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What about the only hard data about its range?--dotz 05:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

What's the source on that being their maximum range? Sounds pretty unlikely. Ausir 11:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

175 miles (oil rig - Frisco - Navarro) is its minimal confirmed range according to Navarro .msg files (Navarro computer or tech chats). In range are V13, New Reno, Redding and probably Gecko and Klamath also (probably after refilling in Navarro)--dotz 15:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

The Oil Rig is 175 miles off of the coast of California, not 175 miles from Navarro. The distance from Oil Rig to Navarro must be longer, since it's much further North, and we don't know the exact distance. Ausir 16:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

There was exact oil rig placement given (longitude/latitude). Just our map magician should be consulted.--dotz 05:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but I think the placement given was wrong, as it turned out to be on land, not in the sea. Ausir 14:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Vertibirds flew between Navarro and oil rig via Frisco. BTW according to TV preview in is not possible to shoot at vertibird or shot down it with Fatman or Todd wasn't able to imagine it was possible.--dotz 18:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Nope, you can't shoot vertibirds down in Fallout 3. Ausir 18:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I've shot down a fair few, i rarely do it because i think its a waste of ammo. But if you hammer out like 8 shots from A3-21's plasma rifle they'll blow up.--Greig91 21:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it was early, incorrect info. Ausir 22:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

An image on Wikipedia kinda caught my eye[1] and I'm wondering if there wouldn't be a way to either confirm or deny it being based off of a tiltrotor[2] aircraft like the V-22 Osprey. Digital Ronin 05:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I had a vertibird do whats just about a bombing run on me :| dropped what explosion looks like mini nukes, 3 of them. All hopelessly inaccurate. 203.91.84.7 13:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

loyalists - who they were?--dotz 22:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

several Vertibirds were destroyed by Liberty Prime

but exactly how many?--dotz 11:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

• A lot.

• YES!

Vertibird strikes

I don't think they target the player, but others in the area, such as Super Mutants and Talon Company. The only times I've seen them attack the ground directly, with guns or nukes, was when there was a such a base nearby, otherwise they only drop troops at semi-regular intervals.

It should also be tested whether vertibirds return to a location after being destroyed. I've noticed the one that lands at The Capitol doesn't respawn, but it may have only been intended to appear once and park there. --97.81.77.13 16:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

The one that lands in front of the Alexandria Arms/Arlington Library location always spawns again. --Penumbra 01:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

The alexandria vertibird doesn't respawn for me. One that has for me is just by bigtown near the broken truck where the muties sometimes spawn.( Just shot that one down..what a mess ...--1000hrs fallout 20:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)) ____________________________________________________________________________________________The Anacostia Metro crossing one I engaged appeared as I spawned at Seward Square facing East,level 20, having previously cleared the square of Muties. It came from the rear of the Capital building and dropped 3 mini nukes which exploded in front of me. I walked 60 paces SE ,passing under the over pass and it re-appeared but did nothing. I continued SE passing Broadway Cinema not showing Sister Act II but " One wife hold the meatballs" , past the blue and yellow lorry on the rhs, heading towards Cornucopia Fresh Groceries, , just before reaching the yellow car on the RHS of the road the Vertibird appears from behind, lands just in front of the yellow car , opposite anacostia metro crossing and offloads a Enclave Soldier in Tesla armour and a Bot. You can explode the bird killing the bot as well as the soldier from 15 paces away. (I have not yet managed to board a Vertibird and leave the map ! )--1000hrs fallout 20:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I was once going to the Temple of the Union from south when I heard one approaching from the southwest. I crouched and it simply flew over me; I suspected it would land or something so I quickly legged it out of there. However, it disappeared behing a small hill and I didn't see it take off so I suspect it didn't land, simply flew over. Problem is, what the hell was it doing in the middle of nowhere flying in a SW-NE direction when Raven Rock is to the extreme northwest???--Amitakartok 14:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

VTOL

VTOL acronym should be explained (its origin at least, if nobody knows its meaning).--dotz 22:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

See: wikipedia:VTOL. Ausir 23:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC) thx--dotz 00:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

(Vertical TakeOff and Landing.)--ASL93ratjar 22:40, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The first recorded VTOL was made by Nikola TESLA in the 20`s and the first fully functioning VTOL by the British in the early 50`s --195.93.21.71 08:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Picture

I've removed the picture of the Capitol Building Vertibird because of the posing figure. I don't think it's right to show off your own character (explained by the rather obvious Gatling Laser) in an article dedicated to the Vertibird itself. If you want to show off, do it on your userpage. --Echo11 19:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Vertibird Weapons

Via the console, the Vertibird Bomb Gun and the Vertibird Gun can be obtained (3E5E2 and 89C51 respectively); however, upon equipping and using both of them, I found that the Vertibird Bomb Gun is exactly identical to the Fat Man save in name, and that the Vertibird Gun, taking the form of a improperly carried Gatling Laser, (shows rifle carrying position, with Gatling Laser slightly beneath the arms) is worthless (despite showing considerable damage in the Pip-Boy, when equipped it constantly fires and does no damage). I was wondering though, if this information should be added to the article, if not only as Trivia?

--117649AnnihilativeRepentance 04:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Interior Screenshot

Is it possible to obtain an in-game screenshot of the interior of the Broken Steel Vertibird? An interior shot would be really good for the page. Mobius 22 21:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Not a helicopter

Vertibird is not a helicopter - it is tiltrotor aircraft like the very real V-22 Osprey which can operate both as helicopter and airplane. Although never actually shown in-game as far as I know, by looking at the rotor configuration of Vertibird it is obvious that they can be "tilted" to work as propellers; the rotors "arms" being connected to roundels of sort. --VonVince 10:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not a tiltrotor craft, it's a Tiltwing craft, if you look at the parked craft at the capitol building you can clearly see the wings fixed to the engine and on a rotating axis on the craft. Aryeonos^What!?] 22:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

As well I should mention that the hull/fuselage of the craft is far more similar to a MiL Mi-24 Aryeonos^What!? 05:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Heard an Explosion

I heard what I thought was a Vertibird followed by an explosion. I ran up an saw a mutant with a missile launcher, so I thought maybe the Mutant had shot down the bird (not sure if this is possible). Now I'm thinking it might be the Firelance, and a Mutant with a missile launcher just happened to be nearby. Anyone know if mutants will attack Vertibirds so i can confirm this? 173.73.75.156 17:58, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Not realy a confirmation but I'm thinking a mutant would attack a vertibird, as would anything else not allied with them, to check if it was firelance or not seach the area hard for APC's if none are found it was definitly not firelance. - RASIC 18:01, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

That happened to me as well. At first I didn't see the supermutant, but I did see the missile bring the Vertibird down. However, a supermutant armed with a missile launcher then proceeded to attack me, so I am certain that it took the Vertibird down. R0gueHunt3R

Same here. Saw two vertibirds flying by and the second was brought down by a missile. When I went to investigate, I found several super mutants in the area.

That IS a scripted event, assuming your where I think you are. Vertibirds do not register as enemies to anyone but Liberty Prime and you, so it is not a random game occurance. This Super Mutant spawns there even if you clear the area already, and the Mutant-Vertibird scene will trigger on you way through a canyon just north west of the tower. See: "Broadcast Tower KT8" for more info. -18:24, March 22, 2011, Guest Editer

Fuel

So what did Vertibirds run on? I mean, I guess they could use any oil from the Oil Rig on the West Coast, but oil was in limited supply. Once they got to the East Coast, I wouldn't even know where they would get their fuel from. So do Vertibirds run on petroleum, or do they use Microfusion Cells like the Highwayman, or something else? MaulYoda 04:26, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Fusion cells (not micro fusion cells, full sized ones) propably. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 08:34, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I guess that would explain their increased range, thanks. MaulYoda 23:03, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Destruction

"The Tesla Cannon can easily take out a Vertibird in one shot." is not always true. I found that in one game, even with 100 in all skills, my Tesla Cannon was taking at least 5 shots to destroy the Vertibirds at Adams. 71.203.125.108 22:46, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

This is quite correct. Wandering around after the end of Broken Steel, with 100 in all combat skills, I ran into Vertibirds several times, and it always took five shots from the Tesla cannon to explode one. They would usually begin to burn after the third shot, and I think (though am not exactly sure) that one may have flown off and then crashed in the distance after being hit by four shots.

By the way, does anyone else think that it's odd that you get no XP whatsoever for downing one of these? Wunengzi 22:48, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

i always wondered the vertibird resembles the falcon in halo reach look at them there green its hard to explain it tho -Dae2000

Different in Vegas.

Is it just me, or is the vertibird in new Vegas different from the other fallouts? I mean, this one looks like it's got a different nose, and is larger.--Blahmarrow 00:35, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Capitalizing the name?

In keeping with Vault policy, should the name Vertibird be capitalized? I believe the rules are: caps for unique creatures, weapons, etc. and lowercase for everything else. One does not write, "He picked me up in a Helicopter he had rented".

Any thoughts? — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 01:47, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Helicopter is a common noun, whereas Vertibird is a name of a specific line of tilt-rotor VTOL aircraft, a proper noun. Therefore, it is capitalized. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 14:35, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Two models, or a re-design of the first model?

Ever since Fallout 3 released, I've always wondered why the Vertibirds weren't the 'flying beasts' from Fallout 2, nor similar in no other design but being an instrument of never before seen air superiority to the original model. Is this simply a re-design of the original model from Fallout 2 on the developers part, and, well, kind of nerfing it from a clearly more armored variant? Or, did the Enclave design both of these models?

The originals could have been the original prototypes, and the gunship variants could have maybe been the finished prototype. Speculation, and again this seems like another case of the Enclave downgrading instead of upgrading (the Advanced Power Armor Mark II seems like a downgrade from the original Advanced Power Armor for example) because the variant of Fallout 2 was less versatile perhaps, but I'd wager it would take a far better beating than the gunship models, those things are downed ridiculously easy for such advanced technology and the inside is disproportionate to it's exterior.-- 02:25, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Console commands

Is there a console command that spawns a vertiberd?

Windows

Why do they have no windows? How is it even flown?   OfficialLolGuy  Talk  Blog  20:22, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Disadvantages?

The article mentions as a "disadvantage" that losing one rotor/engine would likely cause the Vertibird to crash. What are we comparing this to that it's a disadvantage?

While hovering, any other aircraft I know of that would have remotely the same cargo capacity (and are capable of hovering) would also crash with the loss of one engine.

While flying, the problem isn't the "bad" two-rotor design, but the probably-terrible glide ratio. A good glide ratio would allow the pilot to drastically reduce power to the working engine, use trim controls to keep the Vertibird flying straight, and glide for a relatively safe crash landing. A bad glide ratio means the loss of power turns it into a rock.

The weird torque caused by the huge props way out on the wing tips means you'd get less effective forward thrust because you'd have to turn the power down to keep from spinning laterally, but that doesn't mean it will inherently be out of control. Also, you could potentially keep the forward thrust fairly high and just let the Vertibird spin in a large, helical pattern until you hit the ground. This would potentially keep enough lift that you wouldn't hit terribly hard.

Unless there's some in-universe source though, I'm not sure we can make any of the above assumptions. It *looks* like it would have a bad glide ratio, but that doesn't mean it's supposed to. It *looks* like the tail isn't strong enough to counter the weird torque of the rotors at full power, but that doesn't mean they couldn't. The gunship Vertibird pictured doesn't look like it could possibly generate enough lift on those stubby little wings to hold up that heavy-looking body, but presumably it's supposed to.

The in-game artwork tends to follow the Rule of Cool rather than being an engineer's version of things. A real-life version could have substantially different proportions that work just fine. 162.252.201.32 11:49, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Contradiction

There seems to be a contradiction with the vertibird in the Fallout universe. In Data recovered in the universe vertibirds were still in the prototype stage in 2077, which the Enclave most likely would have hidden in their bases across the U.S before the great war. But the appearance of operational vertibirds, and crashed the vertibirds after, in the pre-war sequence of Fallout 4 severely contradict the data in previous games as these vertibirds are operational and there appears to at least a squadron's worth of them all over the commonwealth.Nick3258 (talk) 13:53, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

Fallout 4 Model

It seems the FO4 model is very different from previous models, the first obvious one is the sliding doors on the side and the larger transparent cockpit.

Another difference is the lack of the weaponry seem on enclave vertibirds in FO3, the ones in FO4 only seem to have the door mounted minigun (which I might point out is only mounted on one side) and what seem to be two small machine guns on the front of the vertibird which are not seen used. This is odd as the ones in FO3 have miniguns, gatling lasers, missiles and mini nukes but aren't seem in FO4 despite mentions of gunship variants of the vertibird being used.

The last difference is the fact that the wings fold up when not in use, which I don't think has been seem on any other variants in the universe, and how they are stored on the Prydwen with use of a grab arm.

Also despite the fact there are only 4 spots on the Prydwens flight deck there seems to be more than 4 as I've seen 4 get shot down and still see some flying around. Nick3258 (talk) 03:57, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

FWIW, I have seen the front-mounted guns being used, on an initial attack run on a sentry bot. Chaos5023 (talk) 09:00, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

VB-01

Hi, I stumbled across fallout gamepedia, and their article mentions that the vertibird in fallout 4, is in fact not the same version as in past games, the Brotherhood uses an older version of VB-02, which is VB-01. I do not know where they got the information, but I think it is worth considering the change, since fallout gamepedia also has some of the members from this wiki. James Jr (talk) 22:14, January 7, 2016 (UTC)