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"East coast" Enclve had access to incredible technology and broadcast patriotic marching band music.--dotz 05:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Richardson was Enclave President also!--dotz 12:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, hence the (Fallout 3) disambiguation. The page title will be changed to his full name anyway, as soon as it's revealed. Ausir 13:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Rescuing ZAX mainframe from dying oil rig. Stange idea. What is exact difference in Fallout world between AI and highly advanced AI? (re: last edit)--dotz 21:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
It was never on the oil rig, it was always at Raven Rock, built before the war. Probably communicated with the oil rig through PoseidoNet. As for highly advanced AI - I guess one that can successfully imitate a human. Ausir 21:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I think AI person is able to imitate a human anyway (I recommend Perfect Imperfection by Dukaj).--dotz 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
it was always at Raven Rock, built before the war. Probably communicated with the oil rig through PoseidoNet. - Raven Rock was not mentioned as possible website when Chosen One searched PoseidoNet in Gecko.--dotz 19:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Just because it wasn't available from Gecko doesn't mean it wasn't connected to the PoseidoNet. The power plant might simply not have enough clearance to know about it. Ausir 21:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Naming Importance Edit

The story of John Henry was about how man is superior to machine, and that the new fancy steam-shovels are no match for a great man with will and determination and all that stuff. The choice of John Henry for the AI mainfame is therefore ironic, as it is a machine triumphing over man (at least, attempting to succeed where men had failed) named after a man whose myth was triumphing over machine. So, like with Fawkes, it has a somewhat deeper meaning--but still really obvious.


Fawkes - Dumbledore's phoenix?dotz 11:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Huh? Fawkes - Guy Fawkes and V for Vendetta. Ausir 11:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

was just wondering... who is the master mentioned? is that meant to be there or is it some idiot naming himself?

The Master was the end-game boss of Fallout 1. Highly recommend anyone to play F1+F2 to get a real 'feel' of the game, preferrably before Fallout 3 - although we all know most people are unlikely to do that :(... - Johnbob

spoiler Edit

yeah guys, this needs a spoiler warning, i dont know if its on one of the parent pages, but i clicked the name out of curiousity and found out the enclave president is a cpu so...................... -68.102.228.59 22:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, this is an encyclopedia after all.... Ash Nuke AshRandom (Talk)


Yeh its wiki, by its very nature it IS a spoiler. Its kinda the whole purpose of this site. To give every bit of information on the game.--Greig91 19:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

HeroesEdit

Is it just me, or is it absolutely fantastic that he plays the character in Heroes? I was watching downloaded episodes with my wife and I KNEW ... Eden! Fallout 3 made Heroes 100% more awesome. Jdw 02:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I know what you mean. I was watching Haloween and I had the same reaction..VelvetKevorkian. 10:04, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

TriviaEdit

Should there be any mention that John Henry Eden shares part of it's name with the AI that may turn into SkyNet in the Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles TV series?68.55.125.227 02:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

See the above section called "Naming Importance". They're both named after John Henry, a character from a folk story. So no, I wouldn't say so, unless somebody's willing to compile a list of every other fictional character based off it. --Solbur 03:09, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I know, I keep adding this fact but Garoux keeps deleting it and trying to ban me. Folks at Terminator Wiki seems to think it's relevant, check out what they wrote: "In the Bethesda video game Fallout 3, there is an AI called John Henry Eden, the President of what remains of the United States. He became self-aware and based his personality on all the previous Presidents in recent history from the time before the year 2242. John Henry Eden's benevolence and desire to save humanity draws many parallels with John Henry in Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles."

Both are AI in a post apocalypse universe (or soon to come), thus it should be added. Moreover, note that the John Nery AI does not become SKYNET, it is build to fight it

Administrator Pony here.
Garoux is right to ban you, since you've been repeatedly breaking the site's policies on speculation and circumventing bans. This "trivia" is not to be entered to the article since it's speculating, and we have rather strict policies concerning that. I'm not sure how the Terminator wiki does things - neither do I give a fuck - we're not them, and the two wikis have different guidelines. Please follow this site's guidelines in the future. Hugs MadeMan2 "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Morgan Freeman Edit

Does he not sound like Morgan Freeman? I added that to trivia, shortly before someone deleted it. Does no one back me on this?--ASL93ratjar 23:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

No, Andrew, no. Fat Man Spoon 23:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
It certainly never occurred to me. Jdw 03:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Well then the impersonation of Freeman on Family Guy has gotten me going. "Like a twinkie...like a twinkie..." haha!--ASL93ratjar 22:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I thought he sounded like Kramer from Seinfeld. HuangLee 02:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

F***ing Windows 98 Edit

I tried to talk to him, but then the windows blue screen came up on him and I couldn't escape. I waited a full hour (in real life) until it wore off and then I could talk to him! FawkesGamer360 18:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

You should make a video of that184.145.58.30 22:57, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

**Spoilers** Still Alive? Edit

When you wake up 2 weeks after activating the purifier, the Brotherhood claims that all of Raven Rock has been destroyed and the Enclave is now very unorganized. After you complete Broken Steel and return to the Capital Wasteland, President Eden's broadcast can be heard yet again. He is looping the broadcast as if you just started the quest Take It Back! Going back over to Raven Rock, the entrance is completely caved in. Think he is still "alive"? Maybe he is and is just malfunctioning. According to President Eden he is made of thousands of computers and that would be pretty hard to completely destroy even for Liberty Prime. ~~ReconMarine~~

This happened for me before broken steel.after i finished the american dream i got the same looped broadcast.....and i didnt bomb raven rock....CPU malfunction maybe? Werewolfhell 16:08, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

---I think I read somewhere that its just a glitch with the radio that came with the DLC.

This happened to me too but it was static during Broken Steel and then a wh

It is said that the enclave eyebots and the enclave radio are prerecorded messages from long long ago and that are constantly looping. Sentinel Lyons said that "I thought it was a very old recorded message but I'd never thought they would actually appear" Wertoret 16:36, 05 of October 2010 (GMT+1)

Similare to the "Old Man in the Cave" Edit

The story with President Eden seems to be extremely similar to an episode of the Twilight Zone. In the episode "Old Man in the Cave" a similar situation arises; where, in the aftermath of a nuclear apocalypse, a town is kept alive by the leadership of a super computer referred to as the Old Man in the Cave. Everyone in the town, except the one man who "talks" to the Old Man, believes that the Old Man is some kind of prophet. Eventually a group of soldiers convince the towns people to revolt against the Old Man. When they break into the cave and discover the Old Man is actually a computer they destroy it. And, ultimately the people die without the computer's help.

Clinton WAS NEVER CONSIDERED Edit

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/05/23/bethesda-we-didn039t-seek-bill-clinton-fallout-3--99.157.204.88 10:20, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Dead link.--Gothemasticator 08:05, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Calculator Edit

No evidence so just putting this here, but does it feel to anyone else like this is Bethesda's Version of the Calculator The Supercomputer that wants to kill everything and remake the world, seems to be a reoccuring theme in this series--S0mbo 12:18, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hoping for him to turn out to be human in the future Edit

I hope we get a semi "Wizard of Oz" kind of nod eventually. The REAL Eden is somewhere else...The White House, duh, or maybe some super secret vault that had been meant for the true leaders of the world when the bombs fell. Masterdirector 12:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

A small dialogue mistake Edit

In one line Eden says "FEV virus", which means "Forced Evolutionary Virus virus". Is it worth mentioning? - J.P.|Talk 23:06, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Tautology happens. For example Americans call cash points ATM machines... Fallout: Shades of Grey, coming 2012 22:43, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Terminator / Sarah Connor Chronicles Edit

It is extremely unlikely JHE is directly named for the AI appearing in Sarah Connor Chronicles. According to the Terminator wiki, that character first appeared on 20 October 2008; With Fallout 3 being released in NA on 28 October 2008, Bethesda would need to rewrite, rerecord, republish and distribte Fallout 3 in less than a week. Needless to say the costs and logistical problems in this make this pretty much impossible.

I wouldnt however rule out a common root in the man John Henry. Agent c (talk) 16:25, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Daffodils - You are the only one for me Edit

Daffodils in the pot in front of the ZAX. Meaning of daffodils, plural. English. "You are the only one for me" --1000HrsFallout3 (talk) 06:53, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Presidential StatusEdit

I don't really agree with the recent edit, but before I go ahead and start a revert war I thought I'd bring it to attention. Although the game guide supposedly states Eden is the President of the United States, I would argue otherwise. It depends - do we at the wiki consider the Enclave to be the United States Government? I personally don't but I'd like to hear other opinions before I go ahead and change stuff that might not need be changed. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 10:12, January 9, 2014 (UTC)

Edens dog story Edit

When he talks about dog he had as a child, is that a sort of easter egg to Nixons speech about a dog named Checkers? Made me think of that and sincd Eden os based of several different presidents...not sur eif its an easter egg or if its mentioned on his pageBlitzbear93 (talk) 04:10, September 8, 2015 (UTC)Blitzbear93

Mentioned in Fallout 76 Edit

It seems John Henry Eden is mentioned in a terminal in the enclave bunker command room in fallout 76. it seems the bunker AI MODUS had been in contact with the Raven rock ZAX computer that would become John Henry and a part of a pre war transcript between the two computers is visible with Eden being refered to as ZAX. This can be seen in this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lock2Wfski4 2:06:52 this is my first time writing on a wiki so I thought it best to put it here so more experienced hands could see and act on it, rather than me mucking up the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.33.135 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

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