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This really needs a page? Really?!--OfficerBlue 21:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I REALLY doubt it. Fat Man Spoon 21:10, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't see what a dungeons and dragonish game has to do with a post nuclear apocalyptic world.--OfficerBlue 21:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
It's only because it loosely follows the SPECIAL system and uses perks. Pfft. Fat Man Spoon 21:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah this is a fallout wiki not a interplay wiki, needs to be removed.--OfficerBlue 21:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Please, go ahead. Fat Man Spoon 21:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I need no mod wrath... they may have a thing for worthless pages... but this is really useless.--OfficerBlue 21:32, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Meh. Fat Man Spoon 21:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there actually any good reasoning behind keeping this? Some perks may be shared between the two games but they're entirely different franchises; this isn't the SPECIAL Wikia, I really don't see the relevance... At most on the pages for shared perks there could be a note mentioning that it also appeared in Lionheart, as well as a note on the SPECIAL page with perhaps some brief commentary on anything unique to it, but it's a pretty tenuous connection.--BADavid 18:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
It's not a SPECIAL wiki per se, but it does cover all iterations of the SPECIAL character system as well as the Fallout setting. Ausir(talk) 00:34, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
This is not a SPECIAL wiki at all. Fallout happens to use the SPECIAL system. Shall we include pages for every game with Assault Rifles in it as well? Because that's about the same level of connection here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

We do cover iterations of the SPECIAL system, see VA:Content policy. Your example does not have the same level of connection; the SPECIAL system was created specifically for Fallout, Assault Rifles were not. I'm not a huge fan of having the LH and TORN info floating around, but on the other hand it being here doesn't bother me either. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:27, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

This is hilarious. You even have lil' game logos appearing in other pages of these games? Are you serious? This page has to be deleted as soon as possible. The policy has to be changed. It should be Fallout-ralated content only.--TheBearPaw 09:50, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Vault wiki can also be SPECIAL wiki. I don't see what the problem is. Nitty Tok. 03:44, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
It wouldn't make much sense to include info on the Lionheart setting, locations, characters, etc. But including info on its implementation of SPECIAL is interesting in terms of evolution of this ruleset. Ausir(talk) 09:35, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't it make more sense to have that evolution listed in SPECIAL's own page and metion it briefly? Or have an article: "The History of the SPECIAL system".? Right now you have entire stand-alone articles about Lionhearts perks. I mean, I press "Random page" expecting to get something Fallout ralated and get some shitty Lionheart perk? What the hell is it for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBearPaw (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
Just because it does not interest you doesn't mean it doesn't interest anyone. Not every page on the whole wiki has to be to your liking. If you don't like it, simply don't read it. Ausir(talk) 10:04, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
That might very well be true, but I don't believe having Lionheart or TORN or whatever articles is a very popular idea among others as well. --TheBearPaw 10:54, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
They might be of interest to others, like modders. For example, the TORN perk Looking for Trouble is a really good idea (although not for a perk in the old Fallout sense of getting perks). I'd love to see modder A put a feature like that into F1 or F2, mostly because I'm sick of cruising around Reno and the Den looking for the rave party encounter to see if it's real. Nitty Tok. 03:38, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hey can we delete this garbage now? Edit

It's not like Ausir's here to play favorites with it anymore.

No, the page must stay. It has some gameplay stats that are similar to Fallout (like SPECIAL). And sign your posts. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 20:38, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
Hey that was me earlier. So what if it has the SPECIAL system? This isn't a wiki about SPECIAL. The actual content of the articles is as un-fallout related as is even POSSIBLE.Kara MacNamara 01:18, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
Eh, it does no harm. I don't see any issue with letting a few pages hang around. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 01:19, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
I don't even see why anyone has a hard-on to delete these pages anyway. I wouldn't even know they were here if people would stop drawing attention to them for no reason. UserGreatMaraMessage 02:47, February 25, 2012 (UTC)