Talk:Feral ghoul reaver

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Yeah, i think we should remove the little bit about boners in the main paragraph... --RockandRhyme 01:43, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Tactics

As Reavers function much like Deatheclaws similar strategies are effective. Darting one and finishing it up with a powerful weapon from a distance can work if you remember to mind their ranged attack. Guns with a knockdown effect also can be put to good use.

Reavers can make mincemeat out of followers, especially in numbers. Dogmeat is less than useless against them, and even Charon equipped with Tesla armor can only last a few moments against a group of two or more. If you know you are about to approach a group of Reavers set your followers wait at a safe distance.—Preceding comment was unsigned. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

i would also suggest if you are playing on hard or very hard difficulty and you encounter a group of them to hotkey your stimpacks, that way if things turn for the worst u have a better chance of living to tell the tale Jaw272 14:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I haven't encountered one yet! Does the ghoul mask still work on them? If it does i can avoid fighting them! MissFeralsmasher--86.24.182.198 17:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes the ghoul mask does work. If you're fighting them in the presidential metro here is what you do: Kill every other ghoul ASAP. Then lure the Reaver to a railing and get on the other side, just out of reach and shot gun them in the head repeatedly and you'll be close enough that they won't use their greande attack. Be carefull as they can glitchthrough the railings after a few moments.--Jordanish 09:05, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reference

Indeed, and even Fallout Tactics featured the Reavers. Ausir 06:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Reavers

I agree that revers in fallout are probably not a reference to Gears of war, but I wonder if Firefly could have facilitated fallout's reaver concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaver_(Firefly) --136.165.203.100 17:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Cannie

As much as i lvoe firefly, I'd say no, especially considering the above point about FOT. DragonJTS 17:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The only Thing about tactics is that reavers were a human cult the worshiped technology, not to mention that tactics is not considered canon. There is a possibility that they will tie in this cult and that is how these ghouls can use weapons as they are transformed humans from this cult. Although i still like my firefly idea even though you are probably right and it has nothing to do with this.--136.165.203.100 17:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Cannie

Though I doubt the Reavers are a reference to Firefly (cool show BTW), it certainly makes infinitely more sense than a GOW2 reference.67.211.81.140 17:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Cavesloth

There is a certain resemblence. Both are completly insane to the point of outright cannabilism, charging towards potential emals with no thoguh of personal preservation. And both are mutated (one via lack of engine containment) DragonJTS 17:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

--== glitched?== Has anyone noticed these things go spazarific sometimes? They take barly any damage, and start convulsing like crazy! Is this just happening to me?--70.42.129.198 05:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)drnick

No, I had the same with all Reavers down in the Presidential Metro. Nearly broke Vengeance taking them down (went from perfect condition to about 25%)... -- Porter21 ^(talk) 15:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed here as well. They also become elastic when you shoot them with the Gauss Rifle, at least the ones in the Presidential Metro. fubarmonkey 02:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm thinkin it's intentional, sort of like how the agents go nuts in the Matrix to avoid bullets. I like it. These are the toughest hombres in F3 imo (forgetting behemoths), and were needed for high-leveled players. I had trouble with them at L26 with most skills at 100 (playing at hard), was finally able to handle the mess in AAFB tunnels with multiple Nuka grenades and my metal blaster, and a well-timed Fat Man shot.--173.18.255.101 06:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

When these guys go crazy in the presidential metro, I've found them to be nearly invincible. With 100 big guns, ive used 8 mini-nukes to kill just one, and on other occasionas as many as 13 bottlecap mines to kill again just one. I just cant see it being intentional. --99.184.21.230 15:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes these things are much too powerful for it to be intentional and it is VERY frustrating because they do so much damage and knock you back like 10 feet each time they strike you. Ridiculous. I actually threw my controller in frustration before I read this page >_> 68.205.81.87 05:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

• sigh* After Beaking My Main Weapon In The AAFB Meto I Had To Kill 4 of 'em with a .32 pistol and police baton (good thing I have those bugged perks from PL) Teh New Guy 03:30, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Armor

SHould it be put on the page that the armor they were resembles broken metal armor?(Ironic considering the dlc's name is broken steel) Werewolfhell 14:45, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

.. Thats the exact opposite of irony.--Greig91 19:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Lol, It will be Metal Armor because the Roamer had Combat Armor.

I just hope my Ghoul Mask gonnna do! Scary stuff those zombies --D4rkSh4d0w 20:34, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

What sucks is that I can kill a metal armor human with 3 laser rifle shots but this ghoul with DEGRADED metal armor can get stepped on by liberty prime without dieing.67.167.50.17 23:18, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

"Trivia"

I deleted it- the idea of a zombie like thing throwing projectiles is not exactly very unique. Especially the idea mentioned, I mean, if you're going to talk about shooting projectiles out of the body, what about a Glowing One?

THESE things killed Charon three times, so I had to leave him with Margot and kill the Reavers myself, infact I had to do that when i was at Adams Air base too! 74.170.163.209 15:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

That's nothing, I had Charon, Jerico, Clover, Butch, RL-3, and Fawkes with me, and only Fawkes survived, despite the fact that I was only on normal difficulty, and I was using the alien blaster, but I couldn't kill them quick enough, partially thanks to the stupid spaz glitch making them invincible. That aside, it took 3 hits or so each with the blaster to take them down, ridiculous, especially considering most tough enemies (talon mercs, super mutant masters, sentry bots) only take 1-2.Cavesloth 20:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)Cavesloth

Pick Up?

When I was sweeping up a couple of reavers left in the metro line, one of them threw a radioactive gore at me and it gave me a button (like when you pick up something fired out of the Rock-It Launcher) that said Radioactive Gore, the damage number, and the value.

WTF? -- D3V0NST8R 4:33 PM, 07 May 2009 (UTC)

Im just gonna use my victory rifle and shoot their balls off.

Moved from main page

*BOP writes on 16 May 2009: "I was at a level...20, I think, when I downloaded Broken Steel to my xbox 360. Charon and I ran across our first Reaver in one of the train yards. Bear in mind that Charon is wearing Outcast power armor and can take out a Death Claw with one or two shots from his magic shotgun. My PC can drop a Mutie or a Death Claw in one or two shots from her sniper rifle. That Reaver was RIDICULOUSLY difficult to kill. I was SCREAMING at the game as I watched my PC and Charon die at least 3 times. Finally, I loaded a previous save, made Charon wait while I went to deal with the Reaver. I hit hims with everything I had, including frag grenades. I jacked up on Buffout, Jet, Med-x, you name it, and still barely survived. I'd hate to see what it would take to kill one of those things on a difficult combat setting. Anyway, I ran into the one in the Taft tunnels (new game, level 14), on the way to the Citadel (being proactive, I went down after the ghouls rather than having them come up after my party). The first time, my PC died. The second time, I hit that thing with the gauss rifle (to little effect) and grenades, but somehow lost my gauss rifle. I was excited about that, and having to reload the game, but the third time around, I nailed him with 3 of the 4 nuka grenades (after getting all jacked up, and wearing winterized power armor), which made somewhat short work of him. Nuka grenades are your friend, but not in enclosed spaces."

Yup, they are dang tough, and I love it. My level 29 character was able to kill one (game setting at hard) down in the hazmat tunnels by the mall by sneaking near it with the Chinese stealth armor, placing two bottlecap mines (500+ damage each) between it and me, and hitting it in the head with a sneak attack critical from Lincoln's repeater. The second bottlecap mine took it down as it was coming after me. Just watch out when you get to the Presidential tunnels, there's a place where you run into about 5-6 of them along with a bunch of glowing ones and lesser feral ghouls. --173.18.255.101 01:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Moved from article

Combat Tactics

• Be careful when fighting these variants of Ghouls. Even one is capable of killing the Lone Wanderer if he/she is not careful.

• It is also best to use drugs such as (Psycho, Med-X and Jet) to increase the damage of your attacks on the Feral Ghoul Reaver.

• Reavers can be easily destroyed if you are on a ledge. Just make sure you shoot their radioactive gore they throw at you, as it does a surprising amount of damage.

• Like with the Deathclaw, crippling the Reaver with the Dart gun will give you a much easier time with them, but beware: their radioactive gore attack is just as if not more deadly than their melee attacks.

• One effective way to take down the Feral Ghoul Reaver's is to use the Alien Blaster, however it can take a number of headshots and wastes valuable ammo (The Alien Power Cell)

• A Feral Ghoul Reaver can survive a direct shot from a Fat Man.

• Using a combination of the Victory Rifle to knock him over, then A3-21's Plasma rifle to finish him off

• A quick and effective way to take him out: equip the Ghoul Mask, then throw a couple Bottlecap Mine, three will surely kill him, at his feet (DO NOT throw it straight to the ghoul, since the mine impact will turn him hostile). Then, get clear to avoid any possible damage from the blast and take the Ghoul Mask off: this will make the ghoul become immediately hostile, thus triggering the mines.

Kingclyde 17:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)kingclyde

• Crippling their arm could be effective to decrease aim and stability of their throws.

Encountering at Mid Levels

I was at Level 14 and if you goto Grayditch and travel towards Red Racer Factory, there is an outpost there. Opposite there I found a reaver and 2 roamers. I also had clover, that thing made mincemeat of Clover at least 3 times before killing me, i mean bloody hell this makes mirelurks look like a picnic. I didnt even have the dart gun so crippling took ages. I can tell you that this was the first time an enemy became really frustrating and when you kill one you get <10 caps, I mustve used 10 stimpaks-thats already 300 caps + ammo + repair costs. Not only are they hard but theyre freaking expensive too. There should be a more clearer way to dispatch these, eg. some sort of weakness you can exploit. Cripple and kill is not bad but id prefer something stronger. Heck, even eugene couldnt get this freak. I dont know how im gonna survive in the metros or the Dunwich building for that.

Reaver

What are historical reavers? --70.142.41.253 18:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

A reaver is basically a pirate; one who pillages, loots, and steals.

Tactics

It shall be noted that the Dart Gun is essential when battling a Ghoul Reaver, especially since it is their melee attacks that hits the hardest. Their Radioactive Gore attack can be ceased by shooting the it when it is in their hand. An effective way to deal with them is using the Dart Gun to cripple their legs, followed by a Jingwei's Shocksword or Tesla cannon due to its damage over time effect. A Fat man would do fine too, if you dont't mind wasting precious Mini Nukes.

Most importantly, it can also easily kill most followers if you're not careful; so either leave them at a safe distance or constantly watch them. If you thought that was the worst, reavers can be encountered as low as level 13, which can be highly dangerous to an improperly equipped character.

I always carry something huge for times like these, my first one was killed with a Gauss Rifle,Psycho, and Med-X, plus 3 Bottlecap Mines. that said, these things killed me my first time i saw one, and the second time those robots in the presidential metro did nothing. leave partners somewhere else, except fawkes.--Valoopy

Video?

Can somebody with PC version take a vid of the Reaver freakouts? They are crazy jiggedy. Do the regular Ghouls move hella fast like that? No other Ghoul has ever survived long enough for me to really se their movements. V.A.T.S. addict 21:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Microwave emitter in Lookout Point usage.

I have found that the Microwave emitter to be able to take down reavers in one nearly a whole usage of AP or maybe just a few follow up shots afterwards when I've snuck up on them.

I'm not sure if this is specific to the Microwave emitter in general or maybe mesmeretrons are a good way of taking them on? (was around level 18 and had sneak and energy weapons near maxed..)

122.49.171.11 04:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Lem is cool

Some scary stuff

Ok i don't know if it glitched or not but on point lookout I have a reaver by the Trapers Shack attack me right? Shoot it with the double barrel and....It lives and launches like 100ft in the AIR for no reason and still throws radiation until it hit the ground and died but did I find super reaver or a scratch in my disc?\

Dont worry about it too much, It's a pretty common glitch that happens mainly with deathclaws, but has been known to happen with other creatures too. WouldYouKindly 05:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

ADDED by Point Lookout?

If one did not have Broken Steel, but had Point Lookout, would the Reavers still be in Point Lookout? And would Reavers be added to the Capital Wasteland if you do not have BS but do have PL? I have both, but I noticed two Base IDs. //--TehK 03:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Reavers will be present in PL even if you don't have BS. And for all intents and purposes, they are exactly the same. And no, they will not be added to the Capital Wasteland, because they are not added to any leveled encounter lists for the Capital Wasteland. However, a mod could easily fix that. --Macros 07:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Eh, I was just asking, I have both add-ons anyway lol. They should have at least retextured the Reavers for PL :( //--TehK 16:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

So think about it, if you download both Broken Steel and Point Lookout, you're getting less for your money right? Because if you download one of these packs, you're getting Reavers in your game. If you download the other pack, then you're just getting what you already had, but for an extra few pence/cents.

There's also a Reaver in the Cryo Lab on Mothership Zeta. I don't know how to add this to the main article so I'll leave that for someone else.

Sneak detection?

The article states that Reavers can detect the Sneaking character in the Chinese Stealth Suit. I have found this NOT to be the case. I hit one in the cemetary near Ark and Dove probably 10-15 times with the shock sword (in and out of vats) with the stealth suit on and alert never went above caution. Same thing at the Detention Center. My alert went to danger against 1 reaver, probably because I did something dumb like bump into him. V.A.T.S. addict 23:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I actually find them pretty easy to sneak up on, even without the CSA (which I don't use because it's cheap, imo). I removed it from the article but feel free to put it back in if this isn't the case with all versions of the game. HBS75.69.104.65 02:00, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reaver doin the matrix?!?

When i was going through the presidential subway to get to the airbase. Then i come to a chamber where robots and zombies are fighting. Everything was killed exept one reaver. I must have been spazzing out because its upper body was moving very fast randomly. Fawks could barly hit it with hit galting laser. When i FINALLY killed it its body was flying all over the place.I find it body in air the air motionless. Is this a common glitch for The 360.

Same thing happened to me but with multiple reavers. It sure looked like a bug. 85.226.157.90 21:32, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Radioactive Gore

Iv'e read through the entire article and discussion page. Alot of people say that it says you can pick up RG, but for me it told me HP and RADS like I was drinking it. Or at least I think so.

Incredibly tough

Like a idiot i fought the reaver in the Presidential metro with the unique chinese assault rifle and combat armor on hard with Star Paladin Cross equipping the plasma rifle/hellfire armor at lv22. Dumbest idea ever, it took 200+ rounds to the head to kill, but fortunately Cross does make a pretty good tank lol, nearly as good as fawkes.

I... must be crazy. Playing on Normal, these things are hard, yes, but I've never, ever been in danger of dying from one. I don't take followers around because, well, I'm the Lone Wanderer. And I wear Armored Vault 101 suit because I like how it looks, but it offers practically nothing in the way of DR. Even in the Presidential Metros, with two spazzing, I still took them down pretty easily with Dart Gun -> Lincoln's Repeater -> Metal Blaster. My Luck and Perception are both 10, so maybe I just get a lot of criticals? But I don't see what all the hype is. Albino Radscorpions were the bullshit enemies, before I took Entomology.

First, wouldnt it suck if you had to face 1 in The Hole in The Pitt. Second, if you encounter 1, no groups of ghoulettes or glowing ones, if you have the MIRV, SAVE, equip it, and fire away! Third, this is an acctual story that happened to me. P.S., My name is Ark on the game(after Ark Thompson on a different game): I was walking around in point lookout, trying to find some thing to do. so, as i was walking, i just happened to be passing a gang of ghoulies. i got out my chinesse sneak armor, along with my lucky shades, combined with a hotkey of the trench knife, backwater rifle, a double barreled shottie, and a set of frag grenades(about 50-60.) i took aim with my backwater rifle and dispached all but the reaver. then, with a combo of 4 frag grenades, exactly 2 trench knife slashes, 7 shots of my backwater rifle, and finished it with 5-8 double barelled blasts . keep in mind i had critical sneak attacks going off like crazy, and my guns were mostly in good condition. i only used 3 stimpacks, with a combo of running backwards , jumping and firing. it only took me about 2-5 minitues to kill it. ( the reaver fits are helarious LAWL!!!!!) ````

on a note

for incredibly tough, i was the one who wrote that, my name is fn6000, and i didnt sign in by accident

aghhh!

i meant that i only wrote the bottom half! the one part about point lookout! SORRY fn6000

Half Life Gonome?

This seems reminiscent of the Gonome from Half Life: Opposing Force. Heres the page off of the half life wiki http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Gonome --Atlas Lied! 15:00, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Only to the degree that all zombies are reminiscent of each other.--Gothemasticator 20:21, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

A super mutated version of an already mutated one that throws deadly gore? Yeah you're right nothing alike.--Atlas Lied! 21:31, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

You're a game designer (or a movie producer). You've already got some version of zombies (created by a virus, by radiation, by black magic, whatever). You're trying to ramp up the action for the later portion of your game/movie. How to make your zombies scarier/tougher? Give them a ranged attack. What do deranged mutated zombies use for a ranged attack? How about gross bodily stuff? Yeah, that's a good idea.

My point being, neither one is a reference to the other. Sure they are similar, but in the same way that all zombies are similar to each other. It's parallel development of ideas in a pretty narrow corridor of possibilities.--Gothemasticator 21:44, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

No, they're obviously a reference to 28 Days Later because of the projectile bloody vomit spewing zombies in that movie, amirite? Just messin', but seriously: Gothemasticator is right. You can only have so many types of enemy that slowly amble their way toward you. If you already have a melee enemy (Feral Ghoul), you'll need a tougher melee enemy (Roamers), then a short-range enemy (Glowing Ones), and finally a long-range enemy (Reavers). It's not like you can give a zombie a gun, either. Have you ever seen the undead wielding AK-47s? ...I thought not. (not to beat a dead horse or anything) ～Iridia talk | contrib 00:57, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It is possible to pick up and radioactive gore in the PC version. It doesn't have a pip icon and looks is thrown like a grenade, despite not having an ingame model. Can kill a reaver with 4-5 shots with max skills.

The easiest effective tactic against one reaver

Use melee weapon like shishkebab or fine katana. Let it attack. Block. Then chop. Block again. It won't throw stuff, and when you block even if you loose some HP it will be way less than without blocking. You should leave your followers waiting far enough, because it's almost impossible to protect them, since it attack them first completely ignoring your attacks.

My tactic is cool because it requires no ammo and it's pretty easy to perform. If you ever played "Elvira Mistress of The Dark" on Amiga, you know that kind of combat. Here it works exactly the same. Melee weapons rule. I have 70% on melee weapons and play on very hard skill.

Tough stuff

These things are a nightmare to deal with. On the Very Hard difficulty I found that a sneak attack critical from a moderate condition Fat Man (around 70%) while using Psycho and with 100 points of Big Guns skill still left the bugger with around a fourth of his health left. That being said it is still the most effective way to kill them I've found yet, especially if there is more than one present. The Gatling Laser also seems to stumble them pretty well, but be prepared to use up a lot of ammo unless it is being used to finish a weakened one off.

Yea they're pretty goddamn ridiculous. They also hit for far too much damage on VH: I had the full 85%DR (full T-51b, Tough Survival Guru, Toughness, etc.) and it still only took six attacks from a reaver to kill me. Sov68n 11:44, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reaver Kill Method

The reavers can be a pain in the neck and really tough to beat (I play on the hardest difficulty setting). Personally I choose to cripple one of their legs by throwing one or two frag grenades at them and then in case of their legs isnt crippled shoot lets say with a plasma rifle at it, once its crippled they are slowed down and cannot perform those fast attacks which will buy you time and comfort, it takes a while to take them down but at least your safe and sound along the way, Thats how it works for me

The Essentials Of Reaver Combat

The Essentials Of Reaver Combat

WeaponS

To start, Some of these non-unique weapons also work but you probably can figure it out.Also You Might not have all these so if you dont have it dont fret you only need one.

You will need:

A Telsa Cannon,BlackHawk,Mauler,Gauss rifle,Xuanlong rifle,Victory rifle,Lincolns Repeater,Stabhappy,Terrible Shotty,Alien Blaster,Firelance,Destabilizer,AtomicPulverizer,Dismemberer,Fisto!,Backwater rifle,and Jingwies Shock Sword,Shiskebab,Dart Gun,Railway rifle,and ,MPLX NovaSurge.

Armor

Armor in this section is only a suggestion.

Chinese Stealth armor-100 sneak

T-51b set

Winterized T-51b

Tesla set

Enclave armors

Medical stuff

Must Haves

A lot of Stims,20-30 at least

Rad-Away

Drugs-i dont use them but you know whatever you want.

Perks

Your Decision but you need Survival Guru and better criticals,10 luck, and finesse if you want to use stabhappy

Fisto! must be used with Paralyzing Palm

The rest is your decision

Tactics

The Reaver Tactic is usually charging right at you, however at medium distance they will throw gore, if this happens you have no choice but to rush it because that gore can cripple you easily.If you have a melee weapon, use it in Vats first too see its effect, if it has little effect abandon it and switch.

Thats all i can recommend but you can make your own decisions.

The strangest bug

While fighting a ghoul reaver in Bethesda ruins (after luring it out of the underground) I tried to fist fight it. The result was 'spaghettification' as the ghoul flew around the sky, occasionally getting stuck in buildings. I tried this several times, on the forth attempt my character suddenly died. Although I was fairly low on health I did have 85% damage resistance. Anyone else experienced this?