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Wishes For You Edit

˚✰˚ ˛★* 。 ღ˛° ˚ • ★˚ Wishing you a very happy Birthday! ✰˚ ˛★* 。 ღ˛° ˚ • ★˚
FalloutGirl talk

Happy birthday! Sorry, I didn't get you a present... Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 22:49, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Have a good one! Edit

Happy birthday, Jspoel! -- Almighty Higgey (talk page) 12:37, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Congratz <3Edit

Congratulations on both your birthday and your 50'000th edit! I hope you have a wonderful birthday! Birthdayhugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Happy Birthday hope you have a fun day. AaaaaThe Netherealm awaits for you 13:00, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

The mighty Jasper also wishes you a happy birthday old chap. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?"UserRichard 13:07, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations on your 50'000th edit, and have a happy birthday. I urge you to take a break from editing and enjoy your day, you are working very hard here. Cheers, Gears of duty

Hello and Congratulations! Edit

You're very welcome. Wow ~ you made it! 50,000 edits is amazing, and with my measly 604, I am in awe of just how many edits that is.

I am wishing you the best on your special day. I have to echo Gears of Duty's sentiments in that I hope you are planning a well-deserved break from all that work!

My birthday? is not for quite some time, May 22nd. Maybe I will have 50,000 edits by then, lol! Somehow, I don't think that will happen, but it is an amusing thought to entertain =P Do you get 50,000 birthday spankings now? =D
FalloutGirl talk 14:13, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

I support this idea. ^ Skål! 14:57, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Cookie. Edit

I got you one but I sort of ates it. :D Happy Birthday though! Here's wishing you the best and that you're able to sneak away from here for some R&R. ;) Skål! 14:55, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Happy birthday! Edit

Best wishes from the UK! Have a great day, --FourWayDiablo(talk) 15:34, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Happy birthday! Sorry I can't give you an official congratulation. MysteryStranger

Hartelijk gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag!Edit

I have finished the image for your userbox! It was very difficult all in all, and I have spent most of today doing it, finalising, checking images etc, but hopefully it was worth it :). I also decided not to change the colours in the end, and it was intentional not to because I didn't like any of the other variations I came up with:
50000 club seal

And the final piece:
50000 club

Happy birthday Jspoel! TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag

Wow, it fits perfectly :). I'm pleased that you like it. And once when I was leaving a message it was up the top: I didn't even realise I'd written it! Sorry, I've removed it for the sake of your privacy, my mistake :). Did you have a good day? TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag
Well, it was an honest mistake :). I'm glad you had a good day, now I have to think of something for Itachou... As for the Dutch, I see you have toned down the formality: I was a bit unsure how you would want me to address you, so that's why I went with that. I stayed up just to make sure you were happy with your presemt, so is it okay? Any changes that you want would be fine by me :) TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag
After a shaky start, I'm glad you now regard me as a friend of sorts :). I think you can tell I do too because of the effort I put in... Glad you had a good day Jspoel, and I hope to see you around, no doubt busy as usual after your day of rest ;). TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag

Happy birthday/THE BIG FIFTYEdit

Radscorpion FO3
You have been given your very own pet radscorpion.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
You gave me one when I was first starting out; thought I'd return the favor. Plus because you're better than me in basically all aspects. Kastera (talk) 16:12, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
So do you think you'll slow down after your average of 150 edits per day, or are you going to try for 100,000 by next year? --Kastera (talk) 23:53, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Happy birthday jspoel, enjoy the party :D

Happy Birthday Edit

Happy Birthday, enjoy the party :D And for 50000 edits :D--Jackasaurus 16:52, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Have a good one Jspoel, maybe I should get off the bot and start catching you up hihi. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 23:27, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Journal entries on quests pages Edit

Yeah, I've already noticed. It's due to some parameters of {{Quest stage table}} sharing the name of some infobox parameters. I'll have the bot go over the affected pages again once it's finished its current run. Thanks for notifying me though. Happy (belated) birthday, by the way :) -- Porter21 (talk) 15:31, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I did a short test run to see whether my script for fixing the journal entries would work; now it's back on its original script. You'll likely see the bot mess up the journal entries for a little while yet; it's easier for me to continue and fix the journal entries later than changing the original script in the middle of its run. -- Porter21 (talk) 15:37, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for reminding me - I noticed it earlier but forgot to put it on my fix list. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:46, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Challenge infobox Edit

Sure, shouldn't be a problem. I'll set it up tomorrow. -- Porter21 (talk) 16:48, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

First draft can be found here: {{Infobox challenge}}. Please let me know what you think. -- Porter21 (talk) 22:39, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
With the new infoboxes, name is optional (see this thread) - it's not needed on most pages (only if the pagename differs from the name that should be displayed in the infobox) hence I didn't include it in the "copy/paste" section. repeats should cover what ranks stood for when people used the perk infobox. -- Porter21 (talk) 00:00, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
The redlink was just a server cache issue - I purged the page and it's fine now. Regarding addition of the challenge infobox to pages: While it's usually no problem to have the bot work on a custom list of pages or a certain category, in this case there are some reasons why a manual addition would be better:
  • People did not always use the perk infobox for challenges, and even if they did, they did not necessarily use the same parameters for the same challenge attribute.
  • Some challenges and their corresponding perks share the same page; in this case at least one of the perk infoboxes (the one for the actual perk) would have to remain unchanged.
Hence I think this is better left to human judgement rather than having the bot create a mess.
The image stuff with the new infobox now works like this:
  • There is an option for the infobox ("imageoptional") which determines whether an upload button is displayed if no images are specified. {{Infobox achievement}} has this option activated, for example.
  • "empty" does indeed no longer work (it doesn't work for rows either). Basically there are 3 different cases for what can be entered with the image parameters:
    1. image is set to nothing (i.e. there's nothing on the right side of the equal sign) or not present on the page -> no image displayed.
      • If the infobox is configured to display an upload button (see above) -> upload button displayed.
    2. image is set to "@hide" -> no image displayed.
      • If the infobox is configured to display an upload button -> upload button not displayed (i.e. setting image to "@hide" can be used to hide the upload button).
    3. image is set to anything else -> image displayed.
I hope that's somewhat understandable :) -- Porter21 (talk) 13:02, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

icon size does work, but it's not something which is set up to be modifiable on a per-page basis (plus there are restrictions on its maximum value, so even if it were set up to be adjustable for individual pages it wouldn't have allowed you to do what you wanted to do). If you want to use the icon as the main image, you should do what you already did, i.e. specify the icon as image (or image and icon).

I'm also aware of the documentation mismatch. The documentation for standard parameters (i.e. "universal" parameters which are used by all infoboxes) is shared across the doc pages for all infoboxes, so I can either choose between having it correct for the old or for the new infoboxes. Since the majority of infoboxes hasn't been converted yet, I've left the old documentation in place for now. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:29, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Bot Edit

It is always in action, but it is far from complete. Think of it as ever evolving intelligent editor, each thing I see that needs correcting, keeps adding to it. As for the skills pages, I decided to do that myself - a bit of a break from adding to the bot (now it is up for discussion grrrr). User avatar tagUser Avatar talk

I'm Stuck Edit

Hi Jspoel,

I just wanted to say thank you for trying to help me with the little image at the end of the signature for my name; I must admit that I'm lost totally on that one. I couldn't figure it out. I did upload an image I wanted to use, hopefully you can see it. (the file name is MM01) and it's Marilyn Monroe in black and white, but it came out too large even though I changed the image size before saving, and I wasn't sure how to go about making the "talkpage link" you mentioned, which may be 99 percent of the problem. I did go with the violet for my name, as that was the color out of all the ones I tried that I liked the best, although I'm not sure of how much variety there is for the colors. I also see you can do cursive, as in JJ's and that is very pretty, but again, I think I would be totally lost as to what to do, since I seem to be hung up on this simple thing. I'm not very good at formatting things. If you're not busy... help? lol I'm totally stuck. But I love the images at the end, especially the vault girl ones, though I still want Marilyn on mine. Thank you for taking time out of your day today to try to help me format that, that was very much appreciated. I hope you are doing well and that you had a good birthday :o).
FalloutGirl (talk) 02:37, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

  • I think I got it now? The image is a bit tinier than I'd like, but I am not sure how to fix that without messing everything else all up again, lol.
    FalloutGirlMM01 04:23, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
  • Ok, this is the final product, I finally got the image to a better size. What do you think? Thanks so very much for your help :o)

FalloutGirlMM01 06:49, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

"Experimenting" Edit

Hi Jspoel,

I don't know if it was experimenting so much as screwing up, but thanks for being nice about it and calling it experimenting, lol. I had already discovered that it led me to the wrong page and not my profile page, also, so I got some help from Yes-Man who was kind enough to help, because I couldn't figure out what I was doing I appreciate that edit you did, but he fixed that for me a bit earlier and I guess I forgot to leave the edited version on your page. As for the image, I guess she did look a little tall (*sob*). I was hoping she'd show up a bit better. But okay, you are the boss :o) And truthfully, I think it looks better that way, now that I'm looking at it from your perspective.

Thank you again for all of your help with the 'talk image' stuff! I'm glad you helped talk me into getting an image, you were the one who first mentioned it.
FalloutGirl MM01 14:50, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

  • Yes, most was fixed earlier...I just now fixed the height with your code. Thank you again for being so helpful.

Corvega "Paradise" Edit

Where are you getting the refernace for "Paradise", if its the Billboards Fallout 3 & New Vegas the slogan on them is Driving Paradise. It referse to the brand Corvega not a spacific automobile.

Is far as I can referance there are 4 kinds of Corvega, the Atomic V8 model, the unnamed 4 door, the Billboard only mentioned unnamed Bubble top (what I think you are refering to), and the Original corvega from the original Fallout.--Ant2242 16:36, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reverted edit on SMC terminal entries page Edit

Had no idea it was you, I simply blocked as a precaution to prevent further removal edits (as it looked like vandalism). Once I checked it was a valid edit, I revert all my actions including the block. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 22:03, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ulysses' mask redirects Edit

Hi Jspoel,

Thanks for your help with the Ulysses mask page. I'm a little confused about the redirects and hope you can help. I created the page, but the history shows a whole list of previous edits. Does this mean that the page already existed? If so, why couldn't I find it? I pasted in all the content from my sandbox, but it says the page was made in September. Thought I'd ask you, as you mentioned the redirects.

Kind of wanted a page creation under my belt. :-) --FourWayDiablo(talk) 00:46, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looking over things, I think I'm just getting confused about how this all works. Kastera said he moved the content, but didn't I see where to as the page didn't exist to move it to, except as a redirect. I'm sure there's a logic to it, but it's making my brain go funny. --FourWayDiablo(talk) 01:19, October 11, 2011 (UTC)


Thanks my friend and you too, gelukkige verjaardag =), sorry little late, I was not there the 8th.

Also, I left The Vault for an indefinite period, so I wish you good luck and tell you that you have been a good friend here.

Tot binnenkort Jspoelstra ;)! Itachou [~talk~] 13:34, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

I detailed on my message to Guardian but since you want to know more, I will tell you why my friend =), copy paste with some changes.
Actually I got a promotion, I was appointed superviseur comptable (accounting supervisor), more money but more time working. I also met someone these days and that progresses more rapidly than expected (for the better). Also, I advance to the next level for my strength training, so now it happens once every two days.
These recent changes in my life took me considerable time and I don't think about being able to actually participate in the life of The Vault and other Wiki. I expected a twist of fate to really give myself fully to real life in the full sense of the term and not just go to work and return in my home, inexorably. I'm sorry to leave like that but I have everything in hands and I would like not messed up like the last time, something I talk with Guardian, about music.
It's probably not the last time we speak but the last time before a long time. See you one of these days my friend and keep up the good works, as always ;). Itachou [~talk~] 13:59, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm also sad to leave, but sadly everything has an end, the best is to enjoy it a maximun before the end, what life taught me everytime.

For the past a long story but I wanted to be a musician, but one of my best friend where I was doing with him dropped me at an unwelcome time and I lost motivation in this direction, and also the hope of any improvement in my live.

Well, it's may be not a farewell, but it's close enough. People more talented than me are still here, I'm not worried. Haha, I'm just a strand of wheat in the cornfield =). Bye Jspoelstra, and thanks for everything. Itachou [~talk~] 14:38, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Questin' Mark page Edit

Hi Jspoel, was just wondering whether or not we really need the "Image needed" box for the Questin' Mark challenge because it doesn't have an image asscociated with it in the game. Unless we just use the generic Trophy and Flowers Vault boy that goes with ther perk challenges.

-Fair enough, might as well use the image for all of them considering it seems to be the one used for all challenges, or at least the ones that reward perks.

~Hipster Dash~ --The Pony Overlords are watching 18:46, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Itachou Edit

As far as I know, achievements and trophies do not have baseids - have you seen a page which states otherwise? Sad news regarding Itachou, but real life is more important than online activities after all. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:19, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

That's a challenge which adds an achievement upon completion :) I.e. there's both a challenge (with an ID) and an achievement (without an ID) with that name. If you click on the "..." button to the right of "Reward Script", you'll see that upon completion of that challenge both XP and an achievement are given. I'd put both a challenge and an achievement infobox on that page, similar to how quests which reward an achievement have both a quest and an achievement infobox. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:56, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Tommy gunEdit

The Tommy gun page used to be disambig page, but then I made into an overview page. Would you mind looking over it to see if it's good to go, kind of like a peer review? --Kastera (talk) 23:15, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

New Character PagesEdit

Hey Jspoelstra, I was wondering if anyone who wanted to could be able to make character pages for the characters seen on nuka break?

Thanks- Logan, Champion of Justice

Template/Infobox quest Edit

Hey. In template:Infobox quest the one parameter doesn't work. I mean, "px", if you can, replace this with "image size". Thx. --Maiar 15:06, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal report Edit

A vandal created a .kbjvh. It might be gone when you read this, but thought I should let you know. All the best, --FourWayDiablo(talk) 17:27, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Companion weaponsEdit

Truth is, I don't have a G.E.C.K., as explained in GhostAvatar's page. [[1]] is the link where I look for info, as well explained on my talk page. What about Boone's machete and Arcade's ripper? 15:15, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

It is, perhaps, I spend too much time on the Vault... and these are the results. 15:33, October 14, 2011 (UTC)


Undead Hat 20:20, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Affilation Edit

Hey there, I had a question that has been troubling me. Is it necessary to place 'himself' or 'herself' in the affilation portion of the infobox when the character is not affiliated with anyone? Thanks, HighFiveBearLeftHighFiveBearRight 23:33, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Another user Edit

Will you take a look at User:XxAarchangeLxX? He is doing some odd things. He has wiped his talk page twice, and just created a page on the mainspace that didn't belong, a custom weapon. I tried to let him know that he needed to use a custom user page for something like that but I don't think he understood because shortly after User:Zeke's Hand Cannon registered, which was the name of his page that got deleted. I don't think hes malicious, just confused. BILLYOCEAN Wanna talk? 23:46, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yea I'm just trying to figure this out. Feel free to eliminate that other account, I got it now. ~XxAarchangeLxX 09:11, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thanks for un-banning me from chat :)

Melee Weapons Edit

I was on the Melee Weapons page and noticed that the upper info box image was missing and I can't find out what happened by going through the page history. UserGreatMaraMessage 17:57, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well this was a weird one. The image was there, but didn't show until I uploaded a new version. Seems there is an issue with wikia. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 18:19, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
If both uses are 0, then I cant see it as being used at all. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 10:26, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Article creation templates Edit

Do we still need the FNVLR/FNVCS-specific article layouts or can they be removed? -- Porter21 (talk) 18:38, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. Edit

The only thing I need to be aware of is who's in chat with me. --O_O 00:48, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

I wonder why they didn't have a "tune-out" feature like you see in online games. If someone insults you, just go to their user picture select a cleverly-named option and *snaps finger* problem solved. Wonder why no one's thought of that, might come along eventually. --O_O 01:01, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal Edit

Hey, ban this guy: Richie9999 02:13, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal Edit

Hey there, I caught this anon vandalizing Victor's page. Thanks! HighFiveBearLeftHighFiveBearRight 21:31, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

why did you delete my codex page i have been playing fallout since follout 1 and you come in and with you noob ass oh iv played the last two game and i thing i know every thing go to hell


Really? It didn't look like this when you were on the page? It looked that way to me, thus it really needed a resize. --Kastera (talk) 00:36, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I understand now. I thought when you were saying that the resize is unnecessary, that you were lookign at a different image than I was, but now I realize you were saying that you shouldn't have to put a resize in. Sorry about my confusion. --Kastera (talk) 00:52, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Liberty Prime sound files Edit

You are indeed right, that id the problem. The only way to keep them off there is to permanently have them linked to from a page. You can do what I did with the dialogue files and redirects for the orphaned pages (User:GhostAvatar/MSG index). User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 16:17, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Bad page Edit

Anon just created this page on the recent activity, it is calle black mans hole. I think you know what to do lol. Thanks, HighFiveBearLeftHighFiveBearRight 22:35, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Edit

Maybe you left me a message or perhaps its automated. Any way, looks like congratulations are in order so congratulations and thanks for your contributions to the Fallout community and this resource. --Sativarg 01:22, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Redirecting images Edit

I am doing it so my bot doesn't pick up the image names as false positives. I am also adding in the pages that link to the old image names, so once it has run through and changed all them, they will show up on the orphaned pages, which I will then delete the old image redirects. Essentially the redirects are a temp thing since I am doing all the gamebryo weapons in a batch.

And yes, the way you added the sound files, it was linking to the page and not the file. So it didn't show as the file was needed, what I have done should remove them for tomorrow. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 22:20, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Weight. Edit

Hi there, Sorry to bother you again, but this thought was crossing my mind. Perhaps it is silly I don't know. In many articles, the weight of weapons is referred to as pounds. As Fallout is a worldwide game, couldn't it very well be kilograms. I just undid an edit where I switched the word "units" to pounds. As I thought about it more, using "units" would make more sense. Tell me what you think. Cheers, HighFiveBearLeftHighFiveBearRight 01:01, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up!:)

Metro protectron‎ Edit

Just to let you know, I think it would be better to direct these to the overview page, just in case they show up in future games. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 17:26, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Probably best to do as I did with the P90c and transclude the sections to the page. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 17:59, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Inappropriate avatar?Edit

Hi Jspoel, how are you? This user has a gas masked man with a Waffen-SS hat on... I felt, that following the recent spate of problems with Nazism, I should ask him to change it, but what do you think? User:Felix_Brehh TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 20:49, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Waffen SS wasn't even necessarily a "Nazi" element, they just happen to be a branch of the Nazi German army. The reason for Luckmann's ban was not the fact that he was a national socialist, nor any similar iconography, such as eagles, but that he had "racist" terms such as "aryan" and "master race" in his profile. I do not see a problem with that avatar. Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
  • ADDENDUM: This is the same things as having a Soviet flag as an avatar, really, if that is allowed, so should this.
Okay, fine by me :). Thanks for the opinions guys. See you soon Jspoel, TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 21:24, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
Hahaha, yes it was thank you Jspoel. Especially seen as I was quite annoyed about being sworn at and the message being in the wrong place... I just wish it was on something more worthwhile. TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag
If you were concerned about inappropriate avatars, there's a user who was here long before any of us called Vault4. However, I doubt we could ask them to change it seeing as they are no longer active here. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 22:09, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, well, not the response I was expecting! Well, either way, the guy never comes here anymore so I suppose there's no point in trying to contact them. And besides, the only way people would find his avatar is if they were reading ancient blog posts and forums from another era... Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 22:17, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Picture Edit

Thanks for that! The pictures confuse me sometimes lol. The fruits of my labor at Subway have payed off and I bought myself a beautiful desktop, so I will be helping a little more on here. HighFiveBearLeftHighFiveBearRight 21:11, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

I will. Oh and Subway is a chain of sandwich restaurants that use kind of a cafeteria line deal to make custom sandwiches. My position is called a sandwich artist lol.

Alright, sorry to bother you but, if I were to change a page's name to have a formal title such as Mr. or Mrs would that be acceptable? eg. Jobs to Mr. Jobs? By the way the character is mentioned only.

Sincerely, Tim to the Adams 21:32, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Edit

I would just like to thank you personally for voting for me. Now that I'm a moderator, I'll do my absolute best to ensure that your vote does not go to waste. Thank you, Jspoel and cheers! Almighty Higgey (talk page) 21:56, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks...the page I had in mind was Marks. It was odd to me because when it described the appearance it stated Mrs. Marks in bold lettering as she is Allen Marks' mother, and was indeed mentioned only. Well, thanks again. Sincerely, Tim to the Adams 21:56, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Oh sorry about that! I just wanted to make a quick edit! I apologize for any inconveniences that may have caused you.

A smart guy. Edit

You may want to invest small time into the anonymous user's edits here. --Gauzz Rifle ( talk  · contribs) 02:50, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fruit page Edit

Lol, you got ahead of me with the water page, I was thinking that as well. But didn't think about the alcohol page. But I am seeing a lot of overview pages with only one item in it for consumables. This isn't just restricted to consumables as well, things like the deathclaw gauntlet could also do with a merge. I think these could also be combined with other gauntlets like the mantis and yao guai etc. But they all need to be looked at and see where things can be combined into a more general overview page. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 03:09, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the carrot and potato from the page, it was my mistake and late that I suggested that we merge vegetables into a fruits overview page hihi. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 18:12, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Lolz, I didn't actually realise hihi. And yeah I think we have made an impact, although my edits have suffered due to always adding to the bot, but it all benefits the wikia. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 18:22, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Collision Edit

Hi Jspoel,

I was just cleaning up the layout of Fat Man (GRA). The comparison table is still smashed into the infobox (as it was before I started). It looked okay in preview, apart from the blank space. Is there a way to fix this?

Thanks, --FourWayDiablo(talk) 18:41, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I tried a refresh, but I'm still seeing what is shown in your picture; half the comparison table hidden under the infobox, with a button on the right to reveal the whole table. It may just be my pc, I guess, but it doesn't look right at all. --FourWayDiablo(talk) 19:05, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay then. But compare Fat Man (Fallout: New Vegas). The spacing looks the same to me, but the table is below the infobox. Ghost Avatar has just commented about the table length, so I guess that's it. Thought both tables were the same, though. --FourWayDiablo(talk) 20:11, October 22, 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for rerouting my Deus Ex account Jspoel. Not on it as often now Itachou's gone, but still thanks. I accidentally used it a few times, so I thought it was best to redirect them to avoid confusion. TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 19:41, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

No, unfortunately not. We effectively spoke everyday for three months, so I thought it would make sense to keep in touch. I hope he'll check back on my birthday on Tuesday, but I doubt it. It would have been very hard for him to go in the first place, so I'm not sure he would want to read the farewell messages... Do you see what I mean? TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag
Exactly. I hope he does :), then again, I think we all do, apart from maybe Nitty ;). Anyway, my turn, why have you changed the Vault Boy and minigun to the speech bobblehead? Something I keep meaning to ask. TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag
Well, that makes perfect sense :). I'll leave you alone now ;). TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 20:15, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Birthday Edit

Thanks for the birthday congrats!

I'll probably celebrate by playing Fallout: NV. That's the normal custom, isn't it? :-)

Thanks also for your great work here. You and the other admins have made me feel welcome. I'll save you some cake! --FourWayDiablo(talk) 00:39, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Friends may not appreciate that right now - it's 1.50 am here. All the more cake for me >_<.

RE: Weapon Edit

Sorry for the weapon movings. But is it alright if I change "NCR" to "New California Republic in articles? By the way, thanks for lifting my chat ban, but I'm just an 11-year-old fagola (no offence to homosexuals intended) who has social problems meaning I should be banned. --Andrey (White storm) 03:46, October 23, 2011 (UTC)


It's a joke poll Js, to celebrate Fallout Day, I added a disclaimer at the bottom. - Crazy Sam10 Talk PollShadowAttackSmallAni 03:48, October 23, 2011 (UTC)


I really appreciate you deleting a comment that was a joke and meant to be funny. Thanks so much. Shadowrunner(stuff) 16:09, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Armor page conversion Edit

Well, most armor images are hitting the width limit, not the height one, so I don't think increasing the limit will have much of an effect (but I've raised it a bit nonetheless). As for the icon offset (the unused space at the top), it's something Avatar requested to avoid having the icon overlap the main image in infoboxes with transparent images, so it's probably best if you discuss with him whether this infobox should use the icon offset or not (and how big the offset should be if any). -- Porter21 (talk) 16:41, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

If you have questions/problems, feel free to ask :) -- Porter21 (talk) 23:34, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Comment deletion Edit

Uninformed and potentially disruptive. Call it a pre-emptive strike. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 17:26, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Block timeEdit

I used one day because it was the time length we agreed to awhile back for anons as they can be different people if they are not using static ip's. If we have changed it I was unaware.--Kingclyde 20:43, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Just a quick tip Edit

This edit has the same effect, it may save you some time in the future with other overview pages. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 20:50, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, but the dashes have to bo on there own line. If you edit the page, you will see what I mean. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 21:00, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
Doesn't time fly, I was only looking at that not so long ago to see if it expired yet. Seems like it was only yesterday I checked, but it has been a couple of days hihi. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 21:06, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Apart from the cola wars reference, the rest is valid and can stay (just needs to be placed under interactions instead). As for the reference, that (if it was to stay) would better be placed in the Nuka-Cola page, calling notice to the parallels between there story and the real world Cola Wars. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 21:20, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Promotional crossover contentEdit

Hello, Jpoelstra. Can you please look at this forum topic? Your opinion would be highly appreciated. veryblackraven 07:21, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

I only added navigation boxes and all the additional characters I added where involved in side quests, it deserves more editing than just the 10 or so names it has currently. It should be like the New Vegas and Fallout character boxes as there were more main characters than the ones in the current navbox


Sure thing, I'll put up my actual poll now, I'll disable the comments, but I'll leave it there as it was the joke for this week. - Crazy Sam10 Talk PollShadowAttackSmallAni 15:41, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 3 navbox Edit

Can I please continue to edit the Fallout 3 navbox as all of the other game navboxes have some very small characters in them such as Dixon in New Vegas. I only added people involved with major quests so can I re-edit it please?

Thank you :)

Sonic Emitter CharacteristicsEdit

I'm putting it on the main Sonic Emitter (weapon) page. I was hoping to transclude it back, but I might need help with that. Five Four Plus 17:35, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

  • Is there not a way to do both? Standardize the bulk, and add specific characteristics?


Hey, I appreciate you taking some time to help me out, especially since I hadn't even asked. Between the video you left up and the policy link Kingclyde gave me, I shouldn't cause any problems with this in the future.

Thanks again, XxSick DemonxX 18:07, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

NCR army Edit

Why lock the page

Block Edit

I have blocked Cjbeattie for a month based on his past contributions, this is not the first time that he's been in this kind of edit war with an admin or other users. All 4 times he's continuously undone edits insisting on inserting false information.---bleep196- 19:17, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't as much looking at his block logs as i was looking at his contributions page, from what i can see most of his edits have been involved in edit wars with others over information that he believed was true, but was actually not, or was not supposed to be inserted into articles, and every-time someone came in and undid it it seems as though he would go right back and undo that persons undo. And from what i can see he's done it 4 times now, so he's a repeat offender who's only really been banned once, and a chat ban at that. So essentially he just wasn't caught, or punished for his actions till now. The final call is up to you on the ban time, i won't press it any further beyond what i just presented. ---bleep196- 00:28, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Weapon mod images Edit

It was something I brought up during the testing period of the infobox with Poter. As such, there was an extra parameter added that allowed for the off setting of the icon to the main image. The infobox template was coded to a default of 15px, without option of it being overridden via a parameter on the pages infobox. I have corrected it with what I think is the correct way, so in instances like this we can adjust it on a needed only case per page. But, I would wait for the go ahead from Porter before using it on any more pages. I am just going to drop him a message to let him know what modifications I have done. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 19:38, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Making the offset customizable is fine; I'm going to change other infoboxes with predominantly transparent images so they support this as well. I've also changed the default setting for the icon offset in {{Infobox item}} to "@outside" so overlapping shouldn't be an issue. -- Porter21 (talk) 13:01, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Design document Edit

Noticed your edits on the design documents, they need to be keep as close to the originals as possible, including spelling mistakes and typos. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 20:43, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well I noticed that you have corrected some typos and also de-capped a few items. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 20:46, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
I have added a sic tag to the dusty;s User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 20:53, October 24, 2011 (UTC)


How do you find the single redirects and not just the doubles? Don't worry, I'm not going to steal your edits, but I would quite like to know ;). Do you remember what today is too? TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag

Yes that's right, thanks for remembering :). Yes, I could drive last year, but now I can vote, and unlike the USA, drink. Not too fussed about that one to be honest,but it's nice to say you can ;). Anyway, that's quite the list, would you like any help doing them? I could be like your apprentice ;). TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 19:07, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
Haha, the party was a few days ago. Sorry I forgot to invite you ;). On a serious note, what do you mean a clean list? Shouldn't we try to keep indirect redirects to a minimum. I know these are the pages, but how do you detect them in the pages, like you did on my user page a few days ago? TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 19:25, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
I see now :). Right, I'll keep an eye on the doubles then. Thanks Jspoel ;). TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 19:48, October 25, 2011 (UTC)


Skill magazines. Edit

I was under the assumption that skill magazines are non-notable since they're found everywhere and are a renewable resource. Skål! 20:16, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

I thought that was the whole point of having pages dedicated to fixed locations for items such as skill magazines, etc.? Seems redundant to also have that information on different scattered pages. As for my edits... When I first became active I was doing a lot of major/semi-major re-writes (Not just removing information and minor edits like I am now). I wanted to join a project or two but I didn't have time because of work/school. I have even less time now that I'm having to deal with the courts and so the quality and range of my edits have suffered. (The main reason why I haven't even tried becoming a moderator/admin is because of how little time I usually have to spend on this wiki). Maybe if life isn't so hectic for me in the future, I can sit down and dedicate parts of my days to making more serious and beneficial changes to The Vault. Until then? I have to work with what time and resources at my disposal. I hope you can understand. Skål! 21:34, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up.

--DROXZ25 22:22, October 25, 2011 (UTC)DROXZ25

Question Edit

Why are you not a bureaucrat yet? You definitely should apply for it. Death From AboveUnbroken Steel -Talk- 00:31, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Delete page Edit

Hi, It doesn't look like any admins are on so I'll just tell you, or maybe someone else will see it. This wierd page was just created about super mario? It's called "In newfrog buy cheap toys' created by a user RobinChen. Thanks, HighFiveBearLeftHighFiveBearRight 06:39, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Layout opinion Edit

Hello Jspoel,

I'd like your views on the sub-categories added to Characteristics here and on other pages.

I don't like them, for the reasons given here, but would welcome another opinion on the matter.

Thanks for your time, --FourWayDiablo(talk) 17:55, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take your silence to mean you're not particularly interested in this. >_< No problem.--FourWayDiablo(talk) 18:26, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't hear back, so didn't know if you read it. Anyway, you're an admin! It's your sworn duty to reply to trivial and annoying questions on a daily basis! ^_^

Problem is, Nemerian hasn't replied either. I've no intention of chasing him around and re-editing all the sections. I wanted to get some sort of consensus to avoid a cycle of tiresome reverts. The first "Specifications" header, at least, is unnecessary.

All the best, --FourWayDiablo(talk) 18:51, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Case by case, then. I'd still argue that in this instance "characteristics" and "specifications" essentially mean the same thing, making the latter redundant and unsightly. --FourWayDiablo(talk) 21:25, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Greatly damaged page due to vandalism Edit

There is a vandal on an I.P, who vandalized the console commands page for Gamebryo. The guy placed other game name, racist content, sexual innuendo into the page. I hardly continue to revert his edits, but he seemed a 'skillful' editor. When I revert his edits, his edits are still shown. A month block would rest this vandal. --Gauzz Rifle (Animus 2.0) (talk  · contribs) 07:58, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

IPs involved on the console command page Edit,,,,, and Nothing specifically came up saying if they were a proxy or not like it usually does when I look up IP addresses though. UserGreatMaraMessage 08:39, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


Well, that's weird... all my badges are still there, it's the the value that is mucked up. According my calculations, I should have 6690, but I don't. I'll maybe wait a day. just to see if it's a bug in Wikia's servers. If not, I'll report it to Wikia. Do you know where I should contact?

On the topic of icon images, thanks for all the work you've done on it. I started the night before last on it, but then I had to make my poll and I totally neglected it yesterday, so hopefully I can do something before you get to all of it ;). --Kastera (talk) 13:38, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

  • Good things come to those who wait. My rank sorted itself out. --Kastera (talk) 19:26, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
Haha, you think too highly of me. I only had 6790 before it mucked itself up and them I recently got a gold badge. So I'm right back where I started, and then some.


Just a quick note: I love the most recent image, glad you've started to do them again :). TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 11:42, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I love that you love doing them because it makes the Vault so much better :). Also, I do. Could you do a dramatic shot of the Washington Monument, maybe looking down the lake in the middle with the needle on the right hand side? That would be my ultimate picture :). TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 15:48, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
Also, I don't suppose you coul help me out with the bot? You see, when I am in chat on it, the guys like to kick it for fun. It's not this I mind (I think it is generally quite funny), but I noticed that if I am logged in as the bot, then I cannot use my mod powers. I don't suppose it would be possible to bring my bot up to the same level of powers as me? Also, congrats on the latest lucky badge :). TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 18:43, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Jspoel :). And is that the picture?! It immense even if it's not...
No, that's exactly what I was after thanks Jspoel :). Also, you have the wrong aerial. You want that one (aerial) because the other one is like a television arial, and a font too ;). Thanks again Jspoel :). Do you mind if I use it somewhere? TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag 19:16, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
Now it won't go to waste, and people will also get to see it :) -> User:Ug-Qualtoth/Talk page/Archive 1#My template for notification of bans

The DivideEdit

I have come across some info, but I can't add it, as it's locked. Could you add in the Divide page, section Behind the scenes, this: "The Divide is a Latin word for seperated." 14:21, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Super mutant files Edit

This is why I am changing the names of the files. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 19:25, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome Screenshots Edit

Just wanted to thank you for all those good screenshots you've been adding lately. Many will make good wallpapers and reference images. Cheers!

Three little vandals Edit

I have caught three vandals today.

1. inserting nonsense/gibberish on Things That Go Boom.
2. inserting nonsense/gibberish on the Wild Wasteland, Johnny Five Aces section.
3. Taiwan2111 removing content on Pre-War outfit (Fallout 3), on the gallery. --ezioauditore (Animus Inbox  · Memories) 11:31, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Another one here --ezioauditore (Animus Inbox  · Memories) 12:53, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
Another two again. Both is inserting false info. The I.Ps are and --ezioauditore (Animus Inbox  · Memories) 13:21, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Patient Zero Edit

Hi Jspoel,

The inventory info of Patient Zero may be incorrect. I left a note on the spore carrier talk page before the split.

All the best, --FourWayDiablo(talk) 19:07, October 30, 2011 (UTC)


Removed all info from the protectron page.
Thanks. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 22:05, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Cool, just making sure he got the punishment he deserved. Thanks, J.

The list of NV Armor/Clothing Edit

How would I edit the Navbox for NV armor/clothing? I noticed in the eyewear section, they have Dr. Klein's and Dr. Mobious's glasses listed, but they aren't seperated with a comma or with italics, for they are DLC content. I would like to know how to edit it, thanks. Charcoal121 22:09, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Response Edit

Good to know. Thanks. Charcoal121 22:19, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Troll in the Chat room Edit

We have a troll in the chat room at the moment, we have no admins or mods present and ghost avatar bot is away even though i have PMd him about the troll. The trolls account name is User:Break ALL-The Rules, please do something about this idiot please, thanks. AaaaaThe Netherealm awaits for you 04:20, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


Yes, I always mix up 'how' and 'who'. It would be so much more helpful to be able to rename polls, but it doesn't work like that :/. --Kastera (talk) 13:36, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Troll Follow Up Edit

Hi just comeing back to say thanks, AMP had wished me a happy bday in the chat room and the troll said fuck you to me and it went from there so you can understand my frustration, anyways i fixed the signature, was ment to do it earlier but never got around to it till now. AaaaaThe Netherealm awaits for you 14:01, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

A "Wikia contributor" Edit

Can you check this one's edits? You may be interested. --Gauzz Rifle (talk  · contribs) 10:14, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

I was a bit dyslexic. Sorry for bothering ya. --Gauzz Rifle (talk  · contribs) 12:18, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Editing Edit

On the Martin Retslaf page, it says it has been locked from being edited. Can you or another admin do away with that? If it is for a good reason, I guess it will just have to stay, however. Charcoal121 22:14, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Mmm... Edit

Thanks. I was actually going to add that, thanks for the warning. Charcoal121 22:24, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

One year anniversaryEdit

Happy one year anniversary here at The Vault! You're top on the achievements track, achieved adminship, got 54,000+ edits; sounds like a good year to me. --Kastera (talk) 12:54, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, I'll do that. On a side note, looking at my milestone edits, I've made 1,000 edits in a week only twice (technically one was a week and 14 hours, but who's counting?). Your fingers must be on fire! --Kastera (talk) 17:27, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, really? Can I ask what you're thinking about for your 100K?

Acceptable avatar? Edit

Can you check Lorand Nobodyknowsme's avatar and inform me whether it is acceptable or not? --GauzzRifleSigpic "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." 08:56, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

And by the way, take care of Panlew. He got interesting contributions. --GauzzRifleSigpic "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." 09:06, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

hi maybe if you would let me finalize the post it would look great.

Vandal Edit

Hey, vandalized the Linden's Outcast power armor page and then undid his edit. Richie9999 17:28, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Found another one:

Richie9999 18:09, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yet another one. Seems I'm getting a collection. Richie9999 01:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like this one doesn't like me, vandalized my user page he did! Richie9999 05:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

E-mail Edit

Could you please e-mail me at Ausir(talk) 17:52, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

50000 Club Edit

You might care to tell a story to this question. What is the 50000 Club? --GauzzRifleSigpic "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." 01:12, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Question Edit

Hey I have a question. On article pages for NPCs is it Effects of Player actions or Effects of Player's actions? Richie9999 02:44, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

  • Thanks, I'mma work on fixing articles to say Effects of Player Actions. I wanted to figure out which it was before I changed anything. Richie9999 03:05, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Spam detected Edit

Rebox Fight Gloves (and the only contributor is --GauzzRifleSigpic "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." 07:44, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Chat IssuesEdit

Well, thanks for giving me chat back.

Only problem is that it constantly gives me a "you have connected from another browser. This connection is closed" message... :( Gamerdude132 16:42, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Seen the bad news?Edit

Goth is leaving... TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag

Strategies Edit

Hi Jspoel,

As an example, in the Notes section of Disguised Frumentarius, do PC console commands count as strategy/cheats? What's the policy on this?

All the best, --FourWayDiablo(talk) 19:23, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. On the same subject, the Notes here about the pop-up messages. I just rewrote it, but wasn't sure how much to leave in. Maybe should be left as a statement ending "...minutes to clear", with no tips added? --FourWayDiablo(talk) 20:52, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Tweaked the Laurifer Gladiator notes. This "No Strategy" rule is getting blurry. ^_^ The more I look at the PC console one, the less I'm sure. If he dies (or e.g. Dhatri or whoever), then that's just a thing that happened and bad luck for the player. Is PC resurrection intended by the designers? --FourWayDiablo(talk) 21:36, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'm certainly not arguing its usefulness, but that's my point. "Keep reloading saves until the slots come up three oranges" is a strategy, "Fast travel to location X repeatedly" or "Type this until the Frumentarius lives and you get what you want" are basically the same thing. They are perfectly acceptable ways to play the game, but should they be noted on Vault pages? --FourWayDiablo(talk) 22:40, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Chat Picture Edit

Alright, I would like to know how to save a picture from the Vault chat i.e. like a screenshot of sorts but from Vault chat. A good example of this is in GhostAvatar's page under Funny of the week, where it is a picture of the page in general. Thanks for your time.

Sincerely, Tim to the Adams 00:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Tim to the Adams 00:48, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Forum Edit

Sorry about that and thanks! HighFiveBearLeftHighFiveBearRight 15:57, November 8, 2011 (UTC)


For ending that proxy attack :) TheGuardianCalligraphyGuardianoftheWastesTag

Morse Code Edit

Should Morse code be capitalized in the body of articles or should it be a lower case morse? Richie9999 21:42, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can you pleaseEdit

Lock my page so that only registered users may edit it? As an Administrator I'm sure with's within your power. It is a personal page and I don't want to have to deal with childish vandalism. I take care of the Wiki when I can, and I worked very hard making my profile what it is today. Thank you. RoccoFinesse 05:58, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Enclave Edit

When that article will be unlocked?
On the other hand if you can, update the notable members section. (Grant, Howard).
Thanks. --Languorous_Maiar 16:06, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

I appreciate you locking my page. I don't mind registered users I am friends with making edits to my page, as they are always constructive. I just want to keep vandals away from it. Once again, thank you very much. RoccoFinesse 19:19, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving Edit

Yeah, I had the same issue with mine and had to do it manually. I assume it is a issue with the archive being double digits. The problem is, that I only know basic JavaScript, so I doubt I will be able to do much. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 01:00, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

If I am reading this right (which I am probably not), it seems the query to determine the current archive structure is set to 1 digit. So it counts up from 1 and reaches its limit at 9, then never counts passed 9. So if you have more than 9 archive pages, it will always count to 9 then adds 1 and try to make an archive 10. There needs to be some kind of if switch, that changes the variable to 2 digits if archive 9 exists.
And I don't see anything wrong with Poters talk page, seems to be working Ok for me in all browsers. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 01:26, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
I noticed a minor mistake in what I posted on his talk page, but since the issue is not showing for me, can you confirm that it is Ok now. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 01:30, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
It only counts up to 9, then it adds plus 1 to create the new page. So it can create a double digit, but not count it when it is determining what the new archive page should be. It simply gets stuck at trying to create page 10. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 01:52, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
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