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Cut contentEdit

I noticed you're going through and adding the cut content. I use this website:
http://tcrf.net/Fallout:_New_Vegas
It has all the cut content from the base game, and all the add-ons. There's also a section for Fallout 3. It includes images and base IDs :) Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 22:43, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Hopefully this will make things easier for trying to find pictures. Anyway, have fun! Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 22:58, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

ForumEdit

Oh, I forgot to ask. Could I have your opinion on this? I'd like to know what the most experienced users think. Thanks. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 23:34, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Rights Edit

Hey Jspoel. It's good to be back. By the way I think someone removed all my rights I had received. Like I said in the post that was a moment of bad judgement and overwhelming emotions? Could you restore them please? I already posted to Clyde about this but I don't think he's in the house at the moment. -ΣΔLet's talk! 01:09, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I'm sure Clyde will see the message soon enough. Also, you can call me Danny, whatever works. -ΣΔLet's talk! 01:17, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Here I am... Edit

Never would have expected myself to be an Admin here when I first began visiting this site as an Anon around 3 years ago. I appreciate your confidence in me and I'm proud to have gained the favour of the community in a way where they have accepted me in such a way. Thank you though J. I'll do what I can to help improve this site and the community that thrives within it. Dragon Skål! 01:41, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Favicon Edit

What do you think about the bottlecap? I think this would be a good chance to show Doc Incognito that his efforts didn't go to waste. Dragon Skål! 01:44, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Oh I will be becoming very active now. Yes, I will be helping to filter out the vandalism and crap. I also have a news digest that will be coming out tomorrow if you haven't already seen my sandboxes and conversations already. I am also doing what I can to bring more editor awareness to Nukapedia since it seems to me we've been dying slowly for a while now. I have thrown up an editor request on CC and a spotlight request. The only thing that worries me about the spotlight is we still have a couple Adminship requests going on. Dragon Skål! 01:56, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
NukaPedia Favicon- Squiggle PNG2 - That's the Favicon I was thinking. It matches out current Bottle cap logo (red with a wavy line through the middle) and I really think at least one of Doc Incognito's designs should make it through.
All I need to do is convert it into an .ico file, which can easily be done. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 02:04, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Rights Edit

Turns out they were never taken in the first place, only chat mod (per my request on that regretful blog). I guess I'm notorious for making those type of decisions eh? Anyway, this is all behind me now and all I care about now is editing more here and looking forward in continuing working with you. Also, I like the new logo, it is your design, if I'm not mistaken. It looks natural, very acceptable for myself, unlike the name inscribed upon it. -ΣΔLet's talk! 03:39, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Category:The VaultEdit

I noticed that the category for Wiki related pages is still classified as The Vault. Should we rename that to Category:Nukapedia? Makes sense, seeing as that's what we're called now. I would have done it myself, but I wanted to check with you first. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 08:10, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

WND Edit

HI Jspoel. I'm going to be doing another WND soon (probably when the admin polls close) talking about the logo change. I was going to quote your statement in the Logo change forum, but if you have an alternative statement, or would prefer no quote at all, give me a shout. Also if you have anything else for me to cover, please also let me know. Agent c 14:14, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Free time Edit

I'm about to hit a wave of free time, so tell me, what do you want doing? I figure the way to 'earn your respect' back is to ask you directly what needs to be done. I don't like this hostility from you, so I'd rather end it sooner than later :). κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:39, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

 ? Edit

It has its own page here though so I don't see how adding a note at a different location would be logical. [1] They can easily get the location and its pinpoint on the map by looking up the weapon itself. Dragon Skål! 23:23, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

It is of my common understanding that it is considered clutter to add information that is entirely irrelevant towards the actual page itself. That and if someone knows the Mercenary Camp is in that general area already (Which would mean that they know what is to be found there and what to expect) why would they need to look up the locations around it instead of just looking up the location itself. (Or respectively, the weapon or WW page.) Also, why nervous? Everything I've removed is valid. Dragon Skål! 23:36, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
I was fine with having my edits over-ruled before even without significant claims as to why because I was just a normal user who didn't really have a say in the ultimate decisions made around here. Now I don't mean to push, but the community has shown that they trust in my judgment and knowledge on how things work here and have studied the guidelines extensively during my poll time and now I know as a new Admin that I have a firm foundation to stand on to defend my positions. I just don't like having edits that I've thought out all the sudden reverted without being consulted and then told that's the final decision without a real reason why. It's nothing bad towards you, you are an editor that I have no doubts will always be my superior in this field of work, but I also should note that we work on two different wave lengths and our decisions towards each others work will always be biased without conversing with each other first. I hope you can understand my concerns here. Dragon Skål! 23:54, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
I understand that specific concern and I have been contributing more to the re-writing and modifying of information fields lately. However, if I see content that doesn't belong (and it would be foolish to say that most pages here do not have information that is in no way relevant of even needed) it seems to me it's my duty to remove that information. I would also like to admit that I am no good at actually adding sparkling and shiny new content. I lean more towards the logical and reasoning side than my creative side when contributing here. Dragon Skål! 00:02, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Edit

Thanks, I won't let you all down:)--Bunny2Bubble 00:01, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Return to senderEdit

Hi Jspoel, could you help moderate an issue on Return to Sender? Garoux believes the connection to the song is too strechy, but I think it fits. I think the opinion could really be of use here :) Limmiegirl 00:29, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved. Dragon Skål! 00:32, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

VentEdit

Mind finding a picture for the Vent page? It's been lacking an image for quite some time, and I'm sure it'll be an easy one for you. Thanks. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 00:49, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Shroud Edit

Ah, I see. I thought it was the in-game spelling, thus the "sic". Anyway, I'm glad I helped with that :) -ΣΔLet's talk! 02:08, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Assets Edit

Hello Jspoel. Firstly, I owe you an overdue congratulations on the selection of your logo; as much as I was rooting for my own, yours was by far the logical and best choice, especially when considering the community spirit of Wikia.

Secondly, I was wondering if you had any ideas as to what I could do with the assets I submitted; though they won't be used in their originally intended capacities, I would love to find some use for them.

Cheers! Doc Incognito 04:25, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hey again. I just found that the site's favicon has changed, and it seems you're the one to thank. So to that end, thank you Jspoel! Doc Incognito 04:47, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Jspoel. And if any any point in the future, you find yourself in need of a piece of art for some reason, I'm always available to help. Doc Incognito 14:27, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

FaviconEdit

I think it looks horrible. Pixelated and unclear. It's a good concept, but it doesn't follow the bottlecap theme and it's really hard to distinguish what it actually is. Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Is that what it is?! Hmm, I think he's right about getting that reconsidered J κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 19:42, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with the opinions above now that I'm actually looking at it. Dragon Skål! 19:44, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

RevertEdit

Just beat me to it! κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:42, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Favicon Edit

Yeah I really like it, and sounds good!--Bunny2Bubble 21:42, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

SNM Poll Edit

You seem to have broken my poll. lol Dragon Skål! 22:50, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I see now. I was wondering why you were making it into a blog. :P Dragon Skål! 22:54, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon condition project Edit

No. I tested multiples of each weapon class to verify the game settings found in the GECK and then used those formulae to calculate the rest. Every test Zerginfestor , SD and I did, as well as some of the info already on the pages corroborated the findings. I was unable to test weapons that take magical companion ammo, since my game's been patched and the script that removes them precludes testing them. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 01:35, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Heads UpEdit

Hey, Captain. Just keep an eye on User:UncleBadTouch. They joined today and I've already had to revert two of their edits. I'm assuming good faith, but I still really don't want to have to keep fixing their errors. Just keep an eye out in case they make another questionable edit. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 01:48, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Admin Help Edit

How can I check a users IP address? Dragon Skål! 01:49, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense. There was just an incident the other day where Yes-Man had to chatban a certain user for boasting of how he was abusing multiple accounts. Dragon Skål! 01:55, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

FO3 weapon tables Edit

I just noticed how poorly the FO3 weapon table looks compared to the NV ones. You got any problem with me reorganizing the tables using the same format that the NV page does, i.e. uniques go directly beneath the alphabetized pedestrian version, weapon classes get broken into subdivisions like "pistols", "rifles", etc.? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 01:56, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

An example of what? The weapons tables or the tests on weapon condition we did? The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 02:03, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
I'll do it in my sandbox. Give me a few. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 02:25, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, it's up in [[User:The Gunny/sandbox|my sandbox]]. The last section at the bottom. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 03:13, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
OK. I'll get 'em tomorrow. Thanks. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 03:40, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!Edit

For your vote, it is appreciated! I shall rule chat with an iron fi... um, with grace and fairness! Thanks again for the faith in me, I shall do my best to make sure you didn't make the wrong choice J! Loves <3 NextTattoo"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 11:19, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

FaviconEdit

Apparently there's been a misunderstanding. When you told me to look at the favicon, when you'd changed it to the bottlecap, I still had the vault boy showing. The Vault boy looks horrendous, but the bottlecap looks decent. Thing is, I can't see the bottlecap on Firefox, it's still the vault boy on that browser. I changed to Chrome, and ta-da, there was the bottlecap. This is something we need to look into. I don't think this is isolated to me, because I checked on two different computers, and two different networks. Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Well, it changed on the wiki, I noticed that too, but the chat still has the Vault Boy placeholder. Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Cultural References Edit

I would like to ask you to edit the Fallout New Vegas Cultural References page to include the Spinal Tap reference in the achievement "Spinal-Tapped, it is reference to this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088258/ Varten 13:47, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Favicon Edit

I like the detail, it feels more like a bottlecap as opposed to being just flat. It looks slighty 3 dimensional. I like it!:)--Bunny2Bubble 15:17, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Bot Edit

I see you're doing a lot of tedious bot-like work. Perhaps you should consider setting up a bot, seeing as you handle a lot of the repetitive, idle work here. You could call is Agent Smith or something, in contrast. -ΣΔLet's talk! 18:24, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Ha, I knew you were going to say something along those lines. Like Guardian said, I have my doubts whether you're part bot or not... -ΣΔLet's talk! 19:18, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
That or he's a modern day tech witch. ;) The favicon looks pretty good by the way. Goes well with our current theme. Dragon Skål! 19:21, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
That's pretty impressive. You've put some real love into this wiki. Speaking of which, my weekly challenge idea is going by pretty slow (under-exaggerating) so I was thinking of running that into next weeks SNM edition also and maybe running an interview by you to make up for no winners to interview for next week. Would that be something fun for you? Dragon Skål! 19:35, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
I figured that was the case. I've always gotten the feeling that you're the type of guy who keeps his social and professional life separate. Hmm. I'll send you a copy as soon as I have some questions ready. I'll be kind of busy this weekend, but I'll try and have them to you by Sunday. Dragon Skål! 21:22, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Fallout 3 weapons Edit

The page is done. I unilaterally decided to pull out the section for add-on weapons. Every weapon in that section was listed on another part of the page, with the DLC icons, and I felt it was superfluous. I hope you agree. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 00:51, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

The old order went Unarmed, Melee, Small Guns, Energy, Big Guns, Explosives. I simply alphabetized the headings, sorta like the NV page (Guns, Energy, Explosives, Melee, Unarmed) . I also kinda like the idea of Small Guns on the top, but I know that comes from a personal preference for them over other weapons and I felt a little prejudiced. If you prefer, I'll move things back. The Gunny 380px-USMC-E7 svg 01:27, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thrown explosive Edit

Information on the older games comes from the manuals (Fallout 2 manual documents the mechanics pretty well). Information from the newer games comes from part-GECK, but mostly hours and hours and hours of throwing :) (Thelee 01:16, January 28, 2012 (UTC))

Sounds like good ideas. If you want to set the convention, I'll follow. I didn't even know category names were case-insensitive until after I had edited a few pages and wondered why the grenades weren't showing upon the same page. (Thelee 01:46, January 28, 2012 (UTC))

FaviconEdit

Anything is better than the heavily pixelated Vault Boy. It's kind of reminiscent of the Vault cog; was that on purpose? ;) --Kastera (talk) 02:51, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Only 89? Good for you. I'm currently at... 9. After going for 250+ days, apparently I skipped a day. I went back to when it allegedly happened, but I couldn't find any instance when I missed a day. After that, I decided that I'm probably not going to go for Savior of the Damned. Maybe Wikia is messing with me again, like the time it took 2,000+ points from me. --Kastera (talk) 17:40, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

ProjectEdit

Hi J, I've been doing your locations project this morning, but I have no way of getting the cell/ref ids for the Bon Vivant suite. Anyway you could get that for me? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 15:26, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Always feel like a dick doing this... Have you missed this message? I just need that and I can sign off that part of the project. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 23:43, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
Well I thought you'd have dropped me a note if you'd done it ;) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 23:54, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sims Edit

Hey, I merged the simulations of the tranquility lounger in one page, (keeping the one on Tranquility Lane), what do you think?--Bunny2Bubble 18:14, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I asked him, it will pry take a bit for him to respond it usually does. I'm pretty sure about this reference.

Names and logos Edit

I'm glad the whole name and logo thing has come to an end. It was starting to get on my nerves a bit, now we can focus more on editing articles yay! -ΣΔLet's talk! 18:18, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hobbler: Misery was a great movie! I just think that the term may be too generic for a direct reference. Oh well, we'll wait and find out. -ΣΔLet's talk! 18:29, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ban Edit

Maybe a month is a little steep. Not 3 days though. Not for an anon who edit wars and then taunts us when we revert his false information. Dragon Skål! 19:26, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hunters Edit

Per request with the split template, I made a FNV Hunter page. I'm pretty sure there are hunters in Fallout: New Vegas, but it's best worth checking out. If there aren't any, just delete the page, it's quite rudimentary anyway. -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:58, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

HuntersEdit

That was a long time before I played Fallout 3, but I think there were some Hunters. I think they were in special encounters. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 21:32, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, I don't think so. Though I do know that they were in Fallout 2. There is also a wanted page on the list as well. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 21:40, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Now I checked the history - it was SigmaDelta who added template. Since he didn't play Fallout/Fallout 2, then there is a possibility there is another hunter. Try asking him. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 22:06, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

I checked in game (PS3). I couldn't find any... strange, I definitely remember them being there! Oh well, no harm done. Thanks for redirecting. -ΣΔLet's talk! 22:52, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

VandalEdit

User:Dee Vince admitted that he was 12 years old in chat. We banned him because the Wikia rules state that you must be at lest 13 years old to have an account. Then he left chat and vandalised user pages. He needs a one year ban so that he'll be old enough to legally have an account when he returns. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 23:26, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

ImageEdit

I aim to get 5k by the end of Febuary :D. Is that a subtle hint that you want me to make you one? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 00:27, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, will you finally welcome me back? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 00:30, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
In that case, the best way for you to stay on my good side is to respond to my messages like the one from earlier. All it needed was 'Done'... κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 00:39, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Trolls in the chat room, Fearbot and Bronyman, need you to kick ban them. Damn it, its times like these i could do with the chat mod powers to deal with the trolls sooner.AaaaaTheNemesisx 02:11, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Vandals Edit

This user [2] has been making nonsense edits on several pages... Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 03:31, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Also [3] this anon... Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 03:32, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Taken care of, J. Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

AdminEdit

Hi Captain. I recently made 1000 article edits, and I thought about applying for admin. What's your take on this? Should I apply with only the minimum amount of edits, or should I wait a while? I think I'd have no trouble being an admin here, considering I've been an admin at Fallout Answers and I know how everything works. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 03:48, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Also, troll for you. One reason I want administrative rights is to deal with editors like that myself. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 08:17, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

ByeEdit

Jspoel I wanted to take the time to say bye to you. You were the admin that always pointed out my mistakes and made me a better user. Your one of the best users I've seen on any wiki and your hard work is a big part of what makes this place great. Thanks and goodbye. --RAMRam.ShyGuy 09:04, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

External imagesEdit

Hi, could you tell me if the external images in Mirrored shades should be kept? I vaguely remember it not being allowed, but I'm not sure. Toodles~ Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 18:00, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

As soon as finished my message I noticed you were already dealing with it:) Nothing gets pass you eh? Thanks for explaining. Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 18:13, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you JEdit

I will use them properly, don't worry (as if I have abused them before ;). Now all is needed is you to apply for B-Crat, but I already found your plan for that ;) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:27, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: AdminEdit

Wow, you really think my chances are that good? That makes me a lot more confident. You're like the second in command at this wiki. Well, I think I'll give it a shot regardless of what my edit count is. I'll prove to you that you do have good judgement. Feel free to vote whatever you'd like. And if I don't make it, then it just gives me more feedback to work on until next time. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 21:27, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

3000 Edit

I've finally reached 3000 edits! It seemed like my 1000-2000 one took a lot shorter amount of time. That may be in part because I felt discouraged recently, but now I'm back and going full force. March 19th, 2012, you'll see my application again :) -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:50, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

The power of Google Translate: "Hey, a Dutchman. I do not see much here. Guess I'm one of the few who can decipher your username. Have fun here and I hope to see you nice contributions!" -ΣΔLet's talk! 22:44, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
There are definitely more Americans ("Yanks") here than Dutch people! And I have a tendency to "lurk", as Scar would call it. -ΣΔLet's talk! 22:58, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, out of curiosity, what does "Jspoelstra" mean? And how do you pronounce it correctly? I've always pronounced it as "J-S-poelle-strah". -ΣΔLet's talk! 23:09, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
It's his name. His first name combined with his surname. Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Oh. -ΣΔLet's talk! 23:17, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Gift Edit

Shuttle
You have been given A Shuttlecock.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Two passions can come together. Keep up the beastliness! -Bunny2Bubble
No problem!

Misery Edit

J.E. Sawyer replied to me, what do you think? http://web.archive.org/web/20130209011941/www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/288159323253639788--Bunny2Bubble 04:26, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Bad link me thinks. Dragon Skål! 04:27, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
http://web.archive.org/web/20130209011941/www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/288159323253639788 I think it was because I didn't seperate my signature:P --Bunny2Bubble 04:30, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Ahah. :D I see that now. Dragon Skål! 04:31, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

So, what I'm getting is that, only the icon references it?--Bunny2Bubble 04:36, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

It seems to me that he was just mentioning that he sees why we'd see a reference in that picture. I really don't think that's what they intended though. Dragon Skål! 04:40, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
A bit late to the discussion, but the first link isn't bad. It's a picture of a puppy. If anything, that's a good link. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 04:38, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Fo' sho. ^ Dragon Skål! 04:41, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Lol, I see it as the logo references it, but the perk doesn't. He said it suggests that. But we can see what Jspoel thinks on this.--Bunny2Bubble 04:43, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Ahh ok, yeah that's worded well. Thanks!--Bunny2Bubble 13:41, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hobbler Edit

Looks good to me! If it really is a reference, they should have thrown in some other Stephen King aspects into the game also. :') Dragon Skål! 17:27, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Ah-ha! Edit

A new glimpse at J. Spoelstra, the man behind the mask ;) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 18:38, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Also, I have given more thought to the admin forum idea we discussed. It would be easy enough for me to add to the Forum area, and I have had an idea on how to make sure it stays admin only without having to protect every page after creating it. Get back to me if you still think it's a good idea. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:29, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Gone off the idea? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 23:14, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Lionheart Edit

I know that Lionheart utilizes the Special system, by why do we keeping making perk pages and such? Just curious.--Bunny2Bubble 01:04, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Do we really "Want" to though? Lol jk. I guess that makes sense. But there seems like a lot.

Edit

Hey J; Just got a message from Gstaff on the Bethesda forums. Thought you might like to know he says your logo is great. Agent c 01:59, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Gstaff Edit

I've answered Nem's Ausir question on his talk page; but as to Gstaff he's the community manager so he might be someone that it might be a worthwhile someone for a user with a Admin or B/c status to get to know, maybe hustle for some free swag for a contest or something when FO4 gets announced. Agent c 16:40, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

I thought so. I know others have suggested it, but I think it would be great if you went for B/c yourself... You seem to be here a lot, and you are the number 1 editor after all... 16:54, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Junktown Jerky Vendor Edit

Hey, don't you think "Its name indicates that it was created after the Great War and copies have been in circulation so much as to make their way to the East Coast, far away from the original Junktown." should be removed for speculation? There's no actual indication the book is referring to F1's Junktown after all. For all we know it's just a coincidence. I'm hesitant to just delete it though, the article is already small as it is... Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 19:51, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hm still feels too speculative for my taste but I don't feel too strongly about removing it either. Status quo it is then :) Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 20:16, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Guardian Peak Edit

What do you think about this? "Log page 20 blames someone named Burke from the original survey team for not having noticed caves that could contain dangerous creatures. This is an homage to the film Aliens, as the character Burke in the movie knew about the dangerous aliens on the planet, but sent the survey team anyway." This seems highly unlikely as this idea has been used in numerous movies as a plot device. Dragon Skål! 22:54, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

You're absolutely right... there was a Marine named Burke. I'll have to send a question his way then. Seems pretty likely now though. Dragon Skål! 23:15, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. I usually try and not to mention such things, but I'll see about adding that information in somehow. Dragon Skål! 23:25, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Admin forum Edit

For the forum in general, or the protection? I'll explain the latter seen as I think that that's what you are after :). It's really simple. Forum creators would add a template at the top of the page (maybe with something like {{Admin forum}}) and add some cascading protection to this, so that pages with the template on it become protected to admin only, whilst at the same time serving as a notice to other users that they cannot join that partcular discussion. This means that, if we didn't want to take that course, we wouldn't have to create a sub-forum. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 23:27, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

That's what I mean! A templete that would protect and page AND act as a notice to non-admins, in order to save time and look more professional :) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 20:57, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Your reverts. Edit

  • Hopeville Armory - I removed the special ammo types and riot gear. I removed these because Nukapedia policy states that notable loot only includes unique and rare items. (Exceptions would be if you find a a large number of a certain item in a specific location.) Rare items only include non-renewable resources, which means technically even the bottle-cap mines shouldn't be listed. Everything else can be noted inside the layout or walk-through sections.
  • Tenpenny Tower - Did you not read what I removed? They had notes about where to find loot that had nothing to do with that location.
  • Waste Disposal Station - Same as my Hopeville removals. If we start noting where to find just an uncommon gun that you can easily find on enemies or even buy it, we'll have to start listing where to find everything that's stronger than the varmit rifle.
  • Hopeville Missile Base - This is where I'm getting the feeling you're just reverting my edits because you can. Since when is a bowie knife and a couple ammo boxes with a random assortment of mines notable? They are not and you know it. They might belong in the layout section and that is all.
  • I Forgot to Remember - Another one... we do not allow petty strategy into articles. And why in the hell do we need a note about history points? We have an entire bullet list literally a couple inches above that state exactly what you need to do.
  • Mobile Base Crawler - "* The Mobile Base Crawler bears a striking resemblance to the real-life NASA crawler-transporter, particularly the tread units and the position of the entry ramp. It's more than likely that it is a heavily modified crawler, probably taken post-War." We don't allow real world comparisons and speculation.

I will send you even more in a moment. I'll stop now so you'll stop reverting about 2 hours of my work. Because I have to say... I'm kind of pissed now that once again, you have not even tried to get an explanation out of me for my actions before reverting. We really need to get some sort of communication working here. Dragon Skål! 18:04, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted to let you know that I went through your reverts. I truly believe you had no right to revert most of the ones you did. I did compromise a tad and I left the rare rocket ammo. I guess the line sort of blurs on that one. Dragon Skål! 18:55, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox colour Edit

I'm sorry, and I have read your message several times, but I have no idea what you mean :/ κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 20:55, February 1, 2012 (UTC)


Troll in chat Edit

Hey Jspoel, we have a troll in the chat room, i was also suppose to gain my chat mod rights today but Clyde is not online so would it be possible if you could quickly grant me those rights so i can kickban this troll please?.AaaaaTheNemesisx 00:04, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Troll in the midst Edit

Me and Sigma are onto you! :') Dragon Skål! 01:03, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

It's all in good fun, J. You know we appreciate your extreme hardwork! -ΣΔLet's talk! 01:16, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Definitely. :D I think the universe would probably implode if you ever turned troll though. It's just that unlikely. :P Dragon Skål! 01:24, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Which brings me to another recurring thought: why not run for bc?! You seem extremely dedicated, even after the split, you're very active (don't believe you've missed a day since I joined), know the place well, and have great leadership qualities! If it's something you'd consider, I think it would be great. -ΣΔLet's talk! 01:44, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I pretty much consider you as the true leader of this wiki. What motivated you to stay here though? I've seen your answers to a couple different people who have asked the same question, but I've realized that your dedications seems to solely focus on the well-being of this particular wiki. Why didn't you follow the others or even work partially on both sites? Dragon Skål! 01:46, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Quick question Edit

Is there any chance you can get a better image to upload for the plunger room here? I have the strong suspicion that there is modded content in the current image since I am seeing 3 sets of t-51 power armour. Dragon Skål! 21:29, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

That was fast! Thanks for the help J. :) Dragon Skål! 21:48, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
That's the reason why I came to you! You do a pretty damn good job also. Dragon Skål! 21:54, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Previous two conversations Edit

Yes, I can create the forum if we need it. And yes, I see the issue now. I'll look at that as soon as I have finished this essay. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:39, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Staying here Edit

I'm just glad you decided to stay. It's kind of strange, because I've felt a great amount of loyalty to this wiki also. The idea of moving and leaving this wiki to the dogs just didn't seem right to me. It would have been nice if we could have just stayed together as a whole though. We're missing the professionalism (Porter, etc.) and they're missing an actual community and the tools needed to keep casual editors around. Dragon Skål! 22:01, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you're the crux of this wiki, the most essential part. Your organisation, along with other admins, has kept us strong, in conjuncture with the fierce editing. If you do decide to run for bc, there will be no doubt that you will get it. I enjoyed the 3 bureaucrat system we had, it worked out great. It's kind of like the triumvirates of Rome. -ΣΔLet's talk! 22:45, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
You'll be that bc! Also, I don't think you need to worry about badges all that much, you're ahead by thousands of points! I'm currently working on the Champion of Justice one - 100 days in a row. You've earned so many that new ones had to be made just to accommodate you! hehe -ΣΔLet's talk! 00:21, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

What do you think? Edit

...about this username? Aschramm667

Okay. lol I was trying my hardest not to read that the wrong way. Dragon Skål! 22:30, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Woops. Thanks.--Bunny2Bubble 22:33, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

That's strange. I've tried typing that in and it won't let me use it. Dragon Skål! 22:34, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
I just typed in infinite then it worked.--Bunny2Bubble 22:36, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Guidelines Edit

Can you link to me where the notable loot section is written out in the policy and guidelines? I seem to be having trouble finding it this time around. Dragon Skål! 04:59, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Possbile virus on this site Edit

Hello. I'm a new member of this site and was hoping to speak to an admin, and I found you were one. Anyway, I think this site is infected with a virus, a FakeRean, to be specific. If you could look into this you would be doing me and others who find get issues such as these from this wonderful site. Thank you. DeathclawProHunter 05:23, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

AdminshipEdit

Ah, this ain't my day it seems. However, I'll consider about the patroller request. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 14:54, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

My rights! Edit

I seem to have accidentally removed my admin rights (basically, Scarface and I were fooling around with Chatban groups). Please restore? Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 16:17, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

PRO ITEM.MSG (Fallout 2)Edit

I have browsed and some links are those from the PRO ITEM.MSG (Fallout). Other things I don't seem to understand or they wouldn't have much info, but there are some links that could be redirected to Fallout and Fallout 2 world objects. The only thing I can think of is to make the pages then merging them to Fallout and Fallout 2 world objects page. Do you know of any alternatives? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 21:42, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I can't help you there, sorry. Do you think GhostAvatar knows about it? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 22:09, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Anon Blocks Edit

That makes sense I suppose. Had a bit of a banning spree last night since we had a group of Anons who decided to try and remove content from pages. :P Dragon Skål! 22:12, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Fallout dataEdit

IIRC, you can use the Fallout 2 Mapper for Fallout 2 (we should have a copy up on NMA) and for Fallout 1... I think FUCK (Fallout Utility for Critter Tinkering) is going to be the right choice. I never worked much with protos, sorry. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 00:06, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Salisbury Steak Edit

Hey Jspoel, I was wondering if Salisbury Steak was the name of the brand, as I see its capitalized everywhere. Because it just is a general dish. Thanks!--Bunny2Bubble 00:58, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Fallout character imagesEdit

I've browsed through the Fallout characters. I've mostly replaced the images with the models, but should you delete the images that have been replaced? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 13:26, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Good, but some (I think) models are missing. One of them I know is the Vault dweller (female) with red hair. So what do we do about it? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 13:32, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

About the character model, no, I meant the models like Theresa (Fallout). As for Sandy, you mean creating a disambiguation page? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 14:10, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Seen it all. All right, I understand now. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 14:16, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Too bad we don't have a model, but from I see, all images are fine, they don't have 2 characters and their quality is good. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 14:24, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Notable Edit

Wouldn't high level weapons, I.E. the Light machine gun be considered notable loot?--Bunny2Bubble 19:54, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ah ok, but do you think it would be worth giving it a mention on that page?
Oh, someone must have reinstated it:P--Bunny2Bubble 19:37, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, well thanks!

Re:Welcome Edit

Thanks for the welcome back, my unit is keeping me busy alot, but hopefully i'll have more time during the week to get on the site. I have one question though, I noticed the editing layout changed, but is there any way to go back to the old way it was? Xa3talkContributionsMysteriousStranger02:09, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Edit

You're right, but I figured it could be used in past tense as well. Charcoal121 04:01, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

SNMEdit

Don't suppose you like the Strategic Nuclear Moose do you? If you do, could you give me a little feedback on the text adventure I wrote/will continue writing for it? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 15:00, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I'll try to bear that in mind and make sure I write less complexly. Do you think you'll come back and see how it progresses? Can you see that others might? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 19:14, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Benny Edit

Ah, thanks. It sounded right to me but was worded in a speculative way, so I got rid of it just for now. Leon would've gotten to it anyway :) -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:32, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

B v I Edit

I've had to deal with the real world a bit this week just gone, hoping to get to it in the next few days Agent c 20:39, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Things Edit

Right, the problem with the infobox is not found in the template, so I had a look at the CSS and JavaScript, but it's far too complex for me so I've requested Porter's help. He's presumably made a mistake somewhere along the line because it shouldn't have an image button. Also, as I said to sig about the adventure: "I'm trying to think of a non-patronising way around it. I'm thinking of a 'lite' version, and that'd be good for those without the time or ability, whilst leaving the vote as one on the page. I'll look into that for tomorrow." κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 20:46, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm curious that that would have an image button too. If you look what actually goes into that section, such as on Chevy Chase then you will see that there is no image involved at all ;). I'll take a second look at it for you. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:03, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, J, but this one has defeated me. I'll go try and decode the CSS and JS before Porter gets back and work it out, but I don't think I'll succeed. Really sorry about that, maybe I won't be so useful after all. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:11, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, that makes perfect sense actually. Good point well made :) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:38, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Remember, if you need help, I can find someone with advanced template knowledge to lend a hand :)
(also, hi, just dropping in to see if all's well) -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 21:43, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Sorted. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 21:09, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
You're a beautiful man Ghost. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:11, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Verification Edit

Hey Jspoel, I was just looking at the verify tag. If a page doesn't have a 'verification needed' on one of its pages can the category be deleted? The Australian Kiwi 22:22, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks just wanted to clear that up, I'll leave the verification's. Iv'e just reapplied to KingClyde thanks for reminding me.

AdminEdit

Thanks for the congrats, J! I'll be sure to catch up on some edits. Probably not as many as you, though! I look forward to working with you. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 05:04, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Confirmation Edit

Huh. I guess he skipped my question then. :| Dragon Skål! 13:35, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

No... I've been checking every day hoping that he's been systematically answering each question and that it'd just take time for him to get to mine. I guess that's not the case though since he just answered yours. :P Dragon Skål! 13:43, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Question? Edit

Does the Vault allow real world diseases in its edits? Because in the strange meat notes, it has a statement about Kuru, the disease you contract from consuming human flesh. I was just wondering it should be allowed or not. Bobblehead Charisma "All men were created equal, not all men remain so."

"Azzy G33" Edit

What's with this guy and his user page (before you removed it)? I liked Kastera... -ΣΔLet's talk! 19:34, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Archiving Edit

Yeah they weren't bad I just happened to be on the talk page and my edit finger was getting a little itchy >.< I'll just run future archives by others before going all gung-ho lol.--Xaedra 20:18, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

LR Edit

You wouldn't happen to know of the purpose for the poison effect you gain when entering the Divide? That might be another question for Sawyer if you don't. Dragon Skål! 20:25, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

So many questions that need answering! Shall I try and ask him or would you like the honour of asking yourself? :P Dragon Skål! 21:07, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
Not that I know of. Used to be, but I guess it was removed. I'll keep looking just to make sure. Dragon Skål! 21:21, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Race Edit

Ah ok, I wondered where all those assumptions were made.--Bunny2Bubble 21:42, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

CapitalizationEdit

One other thing I may need your opinion on if you care to give it, I was thinking it would be a good ideat to reopoen the Anti-capitalization project again. I see much work to be done with it, capitalized improper nouns run rampant. What do you think?--Bunny2Bubble 21:47, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

We could make up a mini-admin project of it perhaps?--Bunny2Bubble 23:07, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I'll start a forum reminding users about the capatilization rules, and make mention of specific things I see. Because there is a lot out there.--Bunny2Bubble 00:42, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

FEB Edit

I'm a little confused why you're adding the floating eye bots to the Eyebots page. While they have similar designs, they are not the same thing and in my current understanding, it's never been stated who created the FEB while it has been stated that Eyebots were created by RobCo. So it seems to me there's very little connecting them aside from similar design. Edit: It might also be of note that the Eyebots were constructed for propaganda reasons while the FEB were created for defensive reasons and crowd control. (Hence, why it used a tazer)Dragon Skål! 00:38, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense. I was just wondering what your reasons were is all. Dragon Skål! 01:34, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Reply from my talk page Edit

Hi, it's great to hear things are going well :) especially that you have new admins - they are such an important aspect of a community, of course. I've pinged Grunny about the infoboxes. He's not online at the moment (he's on Aussie time, so might be around a bit later). Hopefully he'll be able to help soon.

Btw, I've heard that MediaWiki are planning to introduce a whole new way of creating templates in the future (although they will have to figure out a way to make the old way compatible or automatically replaced). Hopefully it will let people do complex things in a much more sensible and sustainable way. Should be good! -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 03:43, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Possible commercial spam on user page Edit

Hi J, Was wondering if you could take a look at this: User:Pilcel; Google Translate suggests it may be commercial spam based on its translation, but I figured since the site it links to is Dutch you're probably in a better position to judge thank most of us. Agent c 12:04, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Strange Meat Edit

Thanks for getting back to me on that. I didn't know if it was supposed to be or not. Just trying to make the Vault better. "All men were created equal, not all men remain so." Bobblehead Charisma


Template Seminar Edit

Yep, im allready looking foward to it, i need to get the hang on templates from time to time, i could probally teach a bit about it to the others after haveing learned some wiki codeing from a few users at the FFWiki but i will mainly be there to learn rather than to teach.AaaaaTheNemesisx 14:28, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Seminar Edit

Hey Jspoel. I signed up for the seminar the other day when the little pop up showed up on my screen. So I'm all set. Hopefully the time doesn't mess with my already scheduled plans for the day. It will be my girlfriend's birthday and I don't know when she wants to do anything. TrailerParkApe TPA 18:16, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

I'll do what I can to be there. No promises though. Dragon Skål! 18:22, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

I don't I got the message, for some reason. Would you care to send me a link so I can sign up? -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:09, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Jspoel, I won't be able to participate today. I'm actually going out of town for most of the day today, and that's happening relatively soon. Thank you for posting the link for some notes from the seminar. TrailerParkApe TPA 19:40, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Templates seminar Edit

I have signed up, I'm very interested in learning more about templates. I think this is a good thing to help beef up our wiki if we have numerous users that are skilled with them.--Bunny2Bubble 21:44, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

I've signed up but my connection is spotty until next month;I've also left a message on the forum about it. I'll chase up everyone else who expressed an interest afterwards and see if there's demand for us to do something with those who can't make it. If you spot someone who's interested but cant do it, if you point them my way I'll see what I can do. Agent c 22:42, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal Edit

Hi. Could you ban racist and vandal 75.128.83.60 for me? He vandalised the GOAT page. Here is the link [[4]] -ΣΔLet's talk! 23:56, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox conversions Edit

Hi Jspoelstra. Sorry for the delay in getting back to work on converting the infoboxes here. I'll start converting Infobox person later today. Sannse mentioned an issue with the Infobox location, can you explain what the issue is to me? I fixed the alignment last time I think, but if something else needs fixing just let me know. :) Cheers, grunny@fandom:~$ 00:33, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Fallout Wiki:Duplicate files should be fixed, if you refresh your cache while viewing the page (ctrl+f5 in most browsers). Cheers, grunny@fandom:~$ 01:48, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Show me how to make a single infobox.

RegisterEdit

I might register for the webinar. I'll have to think about. It doesn't cost anything right? I'll also see if I can contact a Wikia admin to get rid of the wiki. --Kastera (talk) 01:34, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'll think about signing up. I doubt I have much to teach, really, but I'll think about it. Also depends on how much free time I can spare. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 02:56, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, great. Thanks, J. I'll make sure I check it out. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 03:04, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Edit

Thanks for fixing that for me. I have absolutely no idea on how to put those in there. but thank you for doing that for mee. "All men were created equal, not all men remain so." Bobblehead Charisma

Boulder City Edit

Earlier, I was cleaning up all of the names mentioned on the memorial at Boulder City. Came across Hayes's name and I went ahead and dismissed it as speculation for now. SigmaDelta expressed his concern though so I wanted to ask you if there's any sort of reference towards a connection between the Hayes mentioned on the memorial and the Hayes located at Primm. Dragon Skål! 10:40, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Interesting, I'm sure he added it for good reason. He still frequents The Vault? Dragon Skål! 11:03, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
I'll leave him a message then. Guess I should do it right now before I pass out, seeing as in how it's 5:10 in the morning here. Insomnia can be a pain. :P Dragon Skål! 11:10, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Sent him a message and I guess I'll see about crashing for the night. (Or morning. w/e) While I was at The Vault, by the way, I happened to notice they were planning to re-link our wikia site to their Curse site on NMA. Not sure if they plan on keeping our link there or not. Dragon Skål! 11:27, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

NCR Prospector Edit

Hey Jspoel, it's come to my attention from wandering the Mojave that there are characters that are named as 'NCR Prospectors'. Does this mean that the page should be worked on and the cut information title be removed? The Australian Kiwi 22:24, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah that's where I found them after clearing the vipers I think. I'll have a look through other places where prospectors are known to be found. The Australian Kiwi 11:21, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ask Marcus linkEdit

Thanks for doing that for me, J. This is the only time I've had to myself all day! Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 04:21, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

B'CratEdit

*Is still waiting, even though J. Spoelstra said that he would do it after all the mod apps and admin apps were over...* κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 13:33, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Huzzah! It's about time my old friend, I've been waiting since Ghost made it, so longer than most :D κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 13:37, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hotels Edit

I added the hotels category so that we had hospitality all rounded up. The Australian Kiwi 14:09, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal Edit

Hey Jspoel, can you ban this anon for vandalising please 85.114.135.150 The Australian Kiwi 15:54, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Done. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 16:00, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Request Edit

I'd rename your request Bureaucrat Request rather than -cratship. It makes no sense in English where the others do, but I hesitate to rename it myself incase that bugs you. Good luck too, I know they'll be a total of zero no votes ;) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 16:28, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Jspoel saying nah? Not expecting that. You're different to when I became less active. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 16:37, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
1) I didn't rename it, I created that page and added all the information to it.
2) There are other shamans, such as the one in Fallout 2 from your tribe and the one from Sulik's tribe, not to mention Sulik is debatably one himself.
3) As Van Buren was never released and yet we still cover it, you'll notice that all the Van Buren pages have that suffixed to them to show that it isn't in any of the released games.

If it bothers you that much, I can make a Shaman (Fallout 2) page and turn Shaman into a dismbiguation page. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 16:58, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Added you to the news now. Good Luck. Agent c 17:00, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I'll take a look for you and tell you when I am done. I'm no lackey though! ;) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 17:06, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Finis! κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 17:31, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sorted Edit

Never really messed around with anything other than the current games. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 19:31, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

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