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Arrêt translation. Edit

Arrêt translates as both stop and judgement, my bet is that they mean it to translate as judgement. Secronz 21:52, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Really, there was me thinking that judgement translated into judgement. User avatar tagUser Avatar talk 22:10, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I removed the "incorrect usage" part. See: [1]. Ausir(talk) @fandom 01:28, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Fair, but I then corrected the entry saying it was French, because good luck for finding that stop sign in France Xporc 11:11, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

"Arrêté" (note extra é) means "rule" or "decision". Arrêt means stop/halt. (Stop also means stop. Stop signs in France say STOP). HughesJohn 16:29, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

But, as User:Secronz correctly says "Arrêt" can also mean "court judgement". (The difference between "Arrêt" and "Arrêté" is that the former is a ruling by a court while the latter is a ruling by an administrative body. Talk about nit-picking). Teach me to flap my mouth off. HughesJohn 16:37, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say that it's more likely to mean stop because it was used in Canada, which some speak french, and was used at a checkpoint. --Cc99910 21:34, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

A lot of people call their guns the judge as well, but here that may not be the case.--Kingclyde 21:37, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

It means Stop basically, It was carved on the gun because it was used at a U.S Army border checkpoint in French Canada.

Grunt? Edit

Any idea if the 25% damage bonus for Service rifles from the Grunt perk affects this rifle? --Bigasspileofdinosaurs 20:56, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

yes--Ohno itsthecopz 04:31, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

How the blazes are the iron sights misaligned? Edit

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The front blade sights seem to be bent a bit to the left. --Anonymous


No idea. The barrel isn't bent, that much is for sure, as it shoots straight. I'm betting it got bopped on something and the front sight rotated on the barrel. It's only cosmetic anyways. I'm the best at space!

JESawyer stated that the sights are misaligned because of its heavy use by the Survivalist.--Ohno itsthecopz 04:57, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

That goes right along with my assumption, then. I figured the sight got bopped on something along the way, knocking it out of alignment. I'm the best at space!

Open Nifskope, export body as an .obj, bump sight back in line, save, re-import. Cngratulations, you've just done what any sensible person would do with a wrench. Should probably be a weapon mod TBH, 'curiously handy wrench'.

Alright, here goes another theory, Crandall was suffering from Presbyopia and cannot see close targets, so he compesates this by turning the front sights and using a patch to cover one eye. How that sounds? :) Brfritos 22:56, June 25, 2011 (UTC)


Anyone consider that this was a modification done by the Survivalist as to get a better sight picture? It stands to reason, with it being extremely accurate at the very tip of the sight post. I personally like it better than the Service Rifle sights. Easier to aim, and to get a bead on your target at longer ranges.--Exeter17 15:33, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think he's probably so intimately familiar with his weapon that he no longer notices the misalignment or he's learned to compensate for it. The dude's lived on his own for decades with nothing but his rifle. It could also be a sort of security measure to insure that if anyone else gets a hold of his gun they won't be able to aim with it. He knows to aim slightly up and to the left but someone else might not figure it out quickly. Zac hemker 19:32, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

He most likely does not aim to the left. The right post is directly aligned with the center of the gun. Ignore the left post and just aim with the right post.

To the above - thanks for the aiming advice, but the out of alignment sight being because "he does not aim to the left"? --222.154.232.126 07:48, November 21, 2018 (UTC)

AutoMatic?Edit

is the survialist's rifle automatic or semi auto?

semi-auto. sig plz --J.J.-Lopez 06:53, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Weird. I didn't get it...It wasn't in the Duffel bag. Do I need to find all 6 Duffel Bag befor I can get it?

It's a bug for the gun. Look at the "Bugs" portion at the bottom of the page. --JJakaRebel 18:35, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Picture/Gallery Edit

Is there a different inscription/carving on the left side of the rifle that isn't shown in the main image on the page? Great Mara 03:30, May 23, 2011 (UTC) yes it says "stop".--Ohno itsthecopz 15:28, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

To the person who edited the page to say 'Quebec' Edit

This is a picture from Ottawa: http://images.ookaboo.com/photo/s/Bilingualstopsign_s.jpg

I've also seen those outside of Quebec, thus that is why I removed the name and kept the word "bilingual". Makes sense to me.--Kingclyde 21:45, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also, it says "Arrêt", not "Un Arrêt", so just like in English, regardless of whether or not it is in verb form, it is the word by itself. FinalWish 02:12, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

What I really love is how the idiot says it's unique to Quebec but proceeds to list minor areas in the middle of his little PC bullshit. This guy's edits are all bunk. Great Mara 02:28, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
After the most recent rewrite of the section "Behind the Scenes" it was left with an extremely poor grammar sentence fragment. I fixed it to be suitable. I mentioned Quebec without implying that French is only spoken there. There ARE areas of Canada where French is not common, I recommend leaving the statement the way I phrased it. --Kris User Hola 22:12, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Leave Quebec out, it's purely sepculative anyway. Let's keep it to "bilingual areas", and if people immediately think "Quebec" that's their impression. Let's just not put that image in their heads, as there is no way of supporting it. Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 22:24, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

USMC not Army Edit

the article incorrectly states that the survivalist is ex-U.S. Army, when it should say he was a former Marine. his armor says USMC on the collar and on his own article it states he was USMC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.104.25 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

It's unclear whether or not the Marine Corps existed in the Fallout universe. --Kris User Hola 00:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
WHAT. Kris, did you play New Vegas? Look on the cover of the Future Weapons Today - "Marine sniper in Nanjing". Plus, as the anon stated, the collar of the Desert Ranger combat armor EXPLICITLY refers to Vickers as a Marine from the USMC. It's PERFECTLY CLEAR. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 05:36, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to say that it's not clear they existed separate from the Army. Which wouldn't be too different from reality, actually, considering they're not exactly separate from the Navy as it is (though don't try to convince a Marine of that). That they existed is definitely clear. --Kris User Hola 22:04, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
The Marines were never at any point in history part of the Army. So you're statement about whether or not they existed separately in the Fallout world makes no sense. And you can tell a Marine that they are closely tied to the Navy, considering Marine corpsmen and other non-combat personnel come from Navy staff, and many of their terms are Navy terms. just don't suggest any sort of inferiority. FinalWish 22:08, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Comparison bar clipping Edit

The comparison bar clips into the weapon info area. Just thought i'd put it out there for a more experienced editor to fix. From the Area saying what can be used to repair the rifle, down. 98.242.154.239 03:14, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Background check Edit

The Background section is a bit verbose, yet not very descriptive, leaving current version here: (Troper of the Wastelands 05:36, August 15, 2011 (UTC))

This weapon was originally a U.S. checkpoint guard carbine in Canada, issued from the Long Branch Arsenal in Ontario, USA territory. Chambered in the 12.7mm round, this rifle was supposed to offer guards firepower necessary to intercept anyone attempting to breach a checkpoint, regardless of equipment. (Troper of the Wastelands 05:37, August 15, 2011 (UTC))

The background doesn't have to be descriptive; it's better to have a short background and a detailed characteristics than vice versa. --Kastera (talk) 06:35, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

.50 Beowulf AR-15Edit

Now that we know the Survivalist's rifle is a .50 Beowulf AR-15, does that mean we can say the Service rifle is an AR-15? --Kastera (talk) 15:43, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

We could say... but should we really post in on the weapon's page? I don't think It's necessary, but good to know. --Felix BrehhUser Avatar talk 19:59, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, because AR-15 is actually made by Armalite / Colt. You can say it's an AR-type weapon, of which there are dozens, like Knight Arms, Colt, S&W, H&K, Saber Defense, and many many more. BTW, the round type is called ".50 caliber Beowulf", which is NOT the same as the .50 cal round fired by the Ma-Deuce (M-2) or the Barrett .50 cal anti-material rifle. Kschang 08:02, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Found Rifle AFTER Conquering White Legs Edit

The article was actually incorrect in stating that the rifle cannot be found if not retrieved before resolving the Zion situation (either evacuate or conquer). I played Conquer through the end, respawned at the exit point and got all the stuff in the trunk, turned back and decided to explore every last location the Zion map, including all the survivalist caches, and indeed found the rifle at where it's supposed to be: right next to the skeleton and the duffle bag on top of Red Gates. So it CAN be retrieved after the big finale, whichever one you pick. Kschang 08:07, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

The article says that the rifle may not be found if an NPC has taken it and subsequently disappeared once the main quest is done, not that it'd disappear after the main quest in all cases. --Mr. Compound (talk) 02:03, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... Edit

This weapon and the service rifle are more-or-less identical in structure, obviously differing in some external features. So why would they be based on different real-world objects? Sawyer says that the service rifle is more-or-less (the answer was less than clear) based on a cross between the AR-15 and AR-10, while the Survivalist's rifle was "loosely based on the .50 Beowulf AR-15 platform conversion." Are these two similar enough to be essentially the same thing? In that case, we should use the more specific and certain statement on the articles. --Skire (talk) 00:37, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

There is no .50 Beowulf AR-10 conversion. There is a .50 Beowulf AR-15 conversion. Therefore, AR-10 is irrelevant to the Survivalist's Rifle beyond the fact that they're all in the AR family. --MadCat221 (talk) 08:56, January 15, 2014 (UTC)


Not discontinued? Edit

The R Series of combat assault rifles was used reliably following the discontinuation of the M Series in the early 21st century. The M series means any form of AR rifle right, like the M16, and M4, but This particular rifle once belonged to Randall Clark, an ex-U.S. Army serviceman who sought refuge in Zion National Park after the Great War. No way Randall Clark was in service before the early 21st century, so does that some how mean the M series rifle wasn't discontinued, at-least for any military branch excluding the National Guard? --75.80.235.57

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