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Is there a style guide in place for walkthroughs? Some of the other detailed walkthroughs are written partially or entirely in second person (perhaps because they were originally written for other sites?), so I assumed that was okay. I plan to rework most of them, so if third-person is the standard I'll make it happen. P0cketpc (talk) 22:01, June 20, 2020 (UTC)

Zeta Gun uniqueness

Hi. Not sure why you have removed the description 'unique' from this item? The Zeta Gun is unique. Sure you can move its power to another item by moving the Zeta Dish mod, but there's still only one unique Zeta Dish. The fact that it's possible to obtain multiple copies of the Zeta Gun via glitching does not make it not a unique item. (And the glitching is referred to in the article already) By the standards and definitions of a unique item in this game, it is a unique item, as much as the Overseer's Guardian or any other. Spikezarkspike (talk) 11:35, April 23, 2020 (UTC)

OK thanks for the explanation that there are two actual Zeta guns, the other one is on Henry Cabot's body. May be worth adding that to the main article? I did know that actually, I just forgot. Thanks. Spikezarkspike (talk) 08:19, May 7, 2020 (UTC)


It's not that bad. I've seen just a few edits the last couple a days. Let's see how it goes. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 19:34, March 25, 2020 (UTC)


I wanted to let you know that I reverted some of your edits to location articles. The real world location information can sometimes border on supposition, but should not be outright removed without conversation. It is important, especially to maintain consistency with the locations based on real places list. Thank you for looking out, though. I appreciate it! -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 06:38, March 27, 2020 (UTC))


All the references: "User:Ant2242/Commonwealth#Porcupine"--Ant2242 (talk) 10:33, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

Better yet: I'll add them here so you can add the page to the wiki and I won't get banned for some retarded reason.


The Funnies Fallout 76 perk jokes

Joke #52: What do you call a porcupine love affair? A murder suicide.
Backwoodsman September issue
"I killed a bear with a PORCUPINE!"
Snake spear
Sulik: "{863}{slk64d}{A porcupine is not a pillow.}"
(KCSULIK.MSG) Note: xxxxx

Cannot tell what makes him say this line. Must be added in a notes section.

--Ant2242 (talk) 10:43, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

There are also a list of more fauna that I managed to cobble together. "User:Ant2242#Fauna" If you want to create some pages.--Ant2242 (talk) 11:00, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

Citation needed tags

Why is the citation needed tag "Not Needed"? For example: Williams (Libertalia) There is not one reference on that page. --Ant2242 (talk) 12:24, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

So you just removed the tag instead of referencing the article?--Ant2242 (talk) 12:30, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

But it is yours to just remove citation needed tags instead of referencing articles?--Ant2242 (talk) 12:36, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

Seems more like you prefer to not to reference, especially since "Williams (Libertalia)" has only one reference.--Ant2242 (talk) 12:49, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

If you prefer not to reference a page that doesn't give you licence to remover a citation needed tag.--Ant2242 (talk) 12:54, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

Gunners hierarchy

While it does open the door for speculation, I do think it is worth pointing out that, while they are levelled variants of Gunner, Gunners of higher ranks than the Gunner in charge of a base can be found. The fact a captain is in charge of their biggest and most important base while higher ranked officers are part of regular missions raises questions. Let's avoid an edit war about this. Aiden4017 (talk) 13:04, March 29, 2020 (UTC)


Hi Branebriar1930,

You've been blocked for a duration of 1 week in line with our standard escalation policies. This block is due to your recent removal of entire sentences from articles where rewrites are necessary to remove article to article comparisons of different weapons. Your edits are disruptive to the content of those articles, and detrimental to editors who have to follow after you and clean that up. This isn't your first offense, and you've been warned about this behavior before. Take the next week off to evaluate how you can better conduct yourself when it comes to these edits. ---bleep196- (talk) 23:57, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

Replying to your message, I saw was doubting when I saw you removing the comparisons. I was under the impression you had been discussing this with admins in Discord. Appearantly not? Then removing content that has stood there for more than 10 years is questionably. I'll send Bleep a message to consider reducing it to 3 days because I think you did it in good faith. I'll leave it up to him what to do with it. Just be careful removing content, especially if it was without discussion and content that has stood for a long time. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:12, March 31, 2020 (UTC)
I can see where you're coming from, it came from a good heart. I've forwarded the message to Bleep. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:48, March 31, 2020 (UTC)
Try it now. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 12:26, April 2, 2020 (UTC)

BoS ranks

I restored the ranks, it's giving a better overview. Use the rank of the character's most important appearance in a game I think. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:33, April 2, 2020 (UTC)

Crandon and the like

Is Crandon really affiliated with the whole city or is he only affiliated with the North Vegas denizens?--Ant2242 (talk) 14:41, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

I will. I believe "North Vegas denizens" is the best description, as there really isn't a formal town or faction. Are there any other characters that you can see with the same delema that you know of? If so can you add them as well?--Ant2242 (talk) 15:17, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Primm, Goodsprings (technically), Westside (technically) and Novac are settlements and a faction, however Freeside isn't a faction. The two factions... well three, are the Locals and Squatters, and the Kings. North Vegas is like Freeside, technically there isn't a single faction, however the local denizens of the New Vegas conurbation use it as a sort of town hub.

To the best of my knowledge the characters of Prim, Goodsprings, Westside, and Novac are fine. I don't know the status of the Freeside factions, and for North Vegas, again would "North Vegas denizens" be best? I think it might be cause there really isn't a faction there.--Ant2242 (talk) 17:54, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

If "resident" is better than "denizen" then cool, but Westside isn't like North Vegas. Westside has its own organized militia. ...which as far as I know is the faction, and I really need to emphasis "as far as I know." As there is also a "Westside co-op." To the best of my knowledge North Vegas Square has no real organized faction. It is literally just the semi-permanent hunter/gatherer/scavengers in the north of the Vegas conurbation...--Ant2242 (talk) 18:31, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Primm and Mojave Express are not exclusive factions, the former the town and the latter a company that Johnson Nash is employed.--Ant2242 (talk) 18:59, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Would then the questions become: "Is the Westside faction the Westside Militia?" and if so "Are all those within Westside a part of the Westside co-op?" ?--Ant2242 (talk) 19:08, April 3, 2020 (UTC)


I'll rewrite it to be clearer then, since being a sex slave isn't even the end of her abuse. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 14:38, April 4, 2020 (UTC)

Well the problem is subtle character traits are hard to reference. She displays far more traits then what I added, but it would be at the detriment of the article to reference every time she was overtly flirtatious at the drop of a hat, or all the times she mentions self-harm or displays her self-destructive attitude. Also, my reasoning for the reference about her being a sex slave is, as has been shown in other games and in Nuka-World, slaves are kept in their own quarters separate from the slavers. She wouldn't have access to a sleeping man's pocket unless she was sleeping with the slavers that had her. Also I think "The way they used me for their amusement. It sickens me to my stomach even thinkin' about it. But I bidded me time and learned to use their own methods against them." and since we know she bought her way out it makes it pretty clear. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 15:41, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
What I'm referring to is that slavers usually don't sleep close to their slaves. With the Pitt, they have uptown and downtown and are completely separated. But the confirmation for me is Cait 'using their methods against them' by stealing caps from their pockets implying they used her for sex and then just fell asleep after finishing. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 16:13, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
I'm not arguing over of the use of my words, this is about what's presented in the dialogue of the game. All the information needed to understand what she experienced is given in her dialogue and acting. She doesn't say directly because she's directly avoiding confronting her trauma. She's not going to come out and say "I was raped and abused by slavers and me parents because that's just the life I live"; she even says at one point she wants to avoid the details because they make her uncomfortable. And given her violent character, her job when found, and attraction ("likes") to violence and power, it definitely wasn't for doing anything relating to violence. The series as a whole expresses itself with more subtlety than directly stating it outright so anyone barely paying attention can get the whole picture with a single line of dialogue. The forest isn't a single tree. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 16:46, April 4, 2020 (UTC)


Keep it as it was I think. You've restored it already. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:04, April 4, 2020 (UTC)


It's close, I probably wouldn't have put it there myself, but Dave doing his best argumenting it with the referencing, suppose it it can stay. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 18:50, April 4, 2020 (UTC)

Edit Warring

Hello there,

I hope you are well during these uncertain times.

You have undone my undo. This constitutes as edit warring which is against our rules. I've seen the logic behind your actions. The proper course of action would've been to send me a talk page message before undoing my undo. Please keep this in mind for any future occasions.

Kind regards,

- Jgrsoto Coat of arms of Puerto Rico.png 14:15, April 14, 2020 (UTC)

oops. I didn't see your message. Thanks. Jgrsoto Coat of arms of Puerto Rico.png 14:15, April 14, 2020 (UTC)

Abraham Finch

That's weird Abigail giving him two different middle names. Guess I'll change it back then. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:28, April 18, 2020 (UTC)

You're being really hostile to anything relatively theoretical

Dude! You literately just deleted my edit on the wiki! You call it "Speculation". I clearly wrote, "MAY BE a reference to the etc." I wrote that I wasn't entirely sure that it was a reference, I wrote that it could be. I've seen your profile page and it shows that you have been editing pages to the point that the entire page which used to have like 11 paragraphs only has 2. You've been banned from editing because you basically destroy anything that doesn't have any evidence. I am really pissed at you, because that was my first edit, and if other people find their edits taken down, they're also gonna get pissed at you and soon enough, you'll get permanently banned. I'm sure you don't want that, so don't be so hostile to people just trying to improve the wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Hi Branebriar! While I absolutely agree with your revert, there's no reason to bite the newcomer. There's nothing wrong with making a mistake, so there's no need to burn someone into the ground for not knowing all the rules. While the anonymous user was a bit hot-headed in their response and made it unnecessarily personal, try to keep your head cool. When working with newcomers, the best approach is to have patience (it's just a wiki after all) and assume good faith (because if most users were evil, the wiki concept couldn't work in the first place).
- FDekker (talk) 18:23, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

Wait really? I didn't realize that. I mean most other pages usually have them, but okay--Xeno Fighter 451 (talk) 19:57, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

From Dusk till Dawn

Where did you get that first name being Dawn? It's in the dialogue, but it's a guess by the Lone Wanderer, jokingly connecting it to his last name being Dusk, and Dusk reacts funnily to it as well. So it's not any good if it comes from the dialogue. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:50, April 23, 2020 (UTC)


I wouldn't place the update icon first followed by the link on the location pages, but the other way around. You'll see it on the other game location pages as well. You may as well backtrack your weapon/ammo edits for the same thing. If there's nothing following a single link, put the link first and then the update icon. If there is text following a link, then put the icon first. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:01, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

re: VANS unreliability

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I think there needs to be a note on the page *somewhere* pointing this out: it's correct, and the bug significantly devalues the perk since the "problem" buildings that are hardest for players to visualise also tend to be the ones that suffer from it most.

Since you didn't explain why you removed it, I'm going to assume your objection is to the Clairvoyance reference rather than disputing the fact that it's buggy, so I'll remove that piece. In general though, it would be better if you edited such pieces yourself rather than simply reverting the whole edit without comment. If that's too much work for you when removing relevant content though, then sorry, but you need to just leave it alone and let someone else handle it. 04:52, May 1, 2020 (UTC)

Emerald Solo

See her Talkpage. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:23, May 1, 2020 (UTC)

Unsafe Work Conditions

Seems ok, I guess. You won't get easily banned now anymore, you have some weight under your belt now here. You'll probably see something on your talkpage first. Though those summary comments are needed if you go deep in the red. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 13:42, May 3, 2020 (UTC)

batch edits

I'm sorry, I didn't want to inconvenience. I didn't know you check every edit. I will try to make fewer edits.--SonikSeven (talk) 13:32, May 4, 2020 (UTC)

Where does SonicSeven make those batch edits? I don't see them. If you mean five or so on the power armor pages it's no problem. Look at the amount of images he's uploading there. See it in perspective. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 14:46, May 4, 2020 (UTC)



I know things have been a bit rocky for you here at Nukapedia, but I do see potential in you, and I do appreciate all of the work that you put into the wiki. I was wondering if you'd be interested in signing up for The Vault Academy?

P.S. Please be careful about using edit-summaries. They're there to note what sort of changes you make - not to dissuade other editors from contributing further. 寧靜 Fox.png 12:20, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Good morning! I hope you are well. Thank you for all of the work you are doing, as usual. I wanted to suggest in the edit summaries, to phrase changes in such a way that does not impugn the work of others. That way, they will see what they need to change without being discouraged. I know I have the urge to write some colorful things sometimes, so I totally understand :) Ta ta for now. -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 14:14, May 6, 2020 (UTC))

Hello! The Tour of Duty page was perfect. I was referring to the Unwashed Villagers page. I should have specified, sorry about that. I must need more coffee :) -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 14:32, May 6, 2020 (UTC))
Don't be too hard on yourself, everything is aok. I just know that the first thing someone said to me on the wiki was a positive thing, which kept me editing. And we need all the editors we can get! -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 18:52, May 7, 2020 (UTC))

Removing bts

Sounds reasonable to me. I appreciate your noggin! -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 01:44, May 10, 2020 (UTC))


- Good job deleting my contribution to the page a whole 2 seconds after I posted it. You wouldn't be calling it "speculation" if you checked the link I provided. As for not having a Trivia section... God forbid people find out a cool metatextual historical detail while reading this wiki. I have to wonder who put you in charge of notability.Preda (talk) 11:16, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

Far Harbor

What conflict would that be? If you have decent/enough content for it, with references, you can create a page for it. Someone can probably get an image for it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:23, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

Ok. should be able to have enough information for a page, go ahead then. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:47, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

some minor complaints

1. can you PLEASE stop looking through my edits and changing what i've edited? it's really starting to irritate me and many of the edits that seem out of place have been spoken though with a mod.

2. please bulk edit. when you've made an erroneous change, i can't undo it easily because you've got 2-3 edits to be undone. i know i'm a bit hypocritical here, but at least mine are fairly small. Kittybright (talk) 21:24, May 16, 2020 (UTC)

first of all, the 5.56 round page was exactly the same as the 5.56 round (Fallout 76), and was a direct copy from the overview is the exact same now, and you haven't edited it. i wonder why? oh yes, because what i copied on my first edit was what the transcribed text would've been anyway.

the reason it was a direct copy was because no one quite knew how to work out a way to get the numbers to work with transcribing, and i actually talked it out with a mod in the discord chat who said it was fine to put that in, as it was a section needed and wouldn't be a problem for long. it was also accepted in a public discussion, and i made sure i had at least 4 "ayes" of my edit before i made it. instead of immediately revoking, maybe think "hmm? why has this happened? it's not causing any problems currently, but it would be nice to know why." i've noticed a lot of people have made the same point on your talk page.

i currently have User:Sigmund_Fraud patrolling and looking through my edits. if there's an edit that's 1+ hour old, it's been patrolled, it's fine, you can leave it. the 5.56 round edit was 3 hours old, it was clearly accepted by a multitude of people.

now please, if you believe i've made an edit in error, raise the point with me before undoing. it may be something temporary, it may be a placeholder, it may be an edit that's accepted on the discord. if it's something that looks completely wrong, or a error in script or something i've explicitly asked help for, then feel free. just please stop making edits as if i'm acting in bad faith.


Please use the talk page to discuss the relevance of the note that the Courier does not have amnesia. Edit summaries are not the right place to have that discussion. I have locked the page for three days.
- FDekker (talk) 13:23, May 21, 2020 (UTC)

Followers doctor coat on Science article

Ooops! That was an embarrassing mistake - thanks for fixing it! :) --Karlshammar (talk) 17:34, May 24, 2020 (UTC)


Super simply - if someone asked me about leadership of the country as a whole: president if someone asked me about leadership of let's say, a canton (like a state), or a local level, i'd probably say the federal council on the switzerland page, i'd recommend "council headed by a president"

Pre-War countries

Arabia is a country, it was the name of Saudi Arabia before is was conquered by the Saudi people. Also, I don't believe that the mention of a Philippine island warrants it's inclusion as a pre-War country. Do you agree? (New California Ahoy (talk) 17:19, May 28, 2020 (UTC))

Those are only capitalized when used as directly part of the full title, lowercase in all other instances. Great Mara (talk) 21:16, May 28, 2020 (UTC)

Re: toshiro kago

I mainly meant to point out that the game doesn’t translate what he is saying, unlike the Chinese remnants and the people’s republic of China.

--Godzillafan4ever (talk) 08:39, May 29, 2020 (UTC)

Batch editing.

Can you please start batch editing? It's extremely irritating to be unable to undo edits, or actually find out who the top contributors are to articles when you're editing a page 6/7 times. --kittybright 13:31, May 29, 2020 (UTC)

His edits are ok. As a patroller, I have many edits to look over and Brane's edits are not really cumbersome. I would rather see a lot of good edits, like Brane's, no matter how many in a row. -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 16:01, May 29, 2020 (UTC))


I see several country pages created lately, suppose Vietnam can be included as well. See if you can merge North and South Vietnam content into one page, Vietnam. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 18:08, May 29, 2020 (UTC)

Then use the information you have available from the Vietnam War page, and leave the information that's uncertain, out. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 21:48, May 30, 2020 (UTC)

Enclave Department of the Army

Please don't edit war. Thank you. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 13:15, May 31, 2020 (UTC)

R.E. Comparisons

What rules? I cannot find a single thing denoting that its a no-no to compare on any of the relevant policy pages. Now, i very easily could be wrong, but comparison has never been an issue on characteristics to my knowledge, especially considering the comparison is borderline essential to understand the remark in the first place. See Strangler heart power armor, Ultracite power armor, Excavator power armor, Raider power armor (Fallout 76), T-51 power armor (Fallout 76), T-60 power armor (Fallout 76), and X-01 power armor (Fallout 76). Literally every single 76 power armor page but T-45 utilize these comparisons, and they are far more than mere notes. Again, if you can point me to the "rules", id love to be proven wrong, but the way it stands currently is just unnecessary content removal. --DankalorYT 21:34, June 3, 2020 (UTC)

  • I'll send him a message.--DankalorYT 22:01, June 3, 2020 (UTC)
    • Hello again. Just to clarify, there is no rule on comparison. Mara did not produce a rule. And, you may have noticed that the Father Winter helmet retained its content. So please, in the future, avoid removing the comparisons. The majority of the comparison removal today was an issue, and the only part that should have been removed were the "this is X% worse than", which is fine. You must understand that most visitors to a wiki's armor page are not looking for lore, they want gameplay information, and a simple "X is the best in class, except for Y" is some of the most important information we could have on the page. Also, for stuff like Father Winter, or the Ultracite revision today, its little more than noting visual comparisons. Removing the visual comparison totally nullifies the point as a whole, and again, is against no rules. I understand Mara told you one thing a long time ago, but there is nothing saying concise, factual comparisons do not belong in characteristics. Your specific example with Mara does not translate to "every single bit of comparison is wrong", so I politely request you to refrain from removing the content. Thank you.--DankalorYT 13:52, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
      • I'm sorry if its an awkward situation, but again, there are no rules saying otherwise. Mara may say comparisons are bad, sure, but they arent. As much as I respect Mara, and respect their seniority, that's a poor outlook to take. As long as the comparisons arent totally bloated, and are a few lines max of objective, factual information, they should stay. As i said earlier, comparison is probably the most important information we could have on any armor page. I have deliberated with a few other staff members (Leon, L84tea, etc.), and they all agree comparison is fine to an extent (The changes you made to T-60, for example, were the right call), but outright removal is never the right answer. In the future, please just err on the side of rewording/improving the segment, rather than outright removal. Thanks!--DankalorYT 22:32, June 7, 2020 (UTC)


Going by relevancy when showing images in a film, that is 100% not just some random woman and soldier. I believe during narration Nate talks about his parents who went to war, and at the same time, these people are on screen. So I'm just going to rule based on film rules and techniques that these are Nate's grandparents. You're right to assume so. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 13:32, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

You could just call them all ancestors of some kind if you think it's too unclear. I personally think they need another great in their names. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 13:43, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

Feral ghoul

Why do you keep undoing a correct edit to Bright Brotherhood? --L84tea Tea kettle.pngWould you like a cup of tea? 13:11, June 9, 2020 (UTC)

I should correct myself, "keep undoing" is not the correct way to phrase it. But why did you undo the linkfix? --L84tea Tea kettle.pngWould you like a cup of tea? 13:13, June 9, 2020 (UTC)


I didn't know that about him, but if I see him doing anything like that again I probably will. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 13:27, June 9, 2020 (UTC)

I've given him a final warning. Let's leave it at that for now. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 11:02, June 12, 2020 (UTC)


I'm not so sure the Argentina page is strong enough to stand on its own, much like other country pages that are just based on one location. If the country isn't mentioned by name, just a city or place within that country, the content is basically already covered on that location page, and the country is redundant, especially if it isn't explicitly named. AllYourFavorites! (talk) 01:00, June 10, 2020 (UTC)

In that case, I think both of those articles would be dubious, as well the one on the Philippines. New California Ahoy pointed it out earlier, and here, I would agree with him. The related policy talks about the article needing to stand on its own, which, if they're already covered by pages like Lisbon, Buenos Aires, or Mambajao, that wouldn't really be "on its own." AllYourFavorites! (talk) 01:52, June 11, 2020 (UTC)

Mojave Chapter

Agreed, my thinking was that if it was somewhere in the Infobox people would stop adding it as a separate entity, but it's probably better for consistency to leave them out. Aiden4017 (talk) 01:37, June 18, 2020 (UTC)

It's not on the uk page, The Ireland page is about things that originated in Ireland in the fallout universe. Such as last and first names, which in many cases are spelt the Irish way instead of the American anglicized way. In the case of fallout 4 it's undeniable that it was intentional to have so many Irish names by the devs. America is a diverse country there are more Irish names in the fallout universe than English I would say as Irish and German are the biggest ethnic blocks of the u.s.a. The problem with including English name references is that they can actually be lowland Scottish, French Irish or German sometimes anglicized from a completely different source also in alot of cases.

For example the surname Wright as in piper wright could be of English origin, but it could also be of Scottish origin anglicized from MacIntyre.

Waters of Life and Strategy

I've restored several parts of the article. I'm generally skeptical of "no strategy" claims, but your edits bordered on vandalism, as you removed several sections that provided clear and objective information, such as nearest locations for stimpaks players can use to heal Garza, information on accessing and looting soldiers in the catwalk room, and so on and so forth.

Zeal is good. Just make sure that you're removing actual subjective opinions (eg. Melee weapons are the best and everything else suxx), instead of objective information (eg. The next section features confined spaces and limited sight lines, putting ranged builds at a disadvantage). At all times, ask yourself "am I making the article less informative than it was before?"

Peace. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 12:09, June 20, 2020 (UTC)

Oh, it certainly evolved to the point where critical editing of articles is necessary and I support that. Don't write 500 words when 50 will suffice. Or 50 where 15 are enough. 5 might be a tad extreme ("Player go Necropolis find chip").
I actually did what you did earlier on The Vault: Streamline, edit, cut out needless fluff, make it sharp and to the point. Also, feel free to grab whatever you need from there. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 13:30, June 20, 2020 (UTC)

Family to Relations

While I thought about doing this before, it would require a bot to change all pages that are currently using "Family" in their infobox, or else we end up with a lot pages that just lost some info. A forum post would also probably be a better place to discuss this so everyone would know about the changes as well. If we can get someone with a bot to run mass edit and everyone gives their opinion, then I'm all for it being relations. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 14:47, June 20, 2020 (UTC)

Also, with the companions, it's very clearly established in-game that you form a closer relationship with the companions other than just a casual relationship. They even get angry at the SS cheating, so this is clearly a more serious relationship to them regardless of what how the SS treats it, so that's why I put "significant other" in the family to keep it gender-neutral and show how the companions view the relationship. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 15:24, June 20, 2020 (UTC)


Not much to do really unless he's inserting false info. If he's no responding that's his prerogative, the only thing to be done is to hope he sees your messages eventually so you can communicate. He just might be so new that he doesn't know how to check his messages. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 04:37, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

Undos - Survivor story: Dassa Ben-Ami

Please be careful with what you're undoing to make sure you're not actually undoing useful information. Just because something isn't written perfectly doesn't mean it's wrong. Thanks! --L84tea Tea kettle.pngWould you like a cup of tea? 11:05, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

It can be discouraging for anons/new editors to have their correct information so rapidly undone without a reason given. Especially when the added information is correct. I verified the claim in game, it was the existing information on the page which was wrong. If it looks suspect and you cannot verify it at the time (especially with gameplay info), you can always throw a verify tag on it. --L84tea Tea kettle.pngWould you like a cup of tea? 11:33, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

Defend (Minutemen)

If you have a problem with the terminology on this page, please discuss it on the talk page, not in your edit summaries. P0cketpc (talk) 01:58, June 24, 2020 (UTC)


I'm not sure. I've tracked down when it was added, 15 years ago by Angela [1]. Try asking Tagaziel, he might know, Otherwise, leave it as is I suppose, if there isn't more to go on. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:43, June 24, 2020 (UTC)

It's tied to the ending of the Brotherhood of Steel. If Rhombus dies, the Brotherhood transforms into the Steel Plague that devastates the NCR. If Rhombus lives, the Brotherhood instead becomes a major R&D house that is a positive influence.
This is stated outright in the Fallout endings: The Brotherhood of Steel, under new leadership after the death of Rhombus Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 11:07, June 25, 2020 (UTC)
The protection was set up by User:AllYourFavorites, so he'd be the right person to ask. I think it's a bit on the long side, but I'd rather not override other admins' decisions without a good reason. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 11:45, June 25, 2020 (UTC)

Patroller rights

You already were in my thoughts to give you patroller rights, I sort of waited for you to ask. Try to stay constructive in the arguments, but I trust you will, you've grown I believe. I'll grant the rights to you now. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 15:16, June 25, 2020 (UTC)

BoS page

I removed the protection from the page, the edit dispute it concerned is resolved anyhow. Thanks for asking me about it. AllYourFavorites! (talk) 17:34, June 25, 2020 (UTC)


I probably accidentally saved over your edit. Sorry. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 15:10, June 27, 2020 (UTC)


There's a difference between comparing for the sake of comparing and comparing for the sake of knowledge, in this instance, it's a very legitimate comparison made for the sake of knowledge, not really arbitrary comparisons. To know the ranks of the Eastern (Midwestern) BoS and the Lyons'BoS/Eastern Division have differences in ranking beyond the surface level comparisons is information people would want or at least be more informed of by learning it. To make an analogy, it is good to know that the Paladin Lord replaces normal Paladins, Sentinels replace Star Paladins, so on and so forth. As for edit summaries, they very much can be unhelpful if the information you are removing is crucial or can be considered vandalism or other kinds of infringements of wiki policy and readability. JCB2077 (talk) 16:42, June 28, 2020 (UTC)


We use both. This is a wiki that serves the entire world. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 17:14, July 1, 2020 (UTC)

The wiki serves nearly 30 million page views per month to people all over the world. Only three countries in the world officially use imperial; one is mixed; the rest use imperial. People shouldn't be forced to go to external websites to convert five freedoms and three hamburgers into metric units. Having both is the easiest way. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 19:21, July 1, 2020 (UTC)

Explorer's gear

Probably an oversight that got lost over time. Sure, you can create a page for it: Explorer's gear. Orion Moreno wears in FNV, cut item in Fallout 3. You can move the information from there to the new page. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:05, July 2, 2020 (UTC)

Yes, they're the same in FO3 and FNV, I checked with the GECK. Weight 3, Value 50, HP 100, DT 8. Can be repaired with merc outfits. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:26, July 2, 2020 (UTC)
Considered light gear. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:27, July 2, 2020 (UTC)
You can edit the page I just blanked. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 16:42, July 2, 2020 (UTC)
No, because it has the same name, just different stats. I updated the Merc outfit (Fallout: New Vegas) page for it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel.png 17:18, July 2, 2020 (UTC)
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