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Successfully Negotiate Peace between NCR and BOS was going to be a quest in Van Buren, the canceled Fallout 3 by Black Isle Studios.[1]


As is with most people in Hoover Dam, Governor Dodge is sick of war with the BOS. The war has lasted for almost two years. In the grand scheme of things, two years does not seem like a very long time for war, but with supplies dwindling and equipment failing, not to mention the constant state of high tension around Hoover, two years might as well be two decades. Dodge is both desperate and ambivalent. Ambivalent to the point of not caring what happens to himself, and desperate for anything to happen that would end the war. He will mention to the player that he has tried all avenues in communication with the BOS, but nothing seems to work. Hoover caravan groups get hit hard by BOS soldiers and keep vital supplies from reaching the needy. Attacks on the front gate used to come frequently, but have died down to the point of stopping for almost a year. However, Dodge is certain the BOS are just building up strength for a full assault on the ever weakening Hoover Dam.


Dodge will give an estimate of the BOS location, but for an exact location, the player will need to convince the former scribes about his peace intentions. Once the ball is in motion, the player can create peace with the BOS in a few ways. The easiest way (in the way of limited brain power), is to go to Maxson's bunker and just kill everyone there. That would pretty much solve Dodge's problem with attacks against Hoover and its caravans.

Another way is to discover the deception of Devon Hill at Maxson's Bunker and his crazy association with the COS. Foil his plans, uncover his relationship with Ailis McLafferty, and put a stop to them both through either tattling or offing them, then the groundwork for peace with BOS' actual leader and Dodge may commence. Neither way gets the player more XP than the other.

Character type completion breakdown

  1. Combat Boy, Diplomacy Boy - Go in and blow shit up at Maxson's Bunker. Go do a little detective work – player's choice. Combat XP is not more or less than peace XP.
  2. Stealth Boy, Combat Boy - Can sneak evidence of Crimson's deception of working both sides, giving Dodge more incentive and a glimmer of hope that peace can be attainable once Devon is out of power.


Design Document
CharactersGovernor Joseph Dodge · Mjr. Jack Fleming · Guido Giordano · Enzo Giordano · Vinnie Giordano · Dorris · Ailis McLafferty · Ralph Peoples · Mitch Stiller · Candice Morris · Pierre LaPoubelle · Dr. Yuri Polivich · Pablo Riviera · Frieda Van Graff · Milko · Dusty Heart · Beatrice · Otto Steed · Dianne · Farmer Dave · Bob · Mary-Joe · Billy-Bob · Mallet McBride · Ginger Flowers · Nancy Haggard · Arcade Gannon · Mike Lawson · Hoover Dam commoner
LocationsThe Rim (Fancy PC pad) · Downtown (Frieda's Firearms · Dusty's Desires · Hock-it to Bob) · Baseline · Scum Pits · Sub-Level 1C
QuestsGet Meeting with Governor Dodge · Negotiate Peace between NCR and BOS · Get City Council attendance back to norm · Join up with the 3-Some Caravan Company  · Spy on Crimson Caravan for 3-Some Caravan · Join up with the Crimson Caravan Company as spy for 3-Some · Successfully frame 3-Some Caravan Co. for extortion and murder · Successfully extort money out of Ailis McLafferty using evidence · Expose Crimson Caravan to Governor Dodge  · Give filtration schematics to former BOS scribes · Get school attendance up to norm · Teach class on Wasteland survival · Clear out critters in Scum Pits for possible hydroponics lab · Get shipments from Denver for materials to build hydroponics lab · Discover Sub-level 1 · Relay new history from traveling the wasteland to Candice · Get Mary-Joe to stop turning tricks & get access to Scum Pits · Discover lost Hoover Dam war and Sub-level 1 history · Relay new history from traveling the wasteland to Candice · Help Beatrice in a bar fight · Do Bob's bounty hunter jobs · Recalibrate the two working power generators to be more efficient and increase power · Get liquor for Pablo
OrganizationsNew California Republic · Crimson Caravan · 3-Some Caravan · Followers of the Apocalypse