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Assumption, Clutter and Filler Fluff[]

Under notes, the line: 'Mr. Smith states that a man came around who had a kid in Rivet City, this could possibly be James Hargrave's Father.' Ted Strayer has a dead father too. Rivet city, for that matter is considered a major settlement, and not all residents my be depicted in game. The statement is open ended and could be referring to any number of people named or unnamed in the game. The line is now on both Hargrave and Strayer's pages, Why? Aside from them having dead or absent fathers mentioned in game, neither is specifically or directly implied to have lost his father in Andale. Given the nature of life in the Capital Wasteland, absentee fathers may be a fairly typical upbringing.Xclockwatcher 04:04, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Another thing to consider is the possibility that the person's child may have already moved to someplace other than Rivet City by the time the LW gets to Andale. JerichoRCDF 19:24, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

no karma loss?[]

After i finished this,I killed old man harris,but i did not lose karma. Is this a bug?

Well he is part of the cannabilistic inbred family, because the two couples are his sons and daughters. But he gave up his ways some years ago, but he still partook in the murders of wastelanders, and the consumption of their dead bodies, so i'm surprised you don't get good karma for killing him. And it is'nt a bug.

Raiders and Enclave[]

There isn't an enclave camp anywhere near this location, I am curious if the person who wrote that didn't instead mean Outcasts as their patrols are fairly common on the road at the southend of town. However they are not hostile to the cannibals, and there are no raiders nearby either unless baited from the concrete treehouse, overlook drive-in and nuka-cola plant. Mictlantecuhtli 19:05, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

There is a random encounter point nearby, near the Nuka-Cola plant. I've seen raiders at that point before, while just outside Andale. --Kris User Hola 19:14, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, and that random encounter is at the bottom of a cliff. They'd have to be coaxed around, and up the slopes of the cliff to come close to Andale. Mictlantecuhtli 20:09, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

And music. Whenever I walk by, there's this little theme music going "Da Ba Da Ba Bop Da Ba" Creepy... The Unknown User 20:13, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Inspiration[]

This cannibalistic family may be based on the Bloody Benders or the legendary Sawney Beane clan.--ElB 21:16, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Or, you know, any cannibal story at all, really. You'd need some really good corresponding details to show a reference to any one thing in particular.--Gothemasticator 21:38, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Arefu?[]

From the bottom of the article: "If you fight the parents of Andale, then "The Family" and all of Arefu will permanently turn hostile."

Is this a mistake? Or does Andale have something in common to Arefu? Please edit the main page if you know for sure. --Lastarael (talk) 00:32, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm by no means an expert - but I see nothing in common with any of these groups. Different factions, and nothing in the quest script seems to change that. But yet- it's verified. Digital Utopia (talk) 16:27, August 1, 2014 (UTC)


The Family are cannibal reformers who have turned to vampirism. Arefu is the hometown of a cannibal adopted by The Family though they don't know it. After you broker an alliance between the two it would make sense that both become hostile for slaughtering cannibals but they don't. Both factions stay friendly after killing the parents in Andale. There could still be an arrangement of choices you make with the Arefu and The Family quest which would lead to spontaneous hostility for the death of Andale's parents.

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