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Intelligence[]
If Frank had such low intelligence, then why was he a secret service agent sent out on missions and not mopping floors?
Simple. The man's a tank. He makes Power Armor look like a vault suit. You don't have a man with a Pulitzer prize write children's books. You use him at what he's best at. In this case, fucking people up.
Sounds good to me.
Article has no information about amount of Horrigans hit points (999?) and his weapons features (End Boss Plasma Gun, End Boss Melee Weapon). Per said, that the PC can grab those things killing somebody on the hex, where Horrigans body lies.
Supermutant Definition and a lot of Doubts .
- Horrigan is not exactly a supermutant, understood as unradiated human, massivly exposed on FEV.
- According to sgt. Granite, he is some genetically engineered freak, more than half machine. So it is misunderstanding to create Fallout 2 mods with Horrigan's armor used by the human PC.
- Fallout Bible timeline information about Horrigan's FEV contamination can be uncanonical and unlogical, because: (1) Enclave forces left excavated Mariposa Military Base r e c e n t l y - according to entering text for level 1 (2241 or 2242 year), Enclave Patrolman bodies are stil fresh and after second entrance into the base dead bodies change to a blood strains; (2) Advanced Power Armor should prevent biocontaminations, its external featers are very similar to Enviromental Armor/Suit, there were in Mariposa other Enclave grunts equipped with Advanced Power Armors.
- possible explanation: Horrigan was affected by minor FEV contamination (eg. because of armor damage, like this occured in the Glow).
There are other non easy to classify mutant characters in Fallout like Harold and Talius. They were exposed on FEV, but they are looking like ghouls. Even Master wasn't a "pure" supermutant (he was crossed with TV set). dotz
- Maybe Horrigan took his helmet off in Mariposa? Anyway, I think it's pretty clear that he's a supermutant cyborg. He mutated into a super mutant and was then turned into a cyborg by Enclave scientists. Ausir 03:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- He will serve SHODAN well :o
Im making a mod for him so that he can appear in fallout 3,although im going to make him extremly hard and give him some extr apowerful weapons that make the experimental MIRV and the mysterious strangers 44.magnum look like chinese pistols,and if you can kill him,you get 4000-10000 XP and his modified power armor and weapons
- Good luck. MaseFace 04:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Deadliest?[]
Wouldn't Liberty Prime make a pancake out of Horrigan if given the chance? Why does it say that he might be the deadliest entity to walk the Wasteland?
Doubt it. Frankie here could punch liberty prime to last millenium. He's that Badass. Not even Chuck Norris f*cks with him.
Heres an example
- Horrigan appears from the adams air force base and confronts liberty prime*
Liberty:Eliminate general cheng!
- Bombs horrigan with 50 mini nukes*
Horrigan:*Yawns*
- Horrigan rips liberty primes leg off and beats him too death then chuck nortis appears*
Chuck norris:WTMFH?
- Commits suicide*
Get the idea? Werewolfhell 12:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
If chuck Norris is defeated, reality will implode. Fat Man Spoon 13:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Er, if The Chosen One killed him, doesn't that mean The Chosen One is actually the deadliest entity to have walked the wasteland?92.234.175.62 19:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a Fluke.
Doesn't the fact he tricked the chosen one into thinking he was dead prove hes actually super clever and going to take over the fallout world
- How dare you say that something from the old, cheesy, retarded Fallout games could kill someone from Fallout 3? Liberty Prime IS the deadliest thing alive. I put on god mode so I wouldn't have to reload, and shot at him with the Experimental MIRV for a full hour. Nothing. When I played Fallout 2, Frank was so easy to beat. Besides, how can frank defeat Liberty Prime? He's a 2 Dimensional loser; just a bunch of pixels put together. Liberty Prime is a giant 3 Dimensional kill bot. Here's how it would go.
Liberty Prime: Eliminate all Chinese communism! Horrigan: Hello. I am a boss battle of a cheesy video game. Like all other enemies, I HAVE to engage in dialogue before attacking you. Even though I am going to kill you, I still continue to give information. Liberty Prime: ALERT! CHEESY VIDEO GAME CHARACTER ON AMERICAN SOIL! *shoots him with laser* Horrigan: *dies in a pile of pixels* Liberty Prime: Resuming communist patrol THAT'S how it would really happen, and you know it!--FawkesGamer360 02:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
That could be for game play reasons. However, I do agree that prime will beat Frankie because he is a large hunk of metel about 40 feet tall and frank is only 12 feet tall. Also, Prime can kill absolutely anything with one quick hit, even behemoth. (AtheistMetal)
jesus christ,your a fallout 3 fanboy. [[check out my daily things and then vote on what you wanna see the next day 17:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)]]
Frank is the deadliest entity to walk the wasteland. If the Chosen One wouldn't stick 1million Stimpacks in his arm Frank would've won, he even owned all of those useless Turrets. Liberty Prime doesn't count here because 1. hes not alive, 2. hes a weird plotdevice and 3. they simply don't exist in the same time. 217.85.222.238 18:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
apparently you didnt play fallout 3. liberty prime was not built in fallout 3. it was a piece of pre-war tech, that was simply semi-fixed in fallout 3. they in fact DID exist in the same exact timeline. and if active, liberty prime would have simply crushed horrigan under his foot, as when a 200 ton anyth8ing gets set on top of a double sized man, inside a hollow suit of metal, it crushes. very easily i might add.74.77.217.91 14:34, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Lets rememebr one little story,even after turning the turrets on frank and getting granites squad i witnessed them being PWNED by his knife and then ran out of stimpacks and ammo trying to kill him with a mega power fist.Liberty prime is cheap because 1.He doesnt admit defeat nor say anything good 2.His weapons are overpowered 3.He was made by bethesda,they made oblivion,it had a huge cheap motherfucker at the end and they ripped Him off 4.He so fucking cheap he steals frank horrigans death animation.
So in truth,if liberty prime met frank horrigan,he'd kill himself,even though hes a robo-virgin check out my daily things and then vote on what you wanna see the next day 18:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
wow just think if horrigan became a behemoth
Cant frank be 1 shotted with a gauss rifle? yea check it bitches http://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Critical_Hit no major fallout 3 enemy has such a flaw, also in fallout 3 shotgunstyle wep+chinese stealth armor+better criticals+crouching+being 3 feet from the target=slaughter 69.140.35.147 06:09, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
guys...fawkes is the deadliest entity in the wasteland. Rukathesoldier (talk) 19:20, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
Just imagine[]
Frank Horrigan VS Liberty Prime... Heh!
- Er, allow me to point out the following, if I may:
Frank Horrigan's health:999
Liberty Laser damage: 1000
I believe the term I'm groping for here is "boo yah."
P.S. - The guy above who said Fallout 2 was "cheesy" can go DIAF. When you're old enough to drive (and shave!), you can comment on "old" video games that us old geezers loved and cherished! LOL12.204.48.130 10:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Frank horrigan has a high resistance to lasers,i used a laser rifle on him on my first fight with him and it didnt do anything
- Now, that's a good point, but it brings up another good point... Frank may have awesome resistance to "laser damage," but there's no such thing as "laser damage" or "laser resistance" in Fallout 3. That means the Liberty Laser isn't coded to do "laser damage"... it just does "damage." So I'm not sure Franky-boy's laser resistance or "threshold" stats would help him. Likewise, the Liberty Laser would be mitigated by Fallout 3's "damage resistance," but poor Frank, being a Fallout 2 character, doesn't have any overall DR, because it's strictly a Fallout 3 stat. Hmmm.... of course, this brings up another salient point, which is that this discussion is utterly absurd. ;) 12.204.48.130 06:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes but should frank horrigan be fallout 3-ified he'll gain all the neccesary stats to fight liberty prime BlackEdge 10:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
(Hello, Unknown here) If Frank was put into the world of Fallout 3, His stats WOULD INDEED be modified for Fallout 3 BUT!!!!! If Liberty Prime was put into the world of Fallout 2, then HIS stats would be modified for being game for the Chosen One. It would be true that he (like Horrigan) would put up a HELLOFA fight, but... THINK ABOUT IT (Both same size) and a gatling plasma gun in fallout 3, imagine the damage that would do.
That, and thanks to magical game engine/plot powers LP is invincible, the only thing that can kill him is scripted events, like in Broken Steel. -[[Talk:Poopskintheliar|Poopskintheliar]], Local retrocomputing geek. 23:57, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, if you don't mind me putting my feet in, except when you fight him, Horrigan kills Almost exclusively by scrpited events. 200.104.92.180 03:03, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
well there should really be no discussion about this. im gonna put up a few facts: LIberty: 40 feet tall made of metal hes shooting laser beams from his eyes (like superman) oh and hes throwing supersized mininukes Frankie: around 12 feet tall made of like 50% metal a plasma gatling and a 6 feet knife.
see?
the almighty Matamune Fact: Chuck norris: made of Flesh, around 7 feet tall, attacks with his Feet. Conclussion? Less metal and less size = More power. 200.104.92.180 21:44, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
- Chuck Norris: Unfunny joke that seriously needs to die. Idontlikethenewskin 04:34, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
Frank has 999 health like in the game BUT! if they went in a epic clash for eons to come frank would try to pick off prime with his plasma ( which deals more damage then the normal) but since prime is like a mini god or something itll make a small effect, prime while being shot at will use his eye lazers which has a lot of spread will miss but will deal splash damage. when prime gets close, reaction. use mini nukes. franks reaction is to dodge by running really. but then prime will switch to lasers which has a 45% chance of hitting frank. even if they do frank has armor. VERY good armor. frank, if he manages to figure this out he will make a throw of faith with his knife at primes head.35% chance of head getting hit. who wins? prime. if frank gets lucky he will win. or that they both attract chuck norris which chuck norris: ROFL nubs fighting. must kill nubs. prime and frank= alliance to kill chuck norris. epic clash for more eons to come. who wins? nobody. they tie and decide go their ways. now for the internet ways. frank wanders searching for nubs who think their like chuck norris. prime goes hunting for the strong nub hunters. they find each other.frank does nothing but prime starts attacking. frank starts to get pissed and attacks. THEN they start ripping each others legs and start beating each other. who wins? the trolls natrually who troll them to death.R.O.F.L Rifle 13:37, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
Frank Horrigan's health:999
Liberty Laser damage: 1000
Frank Horrigans Laserresistan: 20/80%, or in other words: from that 1000 damage, a max of 180 can happen. Horrigans Armorclass is also 45. For all the 11 year old fanboys who haven't played Fallout 2, that means a 45% chance that the laser hits, but does ZERO damage. Prime needs around 20 shots to take Frank down. Well, Frank does 90 to 210 damage in one burst and can burst 3 times per turn, doing 270 to 630 damage. Prime has NO ARMOR WHATSOEVER for some reason (Yeah, 0/0% with an armorclass of 0). He has just godmode on because they were to lazy to write a full npc. Frank does the full 270 to 630 damage in his turn, while prime does... wait. Fallout 3 and 4 don't have a turn based system, which brings me to this. You can't compare numbers from games as different as these, they are not made for this.
As someone you spend 500 hours in fallout 3, 200 in Fallout 4 and a lot more in the old games i can tell you: They are around the same power level, with Frank Horrigan maybe being a little bit stronger, but who knowes. And before someone starts with "nostalgia", i started with Fallout 3 so fa of m8.
"But the chosen one killed Frank Horrigan, so he can't be that strong" i hear the next guy. Well Dude, the frikking chosen one can also one hit Liberty Prime, even with his story given godmode on. --79.239.122.19 21:20, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
mod[]
well could some one at least make a costume for fawkes of frank horrigan so i can edit the voice and make a fallout 2 story using fallout 3 like the dc chronicles
Predator[]
So... no one's going to point out that he looks like a predator with those tubes coming out of his head? 74.212.39.22 21:35, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
Finnaly someone noticed that.71.251.62.180 20:18, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
look at horrigan and behemoth[]
ok so horrigan is an oversized FEV human so are super mutant behemoths. So could the super mutant behemoth have been inspired by horrigan not the robot Deathpaw 08:41, March 10, 2010 (UTC)deatpaw
a behemoth is still twice his size though but maybe, i think they just wanted a reason to have a nuke gun other that paradise falls 69.140.35.147 06:12, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
Frank horigan pwns[]
He can kill deathclaws,Bos members,and anything else but not the chosen one!!!! Or maybe the lone wander.
- Yeah he does pwn, I love this guy! Shame I had to kill him at the end of 2 :( --CHIEF Talk to me 21:27, October 17, 2010 (UTC) (testing new signature)
- He PUNCHED a Deathclaw in half. --Alexmikli 17:51, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
Delete this page till there's a relevent discussion?¬¬[]
Err...is there any use with the current discussion page? All it really seems to be is people saying "Frank Horrigan pwns", followed by "Libertay Prime FTW durr...".¬¬ That's the idea of the talk page. If you want to a fascist, go head and delete this page. Jauh0 18:32, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
gamebryo?[]
Somebody posted a couple pictures of him in the gamebryo engine. Are these real? if so, where'd they get them?--Icommandoxx 19:06, February 20, 2011 (UTC)icommandoxx
- Dude i asked the same thing on the untitled-4 no awnser still... but i did google it and found similar images on deviant art by some one... but not like this... [| here it is] Terrorblades Thinks ENCLAVE WILL RETURN! 19:24, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
- And now i found this... http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/images/13690-2-1283534430.jpg Terrorblades Thinks ENCLAVE WILL RETURN! 19:32, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
- I search it and this popped up.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRBSYMlsQH0
--Icommandoxx 20:00, February 20, 2011 (UTC)icommandoxx
- Yeah i found that to but i didn't watch it... Damn i wanna know where he found it! Terrorblades Thinks ENCLAVE WILL RETURN! 20:13, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Here you go: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=40692 Sparrow475 02:01, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
Where in fallout new Vegas was he mentioned?
Marine?[]
I havent played fallout 2 so sorry if this is a a dumb question but is he a marine cause he says semper fi when he dies? Kidtragic 15:38, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Nup, he's a Secret Service agent. Chief Talk to meh. 17:32, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
I think that if frank uses complete sentences then he must be more intellient than most other 2nd gen super mutants even though technically i consider frank a quote "Next Gen".
Glitch when fighting Frankie[]
I have FO2 1.02 USA (GOG version) with SFall and Hi-rez Textures and Frank is glitched. He takes no damage from critical hits, at all. "Frank Horrigan was critically hit in the eyes for no damage". And that's on lvl 31 with 151 SG & Gauss (or Pulse Rufle @ 151 EW). All perks are geared towards crits (More Crits, Better Crits, Sharpshooter, Sniper etc.), so having him take no damage from 95% of your attacks is just annoying. The turrets and NPC's deal no damage on crits either. Only non-critical attacks actually cause damage. I had to tank that b**d while everything else in the room was shooting him. 109.255.176.45 07:14, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
High intelligence for a moron?[]
If Frank had such low intelligence (because of the exposure to FEV and the fact he was just a plain moron) why does he, in his SPECIAL features, have 10 to Intelligence
JackWS
I want to second that motion; Your own article says “INT 1Ø, CHA 1Ø” and yet somehow, mysteriously, ¿he’s a high-functioning retard? Pick a story and stick to it; If FEV did damage his intelligence, then he must have been a damned 15 beforehand. 75.65.85.167 04:38, April 18, 2017 (UTC) Andering J REDDSON, who’s been doing this shit longer than you Fakeout 3/4/NV Fanshits have been alive, and fucking hates stupid bullshit (more than he hates Fakeout).
Why are you comparing Horrigan's actual intelligence, to strictly technical data? Caesar, for example, has a low intelligence score, yet this obviously is not the case.
Don't look at the technical data so literally. Especially when, as another example, Sergeant Dornan technically has a female proto id, yet he and his voice actor are obviously males. 寧靜 05:21, April 18, 2017 (UTC)