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Sincerely, Jspoelstra (talk) 23:19, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Old North Bridge

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Note to self: the Old North Bridge is an unmarked location Fallout 4 (and consequently so is the Concord River). Evidence is here, and this pic is a good visual aid. Sanctuary Hills circa 2077 is a subdivision built on what in the real world is the Minute Man National Historical Park, Old North Bridge is the primary entrance, and the paved footpath through the park is replaced by the subdivision's street. According to Google Earth, there is no corresponding hill behind a creek in the park where Vault 111 would go, so that must be artistic license for the game. 21:31, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Clockpuncher (talk) 23:25, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

A personal welcome

I wanted to drop this more personal welcome to you. I certainly understand the reluctance to creating an account. Most of use either lurked or edited as anons before we created accounts. Either way, just know that your contributions, whether they be many or few, are as important as those who have thousands of edits. You handle yourself with dignity and poise, and those are qualities I like to see around here, regardless of any actual positions you take on matters. I hope you decide to stick around and contribute some more, as it's always good to see new editors who take an active stake in what goes on here. Welcome aboard.  The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons.png 17:48, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, mighty kind of ya. I'm actually no stranger to wikis, but these days I mostly drift around depending on what I happen to be interested in at the moment. You'll see me here and there until I tire of Fallout 4 or get hooked on something else. Until then, I hope I can make a positive impact in my own nitpicky way.Clockpuncher (talk) 20:50, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
Gunny beat me too it, but I wanted to say welcome too. Nice to see an anon user be interested enough to make an account so they can vote. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?"UserRichard.png 12:52, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Clockpuncher (talk) 20:39, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Memorial Vote

I have reopened the memorial vote. I have removed all votes, and all comments due to the unpleasantness and questions over what the vote was for. I have reframed it around the intention of the vote, and would ask that all participants read through my comments about removing the previous comments. This isn't directed at anyone, this just a message I'm sending all participants. This is a recording. Agent c (talk) 18:17, August 11, 2015 (UTC)


Why are you removing the wasteland title from state names on commonwealth pages without bringing it up on the talk pages first? I'm against it. "Space. The final frontier." ~The-Artist-64 (talk) 23:07, November 4, 2015 (UTC)The-Artist-64

Why does it need to be brought up? They're not official, canon names for those locations. Someone just stuck the word "Wasteland" to everything. Clockpuncher (talk) 23:09, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
I am opposed to this action. Can we discuss this before you go ahead with the edits? Seeing as the states are gone after the war, adding 'wasteland' to a state's title name is reasonable. "Space. The final frontier." ~The-Artist-64 (talk) 23:11, November 4, 2015 (UTC)The-Artist-64
I'll hold off from editing the other pages, but I won't revert my existing edits.
I don't think adding "Wasteland" to state names is reasonable unless that's what the state/region is explicitly referred to in canon material. D.C. is now the "Capital Wasteland". Okay. The Las Vegas area is now the "Mojave Wasteland". I see the trend there. But then we have the Boston/Massachusetts area, which from the leaks is confirmed to be the "Commonwealth", and places like Great Lanta, Ronto, and so on. We can't just assume that all places in the world have names which consist of "[Original location name] Wasteland". Yes, they're probably all wastelands ecologically, but that doesn't mean they're all called Wastelands. If you want to call Kansas the "Kansas Wasteland", I want to see proof that's an actual canon name for it. Otherwise we're misleading readers. Clockpuncher (talk) 23:21, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
How is it misleading? It's just describing a characteristic- it's Kansas, and it's a wasteland. I would argue that leaving it as 'Kansas' would be just as misleading; making them think that the region is still under a state name. "Space. The final frontier." ~The-Artist-64 (talk) 23:30, November 4, 2015 (UTC)The-Artist-64
If you're adding wasteland to the name with a capital W, you're creating a proper noun. "Kansas Wasteland" is a name, not name followed by a descriptive term, and as a name we have to evaluate its canonicity.
As for leaving the state names alone being misleading, I don't quite agree with you there either. The article is "Plains Commonwealth", right? Well, it should be about the Plains Commonwealth. The problem is we know almost nothing about the PC pre-War, but substantially more about it post-War, so what should be a pre-War article is filled with post-War material that has little to do with the PC as it once was. Unless we pare down the content of commonwealth pages to include only pre-War info (which I would prefer not to do to keep this content consolidated), what's wrong with listing pre-War states by their pre-War names, but describing what they've turned into now.
I am, however, amenable to a compromise: instead of letting the "Wasteland" names stay or leaving the state names by themselves, how about we add a different, more accurate descriptor to them? I propose adding the word "Former" before state names in the commonwealth articles, which would produce "Former Kansas", "Former New Jersey", "Former Ohio", etc. This provides a way to tell readers that Kansas ain't what it used to be, but we don't have an updated, post-War name for it yet like we do with the Capital Wasteland.
What do you say? Clockpuncher (talk) 00:08, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
Sure, I think that sounds fair. "Space. The final frontier." ~The-Artist-64 (talk) 00:49, November 5, 2015 (UTC)The-Artist-64

Excellent! I'm glad we were able to have a reasonable discussion about this. I'll update the pages. Clockpuncher (talk) 00:57, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

"The" in page name

Is there any particular reason that you renamed some of the Fallout 76 location articles to include "the" in the title? Generally locations shouldn't include the article, e.g. "Citadel" instead of "The Citadel".

Do the in-game map markers have "the" in the name?

- FDekker talk 11:32, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, the in-game map markers of those locations include "The". Clockpuncher (talk) 12:37, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
Interesting. I'll open a discussion on the talk page about the subject, see what others have to say about it.
- FDekker talk 12:46, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Commonwealth Health and Welfare Agency

In this edit you suggested that "C.H.W.A." may stand for "Commonwealth Health and Welfare Agency". Is there a real-world agency with a similar name? I mean, your suggestion makes sense, but I'd prefer to see a basis for the claim (otherwise it might as well be speculation).
- FDekker talk 18:42, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

I thought it might push into speculation territory a bit, but to my mind no other combination of words makes sense (except the near-identical "Commonwealth Health and Welfare Administration"). If there were multiple, highly dissimilar possibilities for CHWA's meaning in the note's context, I wouldn't have bothered with it. Unfortunately, the closest real-world equivalent I could find was the Massachusetts Department of Public Health, and obviously the names don't match. So if my addition is problematic, I have no objection to you removing it. Clockpuncher (talk) 00:02, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
I really think this is a borderline case: Even though the given meaning is logical, there is no reason to assume it's true—it could mean anything. Luckily, it looks like you're not too attached to your edit, so in that light I've decided to remove it as speculation.
- FDekker talk 19:12, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for Proofreading

Thanks for proofreading my entries. I type them in so fast that I forget to check them. I think you should be a patroller. Dango39 🍡 05:04, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

It's no problem, I enjoy reading things I haven't had the chance to see for myself in the beta anyway. I have no interest in being a patroller (I'm sort of a short-term editor, I'm only around when I have some spare time and while Fallout 76 holds my interest), but it's kind of you make the suggestion. Clockpuncher (talk) 05:16, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
I don't know how long I'll keep editing either once I'm able play the game 24/7. I do want to play it for myself without spoiling too much. Dango39 🍡 05:33, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, this is a way to pass the time until the game releases. I don't mind spoilers though. It's too bad the beta is so intermittent that I can't really dig into the story the way I'd like, instead I'm mostly sightseeing and getting a feel for the gameplay; I'm going to start fresh at launch. Then I'm probably incommunicado here until the next Fallout game. Clockpuncher (talk) 06:25, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
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