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I don't really see why turpentine would be considered an easter egg. I'm not sure if it just isn't explained properly, but I'm hesitent to remove it without checking first. 68.49.115.157 03:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the turpentine assessment. It's not an easter egg reference to oblivion, it is a real chemical that bethesda simply used in both games. 24.22.8.251 04:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

F3 additional Easter Eggs / References

I think the NC-C1864 reference is actually a reference to the year 1864 when the US Congress passed the Coinage Act.

As a Star Trek fan, I would be inclined to believe NCC-1864... However, I find the Coinage Act more likely. Especially since the bottlecaps are used as currency

Digital Ronin 08:46, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I take it noone else here has been to the Dunwich Building, in the extreme Southwest of the F3 map? That is IMO the creepiest, scariest place in the whole game ... and it's a huge Lovecraft reference ...! I'd include the entry myself, but I'm new to this particular wiki and don't know the protocols for such. --PaxArcana 07:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to add it! It's open content for a reason.

Done. ^_^--PaxArcana 09:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the 'Wired Reflexes' Perk is a reference to a modification in the old pen and paper game Shadowrun. The game's been around forever, but I'm not sure if the designers of Shadowrun got the term from somewhere else (been ages since I've seen Bladerunner and a google search didn't turn much up). Any feelings on this? 68.49.115.157 05:47, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Funny Things article?

I just added an "easter egg" that, admittedly, isn't an actual easter egg. It's a funny little thing you can piece together when you see it. I know there's enough of these sorts of things in Fallout 3; my memory is a bit hazy on the originals. Perhaps an article could be formed>?

A little bit too liberal with what is an easter egg?

I've just been through all the fallout 3 stuff and a lot of it is either gameplay stuff or barely even a reference. People seem to be taking a little license with their assumptions

You've a point here. Really, most of these aren't really "Easter Eggs" at all, but references to other games, music, TV, movies or what have you. Maybe this should be something like "References In Fallout", and list the stuff that is really an Easter Egg separately, although some stuff could easily be both - and open to interpretation. Revelation-23 11:15, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Are you really sure that everything is reference to something? It's impossible to give name to character without reference. For example, if you name someone Yuri, you can be reffering to C&C:RA2, but Yuri is very common russian name... J.i.gorkij 11:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Some of the stuff listed is a stretch. Take the Get Shorty reference, for example. That one is really pushing it, and honestly, I don't think it belongs. But it's not the only one that's questionable. There are a lot of little things here and there, but it's not as blatant in Fallout 3. Again, most of these things would probably be references, not Easter Eggs. And as you said, some stuff might be totally random or unintentional. I don't think Bob (the tree) is named after someone, after all! There are a lot of people named in the world. Revelation-23 11:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree completely. Some of the 'Easter Eggs' listed are way too vague to be considered a reference to any one thing. Hot Fuzz and Lucky Number Sleven are two damn good examples of entries that are REALLY pushing it at best. 68.49.115.157 08:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's like calling character George or James reference to someone. J.i.gorkij 11:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Agree with all said so far, and add that many of these are also covered already in Special Encounters pages. Suggest that we split up this page into special encounters (apart from the F3 ones, chuck em cause we have those pages already), and make new pages for Cultural References if necessary, although I expect they will fit just fine on the games's main pages. And of course, a page for just Easter Eggs, real ones, such as, hmm, couldn't find one, heheh. Or we could just leave it, it is wildly popular after all, and just milk it for new references to put onto the main pages and occasionally delete the more egregious examples of nothings like turpentine, see above, and misleading things like the state of the Mad Max pic caption, before my impending edit of it :o) VvAnarchangelvV 08:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but any in game reference that breaks the fourth wall to refer to something outside the game world is considered an easter egg. There is no need for two separate pages.Fourthgeartapped 21:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I would have to agree that any -obvious- reference to another piece of literature/tv/game/movie would be considered an Easter Egg, but adding a references page would certainly clear up any trivial issues like obscure references that not everyone might understand (like the Get Shorty reference), and provide a place where all references, not just intended ones can go. For Easter Eggs to be effective, they have to be clear in their humor or reference, and some of these are pushing it. I am no better than others at adding obscure references people might not get. That way any obscure reference could simply be moved to the reference page instead of being deleted outright. This would, of course, have some issues with what references qualify as easter eggs, but it would clean up the page in the long run.

--Elko 21:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I think it's very liberal to what an easter egg is. Originally it was something you really had to search for, and were usually rewarded with something actually breaking the fourth wall (say showing something that obviously doesn't belong in the game), not humorous references. I'd say we should rename this page (to say References to other games or shows, or something - suggestion?) and save Easter Eggs for the real ones.

--Mirar 21:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Cultural References is an accurate title. Page is heading in the right direction, imo. Elko 22:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

armitage

i think that the character of armitage (dr zimmer's bodyguard) would more likely be a reference to william gibson's character armitage from neuromancer.

Blue Card/Red Card

I believe the actual items dropped by Feral Ghouls are "Red Line Card" and "Blue Line Card", not Key card. I'm assuming that they are supposed to be pass-cards for the two subway lines - the Red Line and the Blue line. I do not believe this is a Doom reference.

they are "pass-cards" for the two subway lines for when you active the maintenance robots, if you do not have the correct pass they will start attacking you including your partner (not sure about meatdog)

Shady Sam (Removed)

"During one of the Daring Dashwood & Argyle Radio Plays on Galaxy News Radio, 'Super Mutant Mayhem', Argyle plants an explosive on a Super Mutant, blowing them to smithereens. He refers to this as the 'Shady Sam Shuffle', who was an NPC in Bethesda's previous title, TES: Oblivion."

He actually says "The Shady Sands Shuffle" which is already referenced elsewhere in the wiki (I shouldn't even need to explain the reference). Removed.

"The Mr. Gutsy robot will sometimes say when you kill one "Pin my medals upon my chest" or "Tell my mom I did my best" which are small parts of a "song" used to regulate breathing when performing daily exercise in the military, also sung in full metal jacket. " It seems very unlikely to me that this is a reference to the film Full Metal Jacket rather than just the US military.82.3.87.13 18:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Fallout references

I removed references to previous Fallouts. It's a sequel, ffs. It's silly to list all references to the Fallout universe lore here. Ausir 21:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

A DOOM(2005) movie reference to add(?)

What about the Mister Gutsy you can hire from a traveling merchant? It says, "Kill them all and let God sort them out" as one of its 'battle cries', and it is a Sergeant-ranked Mister Gutsy. It's a reference to DOOM, the 2005 movie, if you think about it. Sarge, the head of the RRTS squad in DOOM(2005), has a line that goes "Kill them all, let God sort them out". He's also a Sergeant(obviously, as his handle-id is Sarge).

It's a bit odd, isn't it, that the Mister Gutsy is a Sergeant... Coincidence?

174.48.209.178 01:21, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

That's hardly the first or only use of that line which was first attributed to Arnaud Almaric. Richie9999 (talk) 01:23, December 19, 2013 (UTC)