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First article

Hey ausir,i wanna know something,wht was the first article evr made on this wikia? BlackEdge 20:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

hello ausir, i have a question. can i pls be an admin?im an EXTREMELY active fallout wikia person and im always checking out the articles.Also, i fell fallout wiki should have usergroups. Everything would be MUCH more organized. There should be like Enclave of fallout wikia, BoS of fallout wikia. like whatever the usergroup is, should edit related pages. And there should be ranks. There should be a rank list that shows who is what rank, and a rank request list but you must edit 100 pages that are related to your usergroup. If you do decide to use the idea, id like to be leader of the enclave usergroup.please reply asap. thank you. Snaketail 9:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


Alieneater1239

Hey there. Could you take a look at my discussion page concerning this guy. I have blocked him for 1 year due to repeated harassment and vandalism. Porter noticed stuff as well. Maybe a sock puppeting.Thanks--Kingclyde 15:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Images

Are images such as File:Very girl with gun.jpg and File:090119last.jpg appropriate to be uploaded here? -- Porter21 (talk) 13:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I would think not. But too bad she wasn't in the game.:)--Kingclyde 16:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't really care either, just wanted to check whether there were some (wikia) policies in that regard. -- Porter21 (talk) 16:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I have to say though, I am getting a bit annoyed by the mass of user page images I have to categorize each day. Can we establish a "categorize your user page images or they'll be deleted" policy? Having to categorize all the other images is quite enough work considering there are probably all of 5 people here who categorize the images they upload (and that includes you and me already). -- Porter21 (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Outcast locations

Do we really need an ongoing list of outcast patrol locations in the article or can they be moved to discussion to clean up the page?--Kingclyde 16:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Discussion move would be easier to make it cleaner Werewolfhell 16:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar

I think having both the main bar entry for a game and the Portal entry in the submenu link to the Portal for that game is a bit sub-optimal. One of them should link to the main game article, shouldn't it? -- Porter21 (talk) 06:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I guess I should've clearer - my main point is that there should be a link to the main article for that game in the sidebar in my opinion. I don't really mind which page the main menu link goes to. -- Porter21 (talk) 10:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that's better. -- Porter21 (talk) 10:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Caravan Merchant

I was wondering if this should be made into a disambiguation page. I links all of the fallout 3 stuff as we only have a link to that. This page Caravan Merchant goes directly to Caravan Merchant (Fallout 3) but has non fallout 3 links to it. What do you think? I can't make disambig pages.--Kingclyde 18:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Anybody can make disambig pages, all you do is insert {{disambig}} at the top and then start listing the page with descriptions by using the usual list format :-) I'll go ahead and do that, I'll also have my bot change the links after I've moved the page back to Caravan Merchant (Capital Wasteland)... thinking about it, Grizzly's original disambig title was better. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox MKII

Discussion moved to Forum:Infobox design change. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

admin

excuse me ausir, can i be an admin please? (UTC)Snaketail 12:05, 14 June (UTC)

deletion

Alright, I recently merged a lot of Vault 101 pages, and Porter Mentioned Funiture. Now, taking a look acroos them, an awful lot of them seem incredibly useless. Unfortunatly, I discovered that you stopped deletion in the past. Therefore, I am wondering what makes them worth saving. The pages all seem to be interlinked to each other and there is no way of finding them without deliberatly searching for them. An example would be Balloon, which seems to be an in-depth discription of an actual balloon. What do you want doing with these pages, because several users have expressed their distaste for them. The deletion tags are in place, and it took us a long time to do that. Fat Man Spoon 17:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, Fat Man Spoon and Nitpicker were not aware of the previous discussions before they added the tags. They both weren't around when the original round of discussions was on and I only told them after they had made those edits (since I wasn't online sooner). -- Porter21 (talk) 19:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Fallout Tactics Traps

I probably should have ran this by you and Porter first, but I just added a bunch of traps that were missing from the wiki. I went ahead and put them under the Explosives category in the Fallout Tactics Weapons Navbox template, even though a majority of them aren't even "explosive" in nature. I just didn't know where else they should go. If you think this might be an issue, let me know. Mr. Sully 05:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Another category just simply called "Traps" sound okay? Mr. Sully 02:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Becoming an Admin

Hey! I was talking to Kingclyde about how to become an admin. He says that he just came to the site, did a lot of edits, and just talked to you. I'm very curious to see what it's like seeing as how I can't stand people insulting me on this site. Being an admin might get me a little more respect from them, plus I would like to help out with the edits. If I am to become a member of the Vault's admins, what would I have to do and how do I do it?--FawkesGamer360 18:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Becoming an admin does not mean people respect you or makes them respect you. If that is why you want to become an admin, then those are the wrong reasons. I didn't say I came here, did alot of edits and then just talked to Ausir. I actually care how this site looks and functions. I became an admin after having 1)wiki experience and 2) doing my fair share of fixing up and clean up. Admin isn't something that should be taken lightly.--Kingclyde 03:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I want to be an admin, I love fallout and I know a lot about the Fallout World and I wouldn't mind deleting vandalised bits off this wiki --LoneMerc101 10:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Enclave Dogmeat.

      When I tried to sneak invisible from an enclave camp,Dogmeat apeard out of nowhere (bushes) and my first thing that came in my mind was: "Enclave!Oh my God its Enclave Dogmeat".It scared the hell out of me.

Thanks! I'm a great fan of Fallout and I'm really trying to help others by refining some of the pages here. This is probablt the best site to get anything for Fallout. Random question: Do you know what the release date for Operation: Anchorage for PS3 is?

O:A for PS3

Ah well, thanks anyways. I'm REALLY looking forward to finally trying it out and see if that glitch works.


Editing Pages

I was wondering if everyone could edit article pages. I was wondering because I edited two articles (Porter's Cafe and Enclave Officer Uniform) and they were both deleted. Please respond. Thanks SuSpence95 02:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

What I mean is that what I edited was deleted, not the article itself. SuSpence95 02:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

D'Oh! I'm stupid about the Porter's Cafe thing. Anyway, on my game save (PS3) I have a set of Enclave Officer uniform that's 100% repair and another one that is less and the unequipped one was taking the damage (similar to Tesla Armor glitch) Well if it's just happening to me than oh well. Thanks for replying! SuSpence95 02:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Reverse Pickpocketing

Alright, thanks for the info. This should be noted in each usage of "reverse pickpocketing" in this sense, because it is very confusing otherwise. I'll make sure the edits I made reflect that.

The community should come up with a third term for this. Perhaps Swap-Pickpocket. Pickpocket means to steal an item. Reverse-Pickpocket means to give an item. (Like a grenade.) The third case is when you reverse-pickpocket a better item in order to pickpocket something they are wearing. I found another instance where an author simply calls this "reverse-pickpocket". This is not an accurate name for the two step process.

Maybe you can suggest a different name other than "Swap-Pickpocket". Or, if that's a good name, perhaps I will write up an article for it, and take the notes for it out of the reverse-pickpocket article.

It would be much more clear if we had a separate term for this.

I understand that the concept is explained in detail in the reverse-pickpocket article. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best term to use. A distinct term would help users who understand what normal reverse pickpocketing is, but have never encountered this special usage. It simply doesn't make sense to call it reverse pickpocketing, when it involves reverse pickpocketing and additional steps.
Reverse pickpocketing means giving a wig to a ghoul for fun, or power armor to a caravan vendor, or a live grenade to a Super Mutant. It does not imply giving more powerful armor to a character in order for him to take off his regular armor so that you can then pickpocket the regular armor. It's a multi-step operation that would be more accurately described with some new term. It's the same reason we even use the term reverse pickpocketing instead of just calling everything "pickpocketing". It helps disambiguate. --74.69.84.48 04:49, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature with Edit Count

Sorry, it's me again. My Signature with the edit count won't update. I've gone to my preferences and updating it and everything and it says my current edits and things, but when I post it, it won't update. It's permanently stuck and Edits:20. Could you tell me how to fix it? Thanks SuSpence95 04:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


Merges

Evergreen Mills Bazaar is a page I think should be merged with Evergreen Mills. But it has a redirect linked to it that comes from fallout and fallout 3 names Bazaar. What to do what to do?--Kingclyde 00:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You Tube Vids

I was thinking, most of the vids have an external link already in the article. I was thinking of removing the imbedded vid as long as it is the same vid as te link and renaming YouTube Videos to either External Links or Video Links. I prefer the External Links myself. I think it will help overall appearance and will help the pages load faster for some of our non-high speed internet users. What do you think?--Kingclyde 21:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

New editor

I think it should be disabled, at least until they have fixed it inserting tons of empty lines everywhere. It's getting a bit annoying. The category tool is also enabled by default again. -- Porter21 (talk) 06:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I've noticed that too. I remove as many empty lines as I can--Kingclyde 16:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I requested it to be disabled throuh Special:Contact. Maybe you should do the same. Ausir 17:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Smithy, Rip

Excellent. Now, the USS Ozymandias. We've got USS Olymandias. Ozymandias is written on it's hull, and is it's in-game title. Nitpicker of the Wastes 16:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


Lever Rifle

I have a guy that says it is called Lever-Action Rifle. He moved the page. I moved it back and left a redirect. If it is indeed called Lever Action Rifle, then I need to move it again, but I don't think it is. I haven't been home to play it yet though.--Kingclyde 22:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't have Point Lookout myself, but I have seen it referred to as both. Ausir 22:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Seeing as I have a localized version, I can't help either. The name in my version would translate to "Lever-Action Repeating Rifle". -- Porter21 (talk) 22:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
It is "Lever-Action". Next time think twice before you block someone for moving a page to the correct name. Ausir 22:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
? I haven't blocked anyone. -- Porter21 (talk) 22:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I was talking to Kingclyde, who blocked the guy who moved it. Ausir 22:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Do you accept my reasoning? I thought I was doing a good thing. I have since unblocked him.--Kingclyde 22:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Not really, given that vandals don't usually move pages to reasonably sounding names. There's bound to be lots of misspelt pages this soon after a DLC's release, and it's normal for users to fix that. Ausir 22:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll just leave it alone then. --Kingclyde 22:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Everyone makes mistakes. Just try to be more careful with blocking next time. Ausir 22:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

strange was their a weapon call lever action rifle in the weapon mod kit it look and has the same color of the point lookout lever rifle?? --XFury745 17:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Archive

How do I archive my talk page? I just deleted it all but I think they may be some useful stuff there.--Kingclyde 22:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Sweet thanks!--Kingclyde 22:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Feral Ghoul Reaver

Wondering whether Feral Ghoul Reavers should be added to new creatures in Point Lookout, seeing as they exist there as well (same skin, same attack etc). Technically they are not "new" though as they were added in Broken Steel but then not everybody has all DLCs. What do you think? -- Porter21 (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

If people don't have Broken Steel it should be in new creatures if it adds them, which needs to be confrimed by someone who has Pt. Lookout and not Broken Steel. By the way it seems to me that the Feral Ghoul Reavers are easier to defeat in Point Lookout than in Broken Steel --Fallout3Expert 23:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Disambig

I think we should create a disambiguation page for Creeper and Creeper (Fallout 3). I can't ever figure out hpw to make a new page. I think you told me before but I can't remember.--Kingclyde 00:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok cool. Now that I saw you do it, I think I can remember that. Thanks!--Kingclyde 00:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Fallout demo

Hmm, not sure - I think this might get a bit too granular because if we do it for FO1, we'll have to do it for other demos as well (let's say, stuff from the VB tech demo). -- Porter21 (talk) 17:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the example was poorly chosen. I still think it's getting too granular but I guess if all the DLCs have own icons, so can demos. Guess that means I'll have to make an icon? -- Porter21 (talk) 21:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Point Lookout Boardwalk

I have point lookout for 360 and i was wondering if its just my version or if anybody else noticed that if you walk by "The Jerk" diner that there is a person stuck inside the building

or is my version bugged?

Wanna help out?

I have noticed you make a lot of edits on regular basis.Soooo... I was wondering if you might want to make a contribution to this page User:Acdczombie/Fallout 3 Time Killers?Thank you for your time. Acdczombie 09:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

punga fruit

i am new to fallout wikia so need help learnin how to edit page properly i just added a note about doc hoff selling punga fruit but i dont no how to add the links --Greeny1911 19:13, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Madwolf4456

Hello Ausir, I'm the head bureaucrat at Gearspedia the Gears of War wikia, and User:Madwolf4456 who is a editor on your wikia made a questionable edit on our wikia. What is his history, like inserting vandalism or placing false information.--Jack Black 21:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

He seems to be a good editer here. (I'm only answering because Ausir is offline) May I ask of the nature of the edit? Fat Man Spoon 21:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

yh madwolf is a nice guy usually wat did he post that offended or annoyed u --Greeny1911 21:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The edit he'd made ruin a template on a character. this was his edit.--Jack Black 21:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Most likely it was a n00b mistake.--Jack Black 20:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Adminship

Okay... here goes... I would like to apply for adminship. I have been increasingly annoyed at vandals on this site, most recently on Kingclyde's talk page. All the admins were offline, so the best we could do was remove the stuff for 20 minutes. I can be on the wiki almost all day, so can see most incidents, and are usally the first to see Vandal Pages, but the best I can do at the moment is add a 'Delete' tag to it. I hope you don't regret your decision. Thank you for your time,

Fat Man Spoon 15:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I knew that would affect it. What does being a Rollback entail? Fat Man Spoon 18:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, so if someone vandalises a page muliple time in a row, I can undo them all in one go? Fat Man Spoon 18:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


Probably not gonna work.........but

Im probably outta my fuckin' mind, i'd like to apply for adminship, or something, im getting seriously fucking pissed at the amount of fucking vandals appearing, it likes that fucking asshole maccy came back for round 2....i probably sound desperate but i ain't, PLus we need a new admin who can gladly not be an asshole or fuck up a whole bunch of vault pages and get blocked for wasting someone's time, but, if i cant be an admmin or whatever, then that will be okay. Butter 11:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Button Gwinnett

Why was this page deleted? We have articles about other historical/pre-divergence figures if they're mentioned in Fallout games (Abraham Lincoln, for example). -- Porter21 (talk) 23:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, the reason I created the page in the first place was that articles linked to the robot article when clearly the historical person was meant - which is then a bit misleading. On second thought though, it's probably better to put a for-disambig to wikipedia on top of the robot page. And yeah, George Washington should go. Where was he referenced anyway? The article is only linked from the President disambig and as "see also" from Abraham Washington. -- Porter21 (talk) 00:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Just noticed that the reason for the Washington article is apparently that his existence is hinted at in FO3. Bit of a no-brainer, isn't it? The divergence was after WW2, everything before is the same (except for some dev mess-ups I guess), so it's certain he existed. -- Porter21 (talk) 00:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Off-topic forum

Yeah, good question. Not only the FO3 forum but also talk pages are recently swamped with unrelated chatter, not sure whether we want to encourage that. People should use the shoutbox widget if they want to chat on here to be honest. Maybe we should make the forum but at the same time be a bit more strict at least on the chatter on article talk pages. -- Porter21 (talk) 00:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Good, I was just looking into how to get my bot to archive them, saves me some work :P -- Porter21 (talk) 00:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I guess that if we have the forum it'd be better to add it to the sidebar as well, otherwise they'll just keep putting the off-topic stuff in the other forums. -- Porter21 (talk) 00:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, I think it helps with the ease of navigation if the category link at the bottom of the page leads back to the respective forum (where you can make new topics etc) instead of just throwing you to the category. I didn't notice that redirecting the categories also broke the "sort alphabetically" links; however, that can also be solved by replacing those links with [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|redirect=no}} <span title="Sort alphabetically">Sort alphabetically</span>] which will bypass the redirect. -- Porter21 (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to revert your reverts and change the sort link unless you have objections. -- Porter21 (talk) 14:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Blogs

Well, I'd rather have people working on articles here rather than turning the site into some sort of "MySpace light" to be honest. The ratio of unrelated crap to actual article content in RC is bad enough already recently. That said, I'm not totally against it, maybe we should ask others what they think (since I'm aware that it might just be my underlying hatred for the useless web 2.0 social networking crap at work here ;)). -- Porter21 (talk) 09:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, they enabled it for all wikis which did not specifically opt out (there's a page at central wikia where you can do so). On a sidenote, I guess it'd be better to adapt the new header for user pages and the comment posting section to the general site theme, they look somewhat out of place. -- Porter21 (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Using them for news is an interesting idea, a better way for newsposting is sorely needed (and it'd help with not having to post the same news multiple times like we have now for the main news and portals). However, there are a few things I don't like:
  1. Each comment appearing as a seperate item in "Recent changes" instead of being grouped like multiple edits to the same page.
  2. It's a bit space-wasting; now 3 news items need twice as much space on the front page as 10 news items did previously.
-- Porter21 (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I'll play around with it when I have a bit more time (in the evening) but it should be possible to override the default width/alignment/float for the box-style view, so theoretically we should be able to put it everywhere we want. Regarding moving the contents section, when I wanted to do that for the main page redesign people weren't too fond of it if I recall correctly. It's fine with me though. I'll dabble with it all tonight. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Adjusted user masthead and blog comments to our general color scheme (pending CSS update). Slight issue I noticed with the blogs, everything looks screwed up if you use the Monobook skin since blogs & user masthead weren't added for that skin. The "submit" button is missing from the comments page, i.e. you can't post any. You can create blogs but only if you find your way to the page manually (due to the masthead not being there). Basically excludes Monobook users from posting comments and partially from posting news. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I was just adding the problem there when I got an edit conflict because you had posted first ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 19:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, my comment was a bit premature - you can post comments as there's a plain link for submitting (but no button, which is why I missed it initially). However, the bloglist views still look screwed up due to the missing CSS. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
It's a bit of a strange approach though - I understand not wanting to "bloat" the Monobook skin, however leaving people unable to access certain extension and leaving things looking screwed up is not really a good approach in my opinion. I should be able to fix up the screwed up look when I get the time but there's nothing I can do about the missing link for posting blogs. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:47, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't think adding it to the sidebar will work, as far as I know there's no magic word for the username and I'm not sure whether the sidebar supports magic words anyway. Regarding the placement of the news section, as I said I'm certainly not against it, I already wanted to do it last time ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 20:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes you don't see the wood for all the trees... Don't need magic words, there is a special page for creating blogs after all. Do you know whether it is possible to edit the "toolbox" section of the Monobook skin somehow? Logically, that'd be where the link should go. Oh, and don't worry about the news view, I'm still experimenting with the different variants. I'll probably turn it back sooner rather than later, I was just trying to see whether I could get a TOC out of it somehow but that doesn't seem possible. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Guess if Monobook users want to add news, they can just use the links on the portal pages now. -- Porter21 (talk) 10:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Category tool

By the way, is it just me or is that category tool a total pain in the ass? Ever since it got reenabled I have deleted 3-5 "category accidents" a day, not counting the redlinked cats which show up in "wanted categories". It's supposed to help new editors but a large chunk of them seem to mistake it for a way to add another section to the article. -- Porter21 (talk) 09:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Howdy

I' just thought I'd take the time to say hi to you buddy.OutcastBOS 18:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Pictures.

Hi, I am a new user, and I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain permission to use a few of your pictures for another website, IMFDB. We have pages on the Fallout series weapons, which I am currently helping to build and screencaps help quite a bit. Of course I would mention where I got said pictures. Get back to me whenever you can, thanks! RedJedRevolver

Game icons

Try doing a cache refresh (CTRL-Shift-R if you're on Firefox). I made some changes to optimize page load times, it's working normally for me though. If the cache refresh doesn't help, let me know which browser you're on and I'll check. -- Porter21 (talk) 18:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Good :) -- Porter21 (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Any Word?

About PS3 DLC coming out today? The PSN store has yet to update and I can't get a straight answer from anyone. Spence 12:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... ok then. So nobody even knows if it could come out today? Spence 12:47, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Irwin's Farm

I didn't delete it because I thought it didn't exist but because the article did not even have as much content as what you wrote on my talk page. -- Porter21 (talk) 14:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


Videos

I removed a few videos that I thought were redundant or not really true to their title. The guy who posts them asked me for my opinion but reverted the edits anyways before he got an answer. Example, Perforator and Metal Blaster video. It is titled obtaining the rifle but in reality, it is 10 minutes of shooting the gun. In my opinion, that is really useless. The first 10 seconds would be fine because it shows how to get it. We don't need the added 9:50 seconds of filler and "party people" music.--Kingclyde 20:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: Triple Posting

Oh, I apologise. I'll bear that in mind. Fat Man Spoon 23:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Locking a Page

Is there a way to lock my user page so no one (even me) can edit it. I just went through hell trying to fix something and I think it's exactly how I want it. So can you or I lock it if you can?

Thank You! Spence 03:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

The Order Of The Dragon deletion

hey shouldn't this page (order of the dragon) be deleted since it has nothing to do with the actual game?havoc131

If there isn't, there needs to be a page for mods, unless the creator had been told to move his idea somewhere else, as it kinda seemed like a good idea. I was also in the process of editing it while it was deleted.--Master of cheeZ 06:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

There are a Fallout Modding and a Fan Fiction wiki here at wikia, both of which are more appropriate for that article than ours, which is about canon information from the Fallout games. -- Porter21 (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

K, i understand, that guy really shoulda asked around before posting that.

Vault-Tec Advanced Power Armor

Does Vault-Tec Advanced Power Armor even exist? Just wondering because someone removed the link from Template:Power armor and I can't find it in gamebanshee's DB either. -- Porter21 (talk) 06:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd agree about Master Mold being reliable. I was just a bit unsure because gamebanshee is usually reliable, too (they list other hidden stuff like the Meat Cannon, for example). But then, fringe games like this are bound to have incomplete information about them I guess. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Since we're at FOBOS stuff anyway - what about the Tesla Armor? The disambig states the Tesla Armor in FOBOS is the Vault-Tec Power Armor but according to Gamebanshee, it's a seperate armor. On the other hand, Template:FOBOS armors links to Tesla Metal Armor. What is it now? -- Porter21 (talk) 09:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Main page / news

I've moved the discussion to Forum:Mainpage MKII so it's easier to keep track. -- Porter21 (talk) 08:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Glitches

Are we putting glitches and exploits back in articles. I'm starting to look like the ass that gets all my edits reverted even though I'm following prior discussions--Kingclyde 00:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Portal news

I've switched all portals to the blog-style news now. Currently they're set up to pull news from Category:The Vault news and the respective game news category. The downside is that in the long run, the portal news for the older games will mostly be populated by general wiki news. If you remove the Vault news cat currently though, the news sections for most of them will be empty (since our old news weren't copied over) and people who use the portals as entry pages will miss out on wiki news. Not sure what to do, I'll leave it up to you :P -- Porter21 (talk) 10:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll make empty blogs with the correct dates and titles for this year's news (see User:Porter21/sandbox) and we can then fill them up with proper content. Should be faster than manually editing the xml file. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
What do you think about "retconning" (i.e. using the import technique to date them back) a few news posts about the older games to fill up their portal news sections? Every portal except for the mainpage and the FO3 one is set to display 3 news items. News posts about the Fallout Trilogy release and sales could fill up the new sections for FO1, FO2 and FOT. I'm a bit at a loss for possible VB and FOBOS posts though unless you want to go way back and add news posts about VB cancellation and design document leaks. Although I believe that there were some interviews about both VB and FOBOS not too far back, maybe we could use those. -- Porter21 (talk) 14:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
By the way, I think we can save ourselves the effort of categorizing each news item in both the game-specific and the generic news category by modifying the main page news like this, i.e. setting it to pull from all the specific news categories. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Simply make an "Other news" category then? :) -- Porter21 (talk) 07:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Done that and removed old news from general News category. On a sidenote, do we need Blog:News? It's basically the same as The Vault:News. I'd just redirect it but apparently pages in the blog namespace cannot be edited directly (my bot can't work on any blogs either btw :( ).
Reverted it all back, would be nice if they mentioned such limitations on the respective help page (just like the limit of 25 for user blog listings is not mentioned - see your user blog page, it cuts off after 5 pages of 5 items although there should be 28)... -- Porter21 (talk) 09:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Midsouth Brotherhood

The Elders wasn't agree with the decision of Rhombus, I imagine that it's consion decision but not considered more by the original Brotherhood of Steel, like Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel. Changing icons is a way to make their own decision. The Texas Brotherhood of Steel is a good names and better. Sorry for the quality of the icons, images for Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel are quite rare, I find it better if I replace it. Itachou 13:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

UserBoxes

Hey Ausir is there a list of Userboxes?--The Gorrila 16:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Page move

Thanks, will remember that till next time. Wejer2 01:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

How ironic that I got it right the first time then. Oh well, I will just move the page. Wejer2 01:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Haha, I see you did the work for me after all. Anyway, it has been nice getting to know you. I am looking forward to our next meeting. Wejer2 01:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Named creatures/robots

I saw you changed the categories for Four Score and Ruzka. How exactly are named creatures supposed to be categorized - in just a character category and a race category (like Four Score) or in a character and a creature category (like Ruzka)? Named robots are usually categorized as both characters and robots but I guess the same question applies to them. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Another categorization question: What's the general policy, most specific category only? Aiming primarily at organizations, religions, FO3 unmarked/DLC quests and FO3 unmarked locations - all pages in those categories are usually categorized in both their own and its parent category. -- Porter21 (talk) 08:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Thinking about it, I think the most consistent way to do it is to apply the same category scheme for human characters to all characters/creatures with names, i.e. game-specific character cat, "race" cat, location cat. After all, humans are also just a subtype of creatures really. So, for Four Score we'd have "Point Lookout non-player characters"/"Dogs"/"Temple of the Union characters" or for John Henry Eden "Fallout 3 non-player characters"/"ZAX units"/"Raven Rock characters". Seems to make the most sense to me.
Regarding categories, "if the category is not too cluttered" really only applies to religions and maybe organizations from my list of examples. Both FO3 quests and FO3 locations are fairly large as is. In general, I think "most specific only" would be better - to make finding stuff in the subcategories easier we could always make an overview page with the help of the categorytree extension, for example: <categorytree hideroot=on namespaces="-">Fallout organizations</categorytree> show all pages in the Fallout organizations category on another page (the italics can be removed with some CSS editing). -- Porter21 (talk) 09:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Need some input regarding naming of the categories. I've made all robot race categories "<type> robots", although the convention of the "creature races" was simply "<type>" in plural. It does look a bit strange with things like "Sentry Bot robots" but I thought "Mister Handies" looked just as weird. Not sure which is better. Also need a better name for Category:Sentient computers as it doesn't really fit all computers in there (like the Shi Emperor, doesn't sound like it's sentient) but I also did not want to make an extra category for each type of computer (since the only type to appear multiple times are ZAX units, the others are usually one of a kind). Any suggestions? -- Porter21 (talk) 17:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I've moved the robots cats to "units" and renamed the computer cat to "computer units" as well. Kind of "lame" but there's no better name I could think of. -- Porter21 (talk) 09:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

FOBOS date

There isn't confirmed date for Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel but I think it took effect in 2208 as marked in the Timeline, give that being the date from which the Vault Dweller from Arroyo to the town of Carbon. Itachou 10:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


QUestion

I recently started a project on ym wikia dedicated to the deletion of all porn,good idea or a total fucked up one (BTW,the project is called Operation:Mindfuck) Mr.Wolf 19:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Wolf

I managed to kick him off the FO:11TY wikia,do you think this was a good idea,or a fucking stupid one. Mr.75 15:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

"Did you know" section

MikaelGrizzly suggested we add a "Did you know?" section to the frontpage. I think it shouldn't be a problem to it either directly above or below the "Helping out" section, just wanted to hear your opinion. We're planning to have it randomly pull one of a couple of lists, and I think the individual lists shouldn't have more than 5 or 6 items each.

However, we need a starting pool of items for the first few lists (we can always add more later). I've started one with a couple of things that came to my mind at User:Porter21/didyouknow but it'd be nice if you could contribute a few as well :) -- Porter21 (talk) 09:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Advanced Power Armor Mk II

It would use a different name to differentiate more easily. If we speak, we don't know if we are talking about one of Fallout 2 and Fallout 3. It may be "Western" and "Eastern" or "2241" and "2277" before their name, or use the two. You can see what is best for you dear friends =) but I really think that a different name is more appropriate. Light-Revan 11:23, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

How many?

How many edits would you need to make to be come an admin? --LoneMerc101 12:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Just saying thanks for answering my questions. --LoneMerc101 12:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

BOS perks

Yes, they are marking skills in inventory, but it looks much has perks. I think it is a mistake from the developers, they probably are using the therm "skill" to be better understood and not confuse people. For example Sadist or Energy Charge does nothing has skills Fallout style typical of Medicine, Science or Repair. Itachou 21:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, as you want. I have the impression that you are angry, I just to be useful. Itachou 21:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Rate dear friends =), sorry for these small problem Itachou 21:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Advanced Power Armor

Anyway do what you want, whenever I edit, there is edit by a type just after, it's afflicting. All that I say is true and if you get into the developers stupidity, that is heartbreaking. If he truly believes really create the same armor, it's really a bunch of incompetent and looser, same a modders were able to get the original : http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4641 How can you consion that kind of thing, it's anything. In any case, I them fuck deeply for this mistake shit and I never give up! I will prove to everyone that this is not the same. Their shit is nothing compared to the original of Fallout 2. Average english ? sorry I'm French !!! Light-Revan16:12, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, But my real problem is to give them a nickname to differentiate from one another to distinguish them, to know what you're talking about if we discuss it. Strange that you don't like "Western" and "Eastern", you have put identical style for Midwestern Brotherhood Advanced Power Armor. Otherwise add "2241 version" or "2277 version" in their name or something ("Classic" or "Old" and "New" for another exemple), just a name created by the fan to differentiate, please. Light-Revan 21:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Ho! Ausir, thank you very much, sorry to all those taking heads. I really wanted her to my heart. Now that of Fallout 2 is known as "APA MKII 2241 Version" and that of Fallout 3 is known as "APA MKII 2277 Version. I will also change the Alien Blaster, being given that the 2 are different, it don't have the same design and does not use the same ammunition. Thank you again for your humanises. Light-Revan 22:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

References

How do you add references at the end of an article? --LoneMerc101 16:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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