spoken.--Kingclyde 20:05, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Transparency[edit source]

This is the last favor I have to ask of you! It's not very important though, and I'm definitely in no rush, so feel free to say no or take your time. :) I don't have the tools at my disposal to convert images into a transparent state, so I was wondering if you could help me out with that. The ones images I'm interested in would be these two: SNM banner.png | 683px-Strategic Nuclear Moose Logo PNG3- No Background.png Dragon.jpg Skål! 19:58, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what I'll do yet, but I'm going to have to come up with something to give you in return for your help. I'm very grateful for it. :) Dragon.jpg Skål! 20:50, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

User rights[edit source]

I closed the poll so we can rewrite it. I like you proposal but I mainly wanted to remove the moderator position as it does not exist. That was my main goal.--Kingclyde 20:43, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Forum[edit source]

I made the new forum header for votes specifically. That way the wiki discussion doesn't get clogged up. I answer a question in there that got buried by all the requests.--Kingclyde 21:01, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Chat me up, Baby.[edit source]

If you have a few spare moments, is there any chance I could have a quick word with you in chat? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 20:54, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Images[edit source]

Is it preffered having a character in game rather from the GECK? MS: Destiny conquers all. 08:40, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

I was out, but I will finish it up now as I see you are very close! Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 10:41, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
5 more?! So much for waiting around! ;) Anyhow, this is the best I could do with my day seen as my original idea went so wrong - as last time, if you don't like it, I shan't be offended as 1) it's for you, and 2) art is very subjective. Anyway, you can find it through here :) Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 22:56, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

75000![edit source]

Large wasteland tequila.png
You have been given a large bottle of Tequila.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 23:26, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
You have been given A citrus fruit..
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
What's tequila without lime, eh? MadeMan2.png "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
You have been given 3 quarters.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
For going three quarters of the way to 100k! (And to help pay for the tequila) -SigmaDelta54(Talk)

The ultimate editor[edit source]

Aha! I just happened to see that, and that guy makes your 75k look like nothing hehe. Fortunately, he is a bot. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 00:32, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

The Terminator series? :P Perhaps you should consider that option, although I think you're bot enough ;) -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 00:42, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
But bots should compare with bots ;) -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 01:03, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Nice going on the 75,000 edit, if you can reach 100,000 (who am i kidding im sure you can) i'll whip up a fancy present.Aaaaa.jpgTheNemesisx 14:39, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Chat[edit source]

Can you come into chat for a moment? I've run into a big problem. Dragon.jpg Skål! 18:45, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Person articles[edit source]

I didn't realise there was a {{Image-RW}} template, but I went back and changed all those, anything else? -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 01:43, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Welterusten! (If I did that right) -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 01:57, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad to hear that. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 18:43, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and it seems my little message to Sannse has been taken quite seriously eh? -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 18:45, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the chat header. It really isn't that big of a deal but hey! -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 18:51, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Issue with the Chat name[edit source]

Hi Jspoelstra. This isn't an issue in your wiki's JS but the name has been cached on our server. I believe this is because the Chat has never been empty since the sitename was changed, so the Chat room hasn't been "recreated" with the name Fallout Wiki. I'm passing this on to the team responsible for Chat to see how it can be fixed. :) Cheers, grunny:~$ 13:04, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Possibly. That's just my theory based on some quick testing, so if you're willing to try that, have everyone leave and then join after everyone has left for a little while, it might fix it. If it doesn't, then we'd have to wait until one of the engineers who works on chat to get back to me. Cheers, grunny:~$ 13:12, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good, I have to go to school now, so I won't be a problem:) Kicking was the only way I could think to get the away people out, let's hope it works:)--Bunny2.jpgBubble.png 13:54, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

GhostAvatarBot still seems to be in there if you can kick it out for the test. :) Cheers, grunny:~$ 14:25, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
Disabled chat via Special:WikiFeatures for 30 mins, just in case I forget to reactivate it. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 14:40, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
Nope, that didnt work. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 15:10, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Disabled chat[edit source]

Oki doki loki, thanks for notifying me. Hugs MadeMan2.png "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Lucky Horseshoes[edit source]

Hi About Lucky Horseshoes with Festus at Fallout: New Vegas. It says there is no way for draw, yet it can end with scores i.e. 22-20, 25-17, etc. In which case both are equally close to 21, and it doesn't bumb up one at that point. Festus itself didn't mention about this, but when I got that situation few times myself, to me it seemed like the bigger would be the winning one; in mentioned cases 22 and 25. I first tryed checking here but didn't find anything about it, and small things bothers my mind. Just though to mention/ask if anybody here knows/'wants to confirm' the correct answer. I didn't have slightest of clue where to distress this subject at this fallout wikia, so I just gave a random shot to place it here. Advice me to do better if needed. --John Acey 16:11, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it works like that. Few scenarios: 1. Festus got first 25, and I then got 17. Festus then decided to hold, so I decided to hold too. Where Festus said that if you hold now you lose, so let's just pretend you drew, and gave me a card. Which was a 10, so either Festus is a cheater.. 2. I first got 26, and then Festus got 16, I holded on 26 but Festus drew more, he then got 8 and won me with 24. To me it seems like if players get equally close with lower and bigger, then the one that got there first has the advantage, no matter if he has the lower or the bigger. I'm playing PC version. --John Acey 10:55, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Great Mara[edit source]

Hey Jspoel. I just realised: Great Mara only has rollback, not patroller rights. I thought since he's categorised as a "patroller", and even has the recognition and bar, he should be given the official patroller rights too. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 19:18, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, he's an old-timer ;) fighting vandalism since February 2011. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 19:26, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Restock the Molerat Caves[edit source]

Hey Jspoel, I was wondering, where did you find this quest? I looked through the design documents, the one on here and the actual one you can download. I'm just bringing it up, because normally, unless it's specifically in the design document we don't add it. ToCxHawK 22:11, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Ahh ok, I totally missed it. Thanks. ToCxHawK 22:29, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Mark 2[edit source]

This one is a party on the strip, you might like it more - there are even never-before-coloured VBs! :) Check it out on your page, if the cache has updated for you. Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 18:25, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

No comment, eh? ;) Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 22:26, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
Good, I'm glad you like it. Took me a fair while, and the concept was difficult too. Personal favourite is the drunk VB under the street lamp threatening someone from afar! ;) Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 12:30, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Chris[edit source]

Hi Jspoel. I moved the original Chris page appropriately to make room for a disambiguation page. There are 25 "Chris"s, so I think that qualifies. Your subsequent revert caused some confusion, but I fixed everything, it should be fine now. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 00:54, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Noooooo[edit source]

Where is chat O_o User talk:Miss.Nicolle"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 12:01, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Using the Info Boxes for videos[edit source]

Hey, I need some information on something, I know you're pretty high up here but if you're not the person I need to go to with this please direct me in the right direction.

I make youtube videos, and my main content is playthroughs. I finished a playthrough of Fallout 3 and enjoyed making it very much. I plan on doing a playthrough of Fallout: New Vegas in the summer when I have more time for such a large project.

For this playthrough I have decided to go more in depth with the information I show, I plan on creating bios for all the unique weapons to go on screen while I'm talking about them, rather than just standing still and looking at the sky/ground in-game.

For these, I want to put damage stats and other information along with picture I take from the capture card in-game. I like the design for info boxes on your pages so much that I thought I would just crop a screenshot of them directly into the bio itself. Of cource, I would credit the website on screen and leave a link the video description directly to the website and specific page.

My question is: would I be allowed to do this? If so, what procedures would I need to go through?

Thanks, - Puddy =]

--Matsudiro 17:44, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

The Cuckoo's Nest[edit source]

Hey Jspoel. Are you sure that's really notable? I realised it's the only one not found on an NPC, but lobotomites are quite easy to kill. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 20:34, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Sorry about that, I forgot. It's just that I've been categorising so many user page images that it didn't occur to me that I needed to copyright that one ;) I'll be sure to remember next time. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 21:58, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re:The Worst Doctor Ever[edit source]

You're right. But I didn't think there'd by any links to such an arbitrary, subjectively-titled page. I'll keep it in mind. -SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 21:39, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hey J. I need you mediate a little admin disagreement between Garoux and I. We're trying to decide on whether a single note in a "notes" or "behind the scenes" section should deserve a bullet point. For example, see this page. -SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 21:53, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
Aighty then. Thanks. And could you check your email real quick? -SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 22:18, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Shatty555[edit source]

Are you sure about removing that? I mean, I don't like it, but it's his user page after all. And it isn't insulting anyone else (limited to being either self-demeaning or facetious). -SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:26, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I'm very sorry about that. I thought he added it himself. My apologies. -SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:40, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

FO 1 and 2 badges.[edit source]

J, what happened to the Fallout 1 and 2 badges here on the wiki? I must've done over at least 50 edits on the original Fallout characters, and no badge has appeared so far. Same for Fallout 2.

--Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 06:36, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Concept art[edit source]

Hi Jspoel. What copyright license should I put for concept art (like the Chevy Chase ones you just added)? SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 14:46, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Cartman![edit source]

Hey Jspoel. Just a quick reminder - Cartman's reconfirmation request ended yesterday, I'm sure the community is anxious to hear the final decision from you and Clyde. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 17:42, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... looks like you guys have agreed on it. After the last few votes, I knew it was going to happen. I certainly don't agree with it, but others definitely do. Hopefully this won't affect things too much beyond this. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:27, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Why do we even have votes if you and Clyde are just gonna do what you want? I'm very disappointed in this decision Jspoel, and I really hope you guys didn't do it just because you don't like Cartman. BILLYOCEAN Wanna talk? 00:44, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Attempted backroom deals[edit source]

Check this out:

  • Tranquility Lane- the Fallout fanfiction wiki

I noticed that the Fallout fan fiction wiki associated with The Vault has not been moved away from Wikia. In addition, I have also noticed that they seem to be actively displaying a large link to Wikia's Nukapedia on their main page, Nukapedia being Wikia's greedy pseudo plagiarized attempt to steal users away from us by maintaing a mirror of the old Vault.

I could setup a wiki at Wikkii.net wiki hosting, which is basically the same features as setting up your own wiki with a professional web hosting company. We could also use our same falloutwiki.com domain name with it. I can go ahead and set it up if you'd be interested. All I'd really need here is for the link to the fanon wiki on the main page to be changed to the new one since they're apparently stabbing us in the back.

There's also a need to move the wiki away from Wikia, since their skin is hard to use, hard to read, hard to navigate, and they've apparently decided to sellout the wiki background as advertising space, meaning that every user sees meaningless kitsch on every page of the wiki, which just degrades it's content.

Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein aus Sturmkrieg Sektor (Contributions) (Edit Count) 02:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Anyways, I think we need to keep an eye on this user in case they get the funny idea to continue with their plan of stealing and then converting content over from the Wikia variant to a Curse variant. Dragon.jpg Skål! 04:02, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Unarmed special attacks[edit source]

Hey, Js, I'd like your input on the new section I'm looking at for FONV unarmed weapons. I wanted to run it by you before I start adding it to all the pages. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 15:43, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Redid the section, and added the extra info to Unarmed#V.A.T.S. Special Attacks. That looks better to me. You can check the same link as above. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 23:05, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Stubs[edit source]

Roger that. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 21:09, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I've finished going through the FO3 stubs, reducing it to around 10 pages (started out at around 45). I filled in information, fixed up, and reorganised pages, and for the ones that I couldn't add more in I left as stubs. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 21:51, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Integrity[edit source]

I'm always keeping a vigilant eye out for our wiki. Not much escapes my gaze. ;) Can you come into chat for a moment? I want to run a re-opening proposition for an old project idea. Wanted to talk to you and Clyde first before writing it up next time I have a free moment. Dragon.jpg Skål! 23:13, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Flare[edit source]

I moved the Flare (Fallout) page to Flare (Fallout and Fallout 2), since Mystery merged those pages earlier today. Now the links on the overview pages need updating. But before we go with that, what do you think? About the moving, article titles, and such? SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:22, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I thought that was a little impractical too, so I came to you. I think it's better this way, saved us a lot of trouble. Thanks. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:05, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Wellesley[edit source]

Just added it to the page. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 19:31, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Your goal[edit source]

I think you might want to find this statistic intersting - 3.863.683 is the number logged users! MS: Destiny conquers all. 20:49, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

At the home page, click the number in the sentence "A Fallout wiki with 15,301 articles" after the "Welcome to the Fallout Wiki" sentence- there are some statistics you might find interesting. The number of logged users is a proof that your task is going well. MS: Destiny conquers all. 21:05, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Quick question[edit source]

Hi Jspoel. Could you tell me what __TOC__ means and what it does? SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:00, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for explaining that! SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:15, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Png pics.[edit source]

Jspoel, I thought we should have .jpg pics instead of .png ones in the infoboxes. I added a picture of Little Bobby yesterday, and you replaced it with a .png one.

--Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 17:54, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Get it. Thanks,

--Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 18:48, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

A scenario in which[edit source]

your Dutch nationality can come into great use here! Would you mind taking a look at this edit for me and decide whether or not it is valid? SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 18:44, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

That's what I thought! "Lost heap" didn't make much sense to me. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 19:12, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

what did i do to get banned yesterday? so i guess now we cant do any edits???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tunnle snakes RULE!!!!!!! (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Re:How Little We Know[edit source]

I can hop on FNV later but I'm a bit busy now with schoolwork. What specifically do you need me to do? I can't take screenshots because I'm on Playstation 3Icon ps3.png. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 22:13, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

the reason i still added 6 was because i didnt read the message you sent me in time

Talk about luck[edit source]

Hey Jspoel, just a fun little thing I found: this guy's one single edit here was the 437,000th edit, giving him the 10 point of luck badge! SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:06, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

whats the limit to notes??

Allright, I was being too kind eh? And look at you teaching me English ;) Both he/she and "they" are acceptable, but I prefer he/she, since using "they" in place of a singular noun is technically grammatically incorrect, although it's been used in English for a long time now. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 23:43, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Out of interest[edit source]

What did the Dutch first refer to the 'New World' as as far as you know? Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 20:16, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the Americas, though Columbus discovering it is debatable: what's not is that he was pure evil and a sorry excuse for a human being, but do go on? ;) Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 20:22, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
Okay thanks J, I wasn't sure if you'd have had a different name to us at the earliest stage, and just wanted to check. Thanks for the help, and sorry for wasting your time Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 20:37, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Brotch's class[edit source]

Do you think that Mr. Brotch's class is a Fallout 3 faction? MS: Destiny conquers all. 20:33, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Licence[edit source]

Your wish is my command. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 21:15, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Quick question[edit source]

I noticed in the original Fallout there is a world object called "mutated cabbage." I was wondering if I should post that in the Fallout and Fallout 2 world objects page, or if I should make it a page of its own? I have a screenshot already of the cabbage. I just wanted your opinion of what to do with it. TrailerParkApe TPA 07:31, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Pictures.[edit source]

Thanks, J! It's my pleasure!
About the crosshairs, they were just stylistic elements to indicate that the quest was about killing a certain character or "disposing" of them, as the name of some of the quests are. But if they're not adequate, I'll keep in mind not to let them in the picture frame. ;-)
I'd also like to ask you how the licensing works, so I could do that and save you some time and trouble, since you have to go out there correcting my mistakes in the articles and filling them all with copyright details.
Other than that, thanks a lot for the support. I'll certainly help more with the pictures, since it's one of my missions here at Nukapedia.
See you later, mate! Cheers!

--Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 18:03, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Chatmod rights[edit source]

Hi Jspoel. I really appreciate the gesture to restore my chat mod rights, but I'm afraid I'll have to decline. If I ever do come back to this website as a regular member, and that's a big if, I'd more than likely stick to editing. As fun as chat is, it's not the main focus of this site. So again, I'm grateful that you restored my chat mod rights, but I'll have to respectfully decline. Thank you. Yes Man default.pngUser Avatar talk.png 23:08, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Common House[edit source]

I'm adding the {{PAGENAME}} templates as per the project page. Are we not using that template for anything anymore? Because I always see you removing those. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 00:01, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I totally understand that, but you must understand that I'm not adding those as a shot out of a cannon. The project page states that for the infoboxes to be marked as complete, they must have all of the infobox parameters listed on said page. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 00:06, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 00:29, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Will do. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 00:50, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
RAAAGH I feel so stupid. No one tells me anything ._. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 00:56, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Trust me, I'm working to undo everything right away. I feel like a total dick for this raising my edit count and having gotten me two 100 point achievements, but it has to be done. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 01:05, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Jesus Christmas, I really screwed the pooch on this one, didn't I? -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 01:26, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

FO3 locations infobox fixing[edit source]

Hey Jspoel, if you need my help on anything I'm free now. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:04, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm on it. And if Jspoel's shouting for help, it's serious. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:18, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I've just noticed that too. I think I can manage with the template documentation and Tocino's talk page. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:20, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I just finished them all. Hopefully it's all good now. If you need anything else just give me a shout. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 02:17, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Got it. How about "Other"? I've seen quite a few of those and left it there, although there's usually no data for that field. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 02:29, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

The Jerk[edit source]

I noticed you going through Point Lookout again. While you're still there would you mind getting an image for The Jerk? You can find it across from the Homestead Motel and next to A Cuppa Joe. Thanks. --Kastera (talk) 04:10, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks man. It's nice of you to help. --Kastera (talk) 16:23, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Unused images[edit source]

Sure, that'll be easy enough. Are these automatically generated or do they contain the {{Unused}} template? SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 13:35, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, how much time should I give them until they are deleted? (For people to incorporate them into an article/user page) SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 13:38, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough. I can handle it, and maybe MS could too when he gets his rights. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 13:41, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Favour[edit source]

Hai, Cappy J, I've got a favour to ask of you, if it's not too much. I'm doing a school project and I'm wondering, what stereotypes about Sweden have you got in the Netherlands? Hugs MadeMan2.png "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Ok, thanks a lot, J! This'll be perfect. Hugs MadeMan2.png "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Patrolling application.[edit source]

Hello, Jspoel!
As you know, I'm George (aka Crimson Frankie). I've been contributing to the wiki for 31 days now. I'm currently leading two projects(the Fallout 1 and 2 Quotations Project and the Fallout 2 areas and evironment project), and my editcount has got over 1000 (with more than 750 edits dedicated to articles). I have a friendly relationship with everybody here, and I've also partnered with some users for project purposes. Over the last couple of days, some notable members have personally suggested that I applied for patroller, and through this message I'd like to do so. With the position of a patroller, I would be able to 1. Help the community even more; 2. Learn massively as an editor; 3. Replace Mystery Stranger, who is most definitely going to be promoted to Administrator, and the wiki will miss one patroller after that.
I hope you consider my points, and honestly, I still don't know that much about doing what a patroller does, but that's why the words "learning" and "practising" exist. All I want is to grow here, and especially help the wiki keep being what it was to me back when I used to be an anon looking for additional information on the Fallout lore. My focus and utmost passion are the older games, so I'm especially willing to work on improving info on them here.
If you say yes, I'll be very much pleased. If you say no, I'll understand your position and wait a bit more for another opportunity.
--Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 00:41, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

J, I thank you very much for the trust you've placed onto me. I'll try and do my best to return the good will in the form of frequent edits, more pics (by the way, I've just added about 6 of them; FO 1 and 2 articles are getting even more visual now ;-)), and good patrolling.
Cheers, --Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 07:23, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re:FNV DLC Icons[edit source]

Yeah, I just noticed that. I might have to change some so they are smaller again. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 16:59, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hey I saw all those map images you got for FO3 locations. Good job, if it means much from me ;) SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 22:11, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
Hehe... did you plan this out from day one or something? I'll be there two congratulate you on this 4-in-one-77777th-edit thing xD SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 22:42, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations! I wish I could see the 4-in-1 badge screen though. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:34, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm... that would've been nice to see. I like the square frame for the Saviour of the Damned badge, looks really nice. Was it only 100 points? It should be a lot more, not that you'd need it: no one is even close to you on the achievement board :) SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:50, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

( Ah yes, well deserved :) I'll get that one in around 310 more days hahaha SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:58, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Jubelee![edit source]

Can you come into chat? This requires a little privacy for now. Dragon.jpg Skål! 22:49, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

365[edit source]

Hey, congrats on your work on the wiki! You must very proud.

It appears I require your help (once again) - too many images on the New Reno citizen article. Could you merge those images? MS: Destiny conquers all. 19:51, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Images[edit source]

Hi J. Quick question: as I was deleting those images yesterday I was wondering what was wrong with all those map images. They seemed fine, with only minor positional differences. I noticed you're replacing them all. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 21:51, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Oh what the- I do not remember you telling me that yesterday. I thought they were superseded. Sorry about that :( SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 21:59, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Gecko[edit source]

Ok, gonna erase this now.

Moriarty[edit source]

Thank you for the information. It won't happen again. The Enclave shall prevail! 00:00, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Sentry bot (Fallout 3)[edit source]

That's very strange, I don't remember doing that at all (I have no good reason to want to remove valid concept art). I only fixed part of the {{For}} template. Must've been an accident, albeit very unusual... Sorry anyway. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 13:04, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Unmarked locations from numerous radio signals[edit source]

Hey, do we still need to create some extra location pages for the numerous radio signals in Fallout 3? The radio signals from the broadcast towers? Or upload images of the inside-look of the drainage chambers, with a local map from the Pip-Boy instead? Vault boy joker by forarkan-d33uxps (1).png "Game's rigged from the start."

Inactive moderators[edit source]

Hey J, I noticed we don't have a "Inactive Moderator" rights icon like we have for admins, so I went ahead and created one. Hope that's okay. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 18:38, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Administrator request[edit source]

Ah, I have yet to thank you - for anything you taught me (especially before deleting redirected links before creating the disambig pages). Wish I had participated to one of the other projects before, I could have just added info with other participants... MS: Destiny conquers all. 19:33, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

As Guardian told me, I should ask you to update the CSS so that it will be only Admin status. Will you do it? MS: Destiny conquers all. 20:26, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Well, before was the message: 'I would've prefered Mysterious Stranger, but it is shorter. Anyway, I prefer this name since I'd like to be popular when the time is right.' - so, I guess that goal is achieved. That's it, thanks for your time. MS: Destiny conquers all. 20:53, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Legion Banned Chems[edit source]

I figure if anyone knows this it would be you, but after searching I can not find any reference to the lists of chems banned by Caesar's Legion. Do you know of anyplace on the wiki this information would be? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 22:14, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the links. I see two interesting things: The chems page does not list all of the "chems", like Daturana, etc. while it does list Yao guai meat. The page defines "chems" as "any chemical, medicinal or otherwise, used to cause changes in a person's behavior or biological systems". Should things like dark datura and healing poultices not be listed? And secondly, not all "chems" are banned by the Legion. I can pull the list of banned and not banned chems from the GECK. Does having this info somewhere (Where? Maybe the Chem page with a link to it on the Caesar's Legion page?) seem like a good idea? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 22:40, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
Still looking for a little guidance on where to put the Legion approved medicinal chems list, and what should be done with the chems overview page. I'll copy the chems page to my sandbox, add all the non-listed chems and you can see if you approve the additions before I change the page. How's that sound? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 16:01, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
OK. The new chem list in [[User:The Gunny/sandbox2|on my sandbox]].

Re:Trollface Icon[edit source]

As much as I detest it, they are using it as an emoticon in chat. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 23:34, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

So far it hasn't been used improperly, and since most people who know how to use emoticons in the first place are known regulars I don't think there's much risk of that happening anyway. We could have it temporally as a trial period, and if it starts causing trouble we can easily remove it at any time. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 23:37, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think enough people are aware of its existence for that to happen. As Limmie said, only a few regulars know about it as of now. If it causes problems I'll be first to delete it. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 23:46, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Very interesting. It's a good comparison :) SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 23:57, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon sounds[edit source]

A question relayed from my talk page: "Hi, is there a reason why some audio samples of guns can't be replayed but others can? For example the .45 SMG audio can be replayed, but the Gatling Laser can't. Thank you in advance--The Leaping Eagle 14:43, April 21, 2012 (UTC)" SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 14:47, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Map marker categorizing[edit source]

I'll keep that in mind. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 15:49, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Wanted pages[edit source]

Hey Js, do you know why there are wanted pages for skill magazines for games that don't have them? It says the Skill Magazines page is linking to them but there are no such links there. Toodles~ Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 20:54, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Zerginfestor[edit source]

You can look at the messages Gunny sent him, he helped with testing and developing the formulae for the project. All in all, it was a lot more than some of those who were listed as participants. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:31, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you know Jspoel, I have been helping within the weapon project, along with edits upon weapons as well. Granted I haven't put the effort of posting what I did with Gunny on the Weapon Condition Project, but I more then ever helped him with it. You may talk to him and me in chat or upon the talk page here if you have doubts, for me and him have been calculating the weapon's damage, condition, and even the SPREAD of weaponry. I basically tested them out upon game console, not even using the GECK, by doing rough human testing, firing a specific weapon from 100% condition down to the very 0%, counting every shot and tallying them before coming back to Gunny about the results, sometimes doing this 3-4 times because of human error.--Zerginfestor 01:41, April 22, 2012 (UTC)Zerginfestor
Zerg helped me verify all the durability formulas for FO3 And FNV by game testing. Even though he may not have edited the pages for the project, he was instrumental in helping me nail down the formulas so we wouldn't have to game test every single weapon. He's my go-to guy for helping with game testing. Without his help, the project would not have progressed as fast as it did. He or I should have added his name to the project page, but in my view, he deserves the project medal. I'm gonna add his name ex post facto to ensure he gets the credit he deserves. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 13:44, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Quick reflection[edit source]

Hi J. I just wanted to take the time to share some thoughts. Looking back, I realise that it was you who has helped me out from my very first day of editing here, teaching me how to edit properly and effectively, and then furthering my editing skills. And now, I'm an admin. On my first days here, I never ever thought I'd get to where I am now, but you've inspired me to edit a lot, and taught me a ton. So I just want to formally say thank you. I sincerely appreciate all the help you've given me and I'm honoured to be your "apprentice" :) SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 02:52, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Top navigation[edit source]

Any idea what's happened to the top navigation? I'm not seeing our nav menus, but rather the standard wiki links? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 13:50, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

While we wait for Sannse, we could try stripping the unnecessary extra bullets from the MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation menu. It shouldn't need but single and double bullets, rather than the 3 & 4 we have now. I've edited it on [[User:The Gunny/sandbox2|my sandbox]], if you want to try pasting it in there. Perhaps that will work? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 14:13, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Holotapes[edit source]

Hello, you answered my question about the weapon sounds so I think I might leave this idea with you. Do you think we could do the same for holotapes? If you think this isn't a good idea, I understand. --The Leaping Eagle 14:32, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

No, I don't sorry. I'm sure someone, somewhere, does though... --The Leaping Eagle 20:08, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blocking[edit source]

It is difficult to understand. It appears I am (or was) a special case, some things wouldn't be here if I was to be blocked peenamently (which I was). I'd like that people "renew", like I did. Still, the user was given 1 week, (and lost the ability to edit talk page) after breaking 1 more rule. MS: Destiny conquers all. 17:53, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Good point. I'll try to be more... strict in my judgements. MS: Destiny conquers all. 18:11, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Skill magazines[edit source]

Unfortunately, we've already removed skill magazines from half of the FNV locations... Skill books are valid because they are a lot more rare than skill magazines in general. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 19:11, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Is there any reason to consider them notable though? Skill books are unique (they can be crafted only once after all), rare, and give a permanent bonus. Magazines OTOH have absolutely nothing going for them to be considered notable. They're not even that useful. If we are to accept them as notable we might as well start accepting chems like jet or psycho as well. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 19:15, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Like I told Sigma, I see "it's being here since X" as a completely invalid argument. If it's wrong then we remove it, and it's not like we haven't changed long standing policies before. So is assuming that notability transfers to items that are similar, it's no different than saying "I affiliate ordinary Nuka-Cola with Quantums and so they should be notable as well". Skill books are completely different from magazines in every aspect, from their uniqueness, rarity and usefulness and permanency of the effects. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 19:40, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but there is already a page with all of their locations listed. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 20:03, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
The FNV skill books have a page just like that too, making the argument invalid. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 20:07, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

That same argument could be extended to say mentats and other chems that boosts the SPECIAL. Also, by your argument, it would be more efficient to check the list Tocino pointed and search for the magazines of the specific skills you want instead of randomly browsing nearby the area's articles in hopes of finding a magazine of that particular skill you want to boost. There's no need to clutter up the articles with redundant non notable loot, specially if the other option is more efficient. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 20:14, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Looks like we've reached an impasse then. I think the best way to breach it is to bring in more people to the discussion, so I've set up a forum page to discuss it with the community. Hope to see your input there. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 22:31, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Skill mags[edit source]

Come into chat for a minute? -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 19:33, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Minor problem concerning FNV Weapon/Armor pages[edit source]

The Jury Rigging icon in the main table is no longer functioning properly and I have been unable to determine what is happening. Instead of showing the Jury Rigging icon they're all showing up as a large question mark icon. User:Great_MaraMessage 00:58, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

I already fixed this. There was something wrong with the {{Icon}} documentation where it lists available icons. Now the pages with the "?" image should update once edited. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 01:17, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Speculation rule[edit source]

Evening, I need to protest the current rule on gun speculation. The current rule boils down to "If the devs didn't say what it is, we don't know what the hell it is!" To me, this is outrageous. The internet has terabytes of data about firearms, this, coupled with wiki contributors who can tell the differences between them can easily identify what in-game weapon is based off of.

Some admins told me that we could be spreading mis-information if we allow free editing, but who is to say that the devs know what they are even talking about? The current rule sounds like the developers are the gods of weapon information, doling that out as they please. JE Sawyer himself was wrong about the Service Rifle, it is an M16A1, NOT an AR-15 as he described.

Also, if the rules say there is no speculation on the guns, then why is there speculation allowed on the pop culture reference pages? I've brought this up several times, but never received a straight answer.

All I ask is for you to look at the policy and consider revising it. If you are really worried about flame wars over "this gun is X instead of Y" consider this: the only people I fought to put the information up were the damn admins! Bearded Hoplite 02:24, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Operation: Sunburst[edit source]

Hello Mr. Jspoelstra, I was just looking around the vault when something caught my eye. The Operation: Sunburst page says that the NCR lost over 700 troops in one battle, and I think that number is ridiculous, because there are berley 700 NCR troops in the Mojave Wasteland. Personally, I think that it should say that the NCR losses were heavily, instead of putting out a random number. Since you are an administrator, I thought that you were the best person to be told about this. Thanks for listening LibertyPrime 03:22, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Image needed template[edit source]

Can you give me an example page please. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 16:11, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

OK I have tracked down the issue, it is because we did a complete overhaul of the whole mbox system from top to bottom. So to get it working you would have to import all associated templates, including the mbox base template. You may also require some of the CSS as well. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 16:53, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
It would probably be best to ask Porter, since I don't know how deep he went into all the aux templates etc. for the overhaul. But thing like this are going to get harder and harder as time goes on, due to template/CSS changes both here and at The Vault having an ever increasing chance of conflicting existing templates/CSS when imported. As you have experienced, its one thing to simply import a template, but it takes a whole lot more to then adjust those templates to work here based on the differences of the site and also its software. For example Wikia is running Mediawiki software 1.16.5, while are running the newer 1.18.2. That coupled with the fact that we have certain additional extension, some feature might not be possible for you guys. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 04:31, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Magazine locations[edit source]

Hi J. I noticed you were working all evening on detailing and adding locations of skill magazines (I'm sure with in-game exploration). All this would be done in vain if the vote results in the removal of them. I admire your hard work and don't want it to go to waste. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 22:56, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

I see. Well, let me know if I can be of assistance. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 23:11, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
I'm getting the GECK right now. I think it's about time I got it. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 23:28, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
There's an error. I might have to try again later or get help. SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 23:31, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Archive[edit source]

Sorry, for some reason I thought that was just the first one. No particular reason other than it seemed long. Agent c 01:36, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

The mighty Jspoel[edit source]

I saw that you got the Savior badge. Congrats. There was a time I considered myself eligible for that, ya know? I missed a day around 205 or so, though, and that was one of the final nails in the coffin for my activity around here. Anyways, I just threw in a few edits and it brought back memories of this summer, and I wanted to say hi. BILLYOCEAN Wanna talk? 21:42, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Medal.[edit source]

Hey, J, can you make the medal for the Fallout 2 areas and environments project that I led and finished last week? --Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 00:37, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Nah, man. Everybody likes a medal after a hard-worked project. It's not mere vanity; you know that. :-)
As for wikifying the inexistent links, I'll surely look into that as soon as I get my hands on fallout 1 and 2 again (which are installed in my other computer; I'll have access to it again tomorrow evening). The random encounters one will be hard, but that's when the real fun starts. ;-)
Cheers, mate!--Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 01:05, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, J, thanks for the medal! I'll start working on those redlinks soon, don't worry. ;-)
Cheers, --Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 20:15, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey man.[edit source]

Thanks Jspoel, sorry if you're cleaning up behind me, been up all day, tired as hell, and frustrated (listening to these fucking robots chatter at me while I'm forced to sit still and be shot like a target dummy just so I can write what I see on the screen from their quotes is NOT what I had in mind). Again thanks. BTW off-topic (I think), but why in the hell did they added a melee damage upon the machinery? So far none of them not even Mister Handy (and I just took note of it now after I got curious since they are the only robots that have a fucking melee weapon installed on them), and even they have it differently. Whoever designed these robots did a biiiig epic fail.--Zerginfestor 11:44, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Emikowolf[edit source]

Hey J, Was wondering if you can take a look at the screenshot DB's left on my talk page, and the link Ghost avatar's left on Emiko's. I haven't seen the log due to my current connection; but the screen shots I have seen and they suggest there might be something here a B/c should be seeing. Agent c 21:03, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hey J. Could you check your email real quick? --Skire (talk) 22:53, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Chat[edit source]

Hey Jspoel, I'm here doing some late-night chat monitoring and this user joined with a questionable username. Rather than ban him instantly, I've decided to report it and let an admin ('crat in your case) decide if it's inappropriate. Thanks! -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 04:09, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Situation has been resolved. The user made a different account and abandoned the other one. -- Bacon-Man Talk to me goose! 04:19, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Medal[edit source]

Hi J, do you have a "blank" for the medal I can use to create some new medals from? Thanks. Agent c 17:30, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thanks. Agent c 17:48, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal[edit source]

Hey J vandal for blocking :) http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/ Kiwi 3992205.png 19:34, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Ban GL[edit source]

After trolling another wiki and then insulting other editors here, that does indeed warrant a perma ban. And like I pointed out to Limmie, it is not stated anywhere in Wikia policies -not just Nukapedia policies- that such bans for anons are not allowed. And like I also mentioned, I've seen Wikia staff and VSTF global ban IP accounts before over CC. As for banning the most recent anon, I don't see the problem with it. Sorry to say, but when an anon comes to this wiki and the first edit they decide to make is one of blatant vandalism, why should I be lax on him? 2 weeks helps make sure that they never come back. A 2 hour ban? Even a 1 or 3 day ban? That's not really deterring them, is it? Dragon.jpg Skål! 19:51, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Like I mentioned on his talk-page, I'm tired of him threatening to leave all of the time. It doesn't really leave a warm and fuzzy feeling inside after hearing it so often. Dragon.jpg Skål! 23:19, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Chat[edit source]

Hey J could you drop by chat ASAP please? Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 23:17, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Images[edit source]

I think you've noticed that Lims has been adding images uploaded by users onto their talk pages. I'm not sure if this is good since there won't really be many unused files and the clutter is still there as long as those images remain on the talk pages. --Skire (talk) 13:44, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, makes sense. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 13:56, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Good news for a change[edit source]

Just noticed JE linked to us in his Formspring, so that means we're probably the wiki he uses :) Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 15:06, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Escalation[edit source]

This is in no way how I wanted things to turn out. But unfortunately, I am very opinionated. And in cases like these, I do my research before ever defending my points, which in turn tends to piss people off because I don't roll over and accept their point of view. And how could I have been banned? I didn't break any rules. The only insult I made was calling Klyde a glory-hound - and I had facts to back up that claim. Although I do admit that I should have taken into account that I should have brought in a mediator to defuse the situation. But on the other hand... if I had taken that into account, I would have been worried about any possible mediators just siding with the easiest solution of letting this drop. I want to detail my thoughts on the matter, and after this, I'd very much like this to be dropped as to not influence others to join in and exasperate things.

  • This particular anonymous user trolled 2 other wikis and doesn't have a sparkling history here as well. This same anonymous user has never made a true main article space edit.
  • I have looked into the whole perma-ban issue quite extensively since the fallout that resulted yesterday. I can find absolutely nothing that says I can't ban an anonymous user indefinitely. Klyde's argument turned out to be false, because while it says not to ban an anonymous user indefinitely on the Administrator policies page, it notes right underneath that it's actually a guideline. So this argument holds no merit, seeing as in how guidelines are only basic principles that are left up to interpretation. Not actual set rules we must abide by.
  • I'm afraid Klyde has let emotions take over. And this isn't the only time. He has not only constantly insulted me, and not just yesterday, but he has been bad-mouthing me through chat and going as far as using authoritarian circular logic to tell me that I am forbidden to do something which I absolutely have every right to do. And also, a bureaucrat doesn't have the power to go around making up rules just because they don't particularly like something. Remember these positions only being extra tools?
  • While Klyde stepped up as the leadership we needed in a time of desperate need, he has shown a great lack of loyalty towards this wiki. I've actually gone past counting on both hands when considering how many times he's threatened to leave this wiki over a small disagreement. I really hope he comes back, he's a great asset to this wiki. But threatening to leave? Around a dozen times? Not what I'm looking for in a leader.
  • Power abuse. He accused me of this and even threatened my position. And then he turns around and undermines my ban without consulting me first. Then he forbids me from banning obvious trolls, even though he doesn't have the power to do so. Then he goes into a rage in chat and gives Billy his chat mod rights back. I mean, come on.
  • And here's the most important point I'd like to mention. We perma-ban IP addresses all the time. Every time we perma-ban an account? We're perma-banning their IP also. So what I did is nothing new. But so far, no one has come up with a good counter-argument to this point I brought up. I'm even going to go as far as saying that no one has even attempted to argue this point. It's just been ignored.
Hope this clarifies a few things. And I also hope Klyde decides to come back and we can let this whole matter drop for the sake of stability. Dragon.jpg Skål! 20:12, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Van Buren[edit source]

Hey J, I just wanted to ask and see if you can take a look at this page and try to use it as an example when you make those quest pages. I just want to try and keep it as uniform as possible. Thanks ToCxHawK 00:55, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I don't have a real reason why, it's just how I did it to begin with and just kept doing it that way. ToCxHawK 01:43, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon infobox values[edit source]

I've been going through all the NV weapon infoboxes and I've noticed a number of them are not using the GECK value (cost in caps), with a note about the known "bug" that doesn't allow them to get up to GECK value when fully repaired. My OCD's kicking in here. Some pages have this info, some don't and use the GECK value. The infobox clearly states that value should be entered from the GECK. Should I change them, or leave them alone? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg.png 02:12, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal[edit source]

Got a live one here, Js: Special:Contributions/

Why did you edit my profile?[edit source]

Hey, I was wondering why you edited my profile? A few things got deleted too, like a youtube video I had. Thanks, TheScout201. TheScout201 18:00, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure[edit source]

So, I don't know if it will be. I might update tomorrow the "situation". MS: Destiny conquers all. 19:37, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Moderator[edit source]

Hi J, was wondering if you can clarify something for me.

As you know I've been considering the bump to moderator. I seem to be getting some conflicting info some of my encouragers suggesting I just need to ask for patroller rights, rather than run the gauntlet of a full mod vote. I was wondering what your thoughts on the rules are? Thanks. Agent c 20:22, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks J, that was my reading also. Might celebrate article edit 700 with the vote. Agent c 21:18, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Fallout lover455[edit source]

Did you have an issue with this ban? I noticed you posted to MS about it although I banned him initially. Clyde seems to have nailed him for sock-puppeting though. --Skire (talk) 22:07, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I saw it here a while ago, but I didn't realise it was just a misunderstanding. --Skire (talk) 22:24, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
...Do you know how stupid I feel now? :') It did seem a little odd and didn't quite sound like you. Now it all makes sense with Clyde's ban later. Hahaha that was humiliating, sorry for wasting your time, I should've looked at it closer. --Skire (talk) 22:36, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
For what's worth, the original ban for sockpuppeting was mine ;3 He also had another account which I banned as well. Limmiegirl Lildeneb.jpg Talk! ♪ 00:15, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Image[edit source]

Can you cut this image? MS: Destiny conquers all. 22:08, April 29, 2012 (UTC)


Ah, yes, there is that alternative to rename the image. I'll have that in mind. About others, isn't it that characters should have a straight look (like Arcade Gannon, though there are exceptions)? MS: Destiny conquers all. 22:30, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Update the Blackfoot Outdoorsman lab[edit source]

I just realised how many links there are to the page with the typo in the title (you recently moved it). I'm going to go through all these links and update them so we can delete the typo'd page eventually. --Skire (talk) 00:00, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, most of it is from the VB quests navbox template, and the main quest page had the typo'd link too. Once they update there won't be many left. --Skire (talk) 00:04, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
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