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Rewrite Edit

Way too much unsupported speculation in this article. It needs a comlete rewrite. Come on people. This is The Vault! We're better than writing articles based 100% on speculation.

Absolutely, take this page down until there is solid evidence to support any of this.

And who exactly said it was in Old World Blues? Nashorn1127 04:18, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

  • Well, if Ulysses is in it, so's the costume. Well, technically...
  • We don't know if Ulysses will appear in the flesh in OWB. All we know is that he has some kind of appearance, which could be something as simple as a couple hologram recordings or videos of him. Even if he does physically appear, chances are you can't touch him (like kill him or pickpocket him) because he will be the focus of Lonesome Road.

needs confirming. Edit

i think that ulysses is schizophrenic or something. because from what i've gathered he has been working for the legion the ncr and the Mojave couriers.

Schizophrenic? Do you mean you think he has Multiple Personality Disorder? --233345-cartman1 tinyUser Avatar talk 03:45, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose Schizophrenia would give him seemingly random goals, such as helping the NCR to further his own batshit insane agenda, then doing the same for the Legion. --Captain tweed 04:26, June 30, 2011 (UTC)


Who says Ulysses is schizophrenic. the courier can play everyone for their own agendas. I mean he derailed a train to show his captors not to screw with him. Basically he's like the the courier. and maybe they'll level scale Ulysses to your couriers level.

01:49, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Elijah was the one who derailed the trains. And it was a distraction so that he could escape, not a dick measuring contest. Ulysses didn't even get captured in the Big MT. He just wandered in, asked some questions, and then left again.--62.30.162.142 20:13, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Does anyone think... Edit

That it would look more badass if it had sleeves?

  • No.
    • But!.. Yeah no.
  • I think it would, I'm probably just gunna display it or give it to Raul. RED Sniper 1917 14:16, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Purpose of Different Flags? Edit

Perhaps the purpose of the different flags Ulysses's costume is that it is which ever the courier is opposed to? Such as if the courier is with the NCR, he will have the legion flag? This could be decided through dialogue. 71.36.18.33 06:54, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

  • Doubtful, because that would mean the NCR playthrough is canon, more or less. I don't think they would decide which ending is canon over a costume. And I don't think I've ever saw him with a Legion flag, where did you see that? I've only saw him with the Pre-War U.S. flag.. --BattlecattleFontBeware4sig 07:06, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • No, such as over the radio he asks you who are for, the NCR, Legion, House or Yes Man. This decides what costume he is wearing
    • First how the hell would Ulysses know who yes man is, second how does he know that the PC would fight in the battle at the dam and finally why would Ulysses knit you a nice little outfit if he is going to try to shove his flag pole up you ass at the divide?
      • it's very simple, just think of pokemon logic. you choose a fire, rival chooses water. it's the same deal, ulysses is supposed to be against you, but in FNV you can choose which faction you support - so if you're NCR, he'll be legion. ( i think this because in my recent NCR playtrough, joshua graham talked about ulysses as if he worked for the legion.)

he was originally a cut companion, the variant outfits likely were for a companion quest such as boone's(and probably won't appear in the dlc now). maybe convincing him to side with one of the major powers in the hope that they are strong enough to rebuild like old world?~~

Page name Edit

I his name is Ulysses, then isn't it gramatically wrong to add an apostrophe + S to the end of his name instead of just an apostrophe?

Or shouldn't it be Ulysses' Costume instead of Ulysses's Costume?

Here's an example for why the name should have been changed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jenkins'_Ear. If you'll note, even though the persons name was Jenkins, it is not the war of Jenkins's ear. FinalWish 22:38, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, English is not my first language so I had my doubts on wheter it should or not be changed. Thanks K1LL 23:59, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Grammatical error Edit

It should be ulysses' costume

That's already been pointed out. Somebody will sort this out soon. --Captain tweed 21:03, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


Shouldnt it be Ulysses' Outfit, costume sounds like he is going trick or treating.

The Uniform choice Edit

I think Ulysses used to be a legion spy, but after a while he saw what was around and what the legion did to such places and thought there must be a better way. So Ulysses will always be for a free vegas or there about, the costume will change depending on the players choices in the divide, such as mabye letting them free will be Old world flag, And letting them join or be forced to join one of the other two factions and that will put that corrisponding symbol on your version of his costume, mabye with unique stats or such.


The symbol on the back of the duster, depends on what major reputation faction they are affiliated with. After the ending sequence, you are placed outside of the divide, back in the Mojave wasteland, in front of a foot locker. In it contains a message, among the things that Ulysses says, is has to do with what symbol you follow, you should also wear on your back.. which tells me, that it depends on what faction that the wearer is affiliated with.--Dark Technician 09:46, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

My theory, or wishful thinking in regards to Ulysses' Armor. Edit

From the concept art it appears you may have 3 choices of pattern for the back of the coat once you are able to obtain this armor (Possibly given to you upon completion like Joshua Graham's Armor). Old World Flag, NCR, or Caesar's Legion. I am thinking that the back of the armor may change depending on which faction you support in the final quest, with a default of Old World Flag until you choose. I mean, Ulysses did in fact paint the old world flag on places he visited in the Big MT, and hidden caches as well. But it could also be sort of a variant of the stealth suit in a sense, think about it. You can wear faction armor to be incognito amongst that particular faction, right? What if this armor gives you the ability to change your faction at will as if you put on that faction's armor? (IE-the graphics on the duster change with each faction you are currently 'hiding' amongst) Just a bit of speculation... Although it is reaching, as well as far-fetched, it would still be a pretty cool idea for the armor. GlassJAw667 23:56, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed something in the trailer. Edit

The outfit that looked like Ulysses' outfit that the Courier wore. One has 13 stars, the other only has 11. Maybe we get our own version of the outfit as we play through Lonesome Road?

I've noticed something too. Are couriers arms really red like the arms of a bloodman in that screenshot? Or is it just me?

Vault 21? Edit

Anyone know about the 21 version seen in the ending? I'm curious about if its a unique version available to the Courier or just for show in the ending.--Alpha Lycos 07:29, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

That one is one known as "Courier's Duster". It is one you get after the ending. --Dark Technician 09:42, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Depending on your faction connection, the duster changes: NCR, Legion, House or Yes-Man. The 21 version is the House ending. Though, I've noticed that the ending slide doesn't seem to show which one of the duster you will get afterwards, as I have seen the 21 slide, but got the NCR duster.--Mr.Lexx(talk) 10:04, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reason for the mask Edit

The reason for the mask is that they didn't bother to animate his face at all. The truth is his whole head is a mask model. Why they would go to the trouble of making a unique face, not animate it and then cover it up with a massive mask, we'll never know. They could just as easily used a vanilla head and covered it with the mask...

No. The reason for the mask, is that he wears a mask. It's part of the character. Him wearing said mask is the reason why Obsidian didn't bother to animate his face. They obviously wanted him to look completely unique, which meant creating a new face and hair. They went about it the best way they possibly could have. By creating the entire face and then covering the bottom half of it up with the mask they ensured that it looked 100% natural. Like it actually is a mask, and not just a part of his character model. Animating the face at that stage would be pointless. It would just create more work, since they would have to deal with the clipping as his face changed shape. And even after doing that, it wouldn't look any better than the current non animated version since the mouth is covered anyway.

They didn't just get to the end of making the DLC and say "Fuck it let's just put a mask on him so that we don't need to create any facial animations".--62.30.162.142 17:19, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

does not equip=Edit

Ulysses' mask doesn't equip, it's unresponsive when I click on it Fallout: Shades of Grey, coming 2012 00:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

2 Copies Edit

There's a pretty complicated section in the article about how to get 2 copies of the Duster and Mask. I got 2 copies on my first playthrough by killing Ulysses in the final confrontation, looting his body, then throwing the switch for the missile. When I left, the footlocker had an extra copy of each. Is this repeatable, because it's a hell of a lot easier than what's listed. Super Duper Mutant 05:19, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

What about reverse pick pocketing power armor onto him when he's still alive after the DLC and then stealing the armor from him? SkyHiRider 17:16, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

You can't pickpocket him after the DLC when he's overlooking Hopeville. Trying to do it just initates conversation.--Jolipinator 22:26, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

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