Talk: Assassin suit

Story

So what is the story behind this suit? --71.143.151.56 03:39, December 24, 2010 (UTC)MilkmanAssassin

That's a good question. Most likely (and I'm speculating here) someone from either pre-war, trying to assassinate Sinclair, or someone more recent going for the target of Father Elijah. It would stand to reason that he's not a very liked man. So as for the suit, I think it looks more pre-war than new, but you never know.. anyone have any further info, please share.--98.162.251.108 03:28, December 25, 2010 (UTC) No idea on story but perhaps to help with people with low sneak go through the game easier.

Heh, either way, it looks Awesome. One of the best looking armors in the game, hands down. - Darkshadowmark

I think it really really looks like the suit the assassin Karl Ruprecht Kroenen from Hellboy wears, especially if you wear a NCR veteran ranger helmet with it, it could be just a reference, also, yeah it could be like an assassin that Sinclair hired to kill Dean when he found out about his affair with Vera.

**spoilers**

Maybe it's the suit that Christine was using when she was hunting Elijah? It would make sense as a Brotherhood, long range scout/assassin she would have top gear. Could be she acquired it in the Big Empty base, and it was taken away when she was collared.Taipanpenguin 23:24, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

My gut tells me that this suit may have been created by the devs as a small gift for players who were fans of the Chinese Stealth Suit but didn't like the fact that you couldn't remove the mask (or fans who thought it was nerfed too far in New Vegas.) It's definitely more useful than the Chinese version. ~Anonymous of the Wastes

Updated Code

While Using a modding program, i found the ID code for the suit. At least for my Console. It is 0200E1B7 it let me have the assassin suit, should work for another person

ref to alpha protocol?

the suit looks similar to one of the stealth suits in AP, could just be a subtle nod

I don't think so. It looks similar to a the apparel of a great number of "stealthy" characters over several games. I can actually think of five off the back of my hand. Unless someone finds concrete proof otherwise I don't think this is a reference to anything in particular. ~Anonymous of the Wastes

PICTURE?!?!?!?!?!?

jesus what does it look like?

Not shown on Light Touch Perk Image as stated on page.

Not the armor in the Light Touch perk image. Someone has it listed that it is, but it clearly isn't. The standard Leather armor is on the image, not the assassin suit. The pouches and pauldrons are identical to the Leather armor, removing that note.Ninety9Soulz 00:10, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

assassin suit or leather armor

Its hard to tell without seeing the left arm in the light touch perk icon. Does leather armor have the pouches in the rear of the suit as the assassin suit does? I couldn't find a pic of the rear.

On the back of the belt on the Leather armor there are four pouches, identical to the picture. The two pouches on the right leg are also identical. The pauldron on the right shoulder is the same as well, as well as the arm and hand. The assassin suit on the other hand has three larger pouches on each side. Definitely Leather armor, not the assassin suit, simple mistake though.Ninety9Soulz 13:05, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Image?

Why hasnt anyone uploaded an image of this? I know it sounds whiny but just about everything else has an image uploaded and its been a week since dead money has come out.

-It's what you get when the only users capable of filling out a proper guide to something are console users - in this 
 case Xbox360 users. You'll just have to live with it until either one of them remembers to actually take a picture of 
 it, or until Dead Money arrives on PC.--Frosty. 04:56, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Or it could be that the vast majority of Xbox360 players don't have a capture card and the only way they could take a picture of it would be taking a picture of their TV, which would yield horrible, blurry, and color distorted pictures. Of course if it makes us feel better we can keep thinking there all lazy bums. Doesn't bother me one bit. :)

Oh, look. Another platformist. What's a platformist, you say? It's much like being a racist but instead of being prejudiced against other races, you're prejudiced against people who play games on platforms other than your own.174.0.106.101 07:16, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm a proud 360 owner, and I try to contribute, but I'm gonna let others put pictures on, because I don't have a capture card, and I'm not getting one just to put individual pictures on a wiki when someone else could probably take a better pic. TJbrena 16:22, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looking for The perfect helmet?

After trying on the rangers helmet, I think it makes a perfect match to go with the armor. Same color scheme so it goes great. Just thought I'd add this in for anyone in "need" of a helmet. --Mat mod 02:03, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

I second your taste of fashion, the red eyes of the ranger helmet really bring out the already present bad ass aura of the suit.--FLaSHBaCK HaSH 01:50, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely, this is my go to gear and it looks great. Really loving that armor with the holorifle. Kelevra1 05:26, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

I read this post and I'm like "these guys have no idea what they're talking about. The helmet'd be too bulky and wouldn't look good." Then, I try on the helmet, and it actually looks great. So, thank you.--With care and happiness, Supermutantslayer450' YOU. LOSE. 00:51, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Bug

I encountered a bug with this suit in that the +10 to Sneak remained on my character after I took off the suit (I first noticed when I was leveling up and was wondering my Sneak was 10 points higher than it was supposed to be). As soon as I put the suit back on and took it off again though, my Sneak went back to it's normal number. I'm not sure what conditions caused this, and it hasn't happened since.174.0.106.101 08:57, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Not best light armor

I use a character that is entirely based on stealth and nothing else and i personally think this armor is overrated. By the time you're the suggested level for this DLC (20+ i think it said)you should either have enough points in sneak to make this unnecessary or have points in something else to allow you to plow through enemies and in both cases the standard sierra madre armor has a DT of 16 (rendering combat armor and metal armor reinforced obsolete as well) and is a better choice and even more so with the sierra madre armor reinforced(again more things becoming useless. this time combat armor mk2) with it's 18 DT. However i will agree that it is one of the better looking armors in the game but i dont play this game to look pretty--Ze5ro1 17:19, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well unlike you, a lot of people DO play the game to “look pretty” as you put it. I don’t give a rats ass what the damage threshold is on a particular piece of armor, I wear what I feel looks best and suits my needs. I also try to use a modicum of reality when I play. Although as far as the game is concerned it makes no difference, but personally I think a stealth based character sneaking around in a bright yellow set of armor is ridiculous and laughable! Not to mention that a stealth character shouldn’t need to worry much about DT. If done properly you should be going unnoticed in most circumstances making DT a mostly moot point.

However feel free to play the game any way you see fit, just try not to generalize and say that all light armor is now useless/obsolete based on your personal preference.

As for your other point, the +10 to sneak is VERY useful. If you’re a stealth based character and you want a 100 sneak skill then this armor would allow you to save 10 points to add to something else. Seeing as there are many useful skills in the game I plan each skill point I add based on several factors, one of which is clothing I can use to shave points off yet still get the skill higher if I need it.

I played the DLC and to be honest I didn’t find it that hard, I have no clue why they recommend you be at such a high level before you start it. I’m quite sure you could get through it at 10-15 with a little effort. ReapTheChaos 08:53, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I see your point.I also to state that i started the game at level 30 and double the perks (on 360) which makes this armor useless in my case but not in the case of others obviously. I just personally like to have armor for protection rather than stat boosts. same reason i used vault 34 security armor over the chinese stealth suit (pretty much the vanilla equivalents of these armors)

I must disagree with you on the +10 sneak however. With careful planning and utilizing all of the skill books you can get the majority of your skills to 100 and (in my case at least) to a minimum of 50. unarmed speech and barter are all tied with 50 for me explosives is 80 and survival is 75. The rest are all 100 (-20 to all when i first leave goodsprings but i get the skill books immediately after.) so throughout the game most of the skill raising items serve no purpose. (not even selling. I start with 10000 leather armor so i just sell that) I know that on a regular game this would be useful until you leveled all the way but i start leveled all the way so this is just my point of view.--Ze5ro1 01:59, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sweet...

I finally found an armor that looks cooler than reinforced Leather. Now I just need to go get the rebreather. Sigh, if only they still had the talon combat helmet from FO3.Zac hemker 17:26, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it is a nice looking set of armor. Like you, I prefer the reinforced leather based solely on its looks. However for headgear I wear the 1'st Recon beret. I think the +5 critical chance and the +1 perception far outweigh the loss of damage threshold. Plus it looks so damn cool! ReapTheChaos 07:50, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Turns out the Ranger Helmet is my new favorite to wear with this armor. They look like they were made to go together. The colors match almost perfectly and there is no awkward size mismatch like I see with other armor types. Zac hemker 23:44, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Cool story bro

"With it's 14 DT and being Light armor it is a much better choice for stealth based players over the Chinese stealth armor although the Chinese stealth armor does increase the time limit of Stealth Boy."

Don't you just love it when people start pulling ideas out of their ass?--Frosty. 06:08, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody please get a better picture?

I know this point has already been brought up, but we didn't really resolve anything other than that the fact that it being an X360 exclusive doesn't have much to do with the problem. The current picture is blurry and red (or maybe I should go off my pills for a few days), and makes it hard to see the actual details of the suit. I keep hearing about how cool it looks, but all I can see is a black bodysuit and some red hair. Captain tweed 21:52, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, now that a picture from the PC version has been added I think it looks bloody awesome. Sleek and deadly. --Frosty. 17:33, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

M.I.?

anyone else notice this looks a hell of a lot like the armor worn by the mobile infantry in Starship Troopers?Icommandoxx 23:04, March 20, 2011 (UTC)icommandoxx