Overview[edit | edit source]
The NCR refugee camp at Bitter Springs is in need of assistance, due to a lack of both manpower and supplies. The Courier can improve the situation for the camp's inhabitants by undertaking a series of tasks.
Quick walkthrough[edit | edit source]
|Side Quest: No, Not Much|
|Talk to Captain Gilles at Bitter Springs.|
|Talk to Lt. Markland about medical supplies.|
|Find supplies in three nearby supply caves.|
|Request reinforcements from Camp Golf.|
|Request reinforcements from Camp Forlorn Hope.|
|Request reinforcements from Camp McCarran.|
|Return to Captain Gilles.|
|Reward: 300 XP, NCR fame and:|
or 2 Pork n'Beans, 2 purified water, $20 NCR, NCR fame
or $100 NCR, 21 Case, 5.56mm; negative Karma
|Leads to: Flags of Our Foul-Ups|
I Put a Spell on You
Detailed walkthrough[edit | edit source]
- Speaking to Captain Gilles at Bitter Springs will give the player's character the option to begin this quest. She can be found to the north of the camp in the NCR military area, up the hill from the refugee tents.
- Gilles will explain the situation in the camp, and detail what can be done to assist.
- Gilles will also mention attacks on the camp by a mystery sniper. Further inquiry will begin the Climb Ev'ry Mountain quest, which can be undertaken at the same time as No, Not Much.
- Note that the three parts of this quest can be completed in any order.
Aiding Lt. Markland[edit | edit source]
- Lt. Markland can be found in the nearby medical tent at the top of the ramp leading from the refugee tents.
- Markland will explain his need for medical supplies. He will also state that, as a field medic, he is unable to deal with the psychological problems of the refugees without access to specialized textbooks. He will require 3 doctors bags, and 2 medical books which can be purchased from Blake at the Crimson Caravan Company.
- Talking to Markland will begin the quest Bitter Springs Infirmary Blues. Completion of that quest will also complete this part of No, Not Much.
- If you have Arcade Gannon with you, he can teach Lt. Markland instead of those Textbooks.
Finding the supply caches[edit | edit source]
The supplies Captain Gilles needs were stored near Bitter Springs by the camp's former occupants.
- You must retrieve three Great Khan supply caches from three different caves.
- Full details of the caves can be found on the Great Khan supply cave page.
- Oscar Velasco is found in one of the caves, as part of the quest Climb Ev'ry Mountain.
- Returning two (PC) of the three caches to Gilles will complete this part of No, Not Much.
- One of the caches is irradiated. When handing it over you can use a Science skill of 25 to suggest a way to decontaminate it (Karma gain), or lie about its safety (Karma loss). If you fail the science skill check, she will not accept the supplies.
- Note: Lying about the safety to Gilles without decontaminating them will automatically end the quest, no matter what other objectives might remain.
Requesting reinforcements[edit | edit source]
Getting additional troops assigned to Bitter Springs will require you to travel to three NCR camps in the Mojave; Camp Golf, Camp McCarran, and Camp Forlorn Hope. These camps each have their own problems, and you may have to give them assistance before they can agree to your requests for support.
- Note that you can visit the camps in any order.
- If your NCR reputation is high enough (liked or idolized) you can simply speak to the officer or NCO at each camp in order to secure the reinforcements.
- At Camp Golf, speak to Sergeant McCredie. He can normally be found in the command tent in the camp grounds below the main building.
- If your NCR reputation is low, McCredie will be reluctant to send out his troops as they are considered "wash-outs" unfit for regular service.
- To continue you must complete the quest Flags of Our Foul-Ups, which is begun by talking to McCredie about the misfits under his command.
- Once Flags of Our Foul-Ups is completed, talking to McCredie about Bitter Springs again will convince him to provide support.
- At Camp McCarran, speak with Captain Curtis on the ground floor of the building or, if Curtis is dead, talk to Colonel Hsu in his office, also on the ground floor.
- At Camp Forlorn Hope, speak to Major Polatli. He is usually found in the command center in the northeast of the camp.
- If your NCR reputation is low, completing Restoring Hope will improve the situation at the camp enough to enable Polatli to send support to Bitter Springs.
- Successfully requesting reinforcements from all three camps will complete this part of No, Not Much.
Return to Captain Gilles[edit | edit source]
- Once you have secured the necessary supplies and reinforcements, reporting back to Gilles at Bitter Springs will complete the quest.
- Your reward varies depending on your response to Gilles' thanks, being one of the following:
Quest stages[edit | edit source]
Notes[edit | edit source]
- Once the quest is completed the NCR flag will return right-side up, instead of upside down, now that Bitter Springs is no longer in distress.
- Oscar Velasco holds a key to the supply caches in the caves, which you can obtain with a Speech check of 50, or loot from his corpse.
- Speaking to Velasco before speaking to Gilles also allows you to report to her that you know who the sniper is when she initially gives you the Climb Ev'ry Mountain quest, though she states she can not send anyone with you to the cave.
- Giving the irradiated supplies by means of a lie fails the quest, but grants 300 XP despite this (the same as completing it), Gilles offers no reward and the supply/command tent of the camp becomes irradiated. Beyond this it seems to have no long-term effect on the camp.
- Sometimes a gecko can spawn in the middle of Bitter Springs and kill Gilles, causing you to fail the quest. There is no way around it other than killing it quickly
Behind the scenes[edit | edit source]
- "No, Not Much" is a popular song published in 1955, and written by Robert Allen and Al Stillman. The Four Lads recorded and released it in 1956.
Bugs[edit | edit source]
- PC If you get the troops sent to the camp, Captain Gilles does not acknowledge that you have succeeded, but it does close out that section of the quest. [verified]
- PC Xbox 360 James Hsu will never accept sending reinforcements even if you do all of the quests given by him. [verified]
- Playstation 3 If you found the supply stashes "before" you talk to Captain Gilles to activate the quest, even though she will take the stashes, it will still say that you need to find them, thus never be able to turn the quest in. [verified]
- Playstation 3 Captain Gilles can disappear randomly, and you won't be able to finish the quest in that case. [verified]
- PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 Possible bug resulting in the quest becoming impossible to complete. Prior to visiting Bitter Springs, if you gather all three supply caches and present them to Captain Gilles, the objective to locate supplies for Bitter Springs does not become completed. [verified]
- PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 Possible bug regarding reinforcements from Camp McCarran. If you complete the quest for Hsu and allow the monorail to blow up, he will refuse to send reinforcements to Bitter Springs. [verified]
- NOTE: Give the game some time, complete another quest or two if having this issue and then come back to the quest. Do EVERYTHING for this quest before you try and get reinforcements from Camp McCarran. When all other objectives are complete return to McCarran and you will receive the help you need. Then return to Bitter Springs to turn in the quest.
- NOTE: If you are liked (not just accepted) by the NCR, Colonel Hsu will appreciate your help, and send troops.
- NOTE: Try changing your armor, for example, wearing NCR Ranger combat armor will cause your NCR status to be Neutral, simply change to un-affiliated armor and if you have done a sufficient amount of NCR quests you will be Liked, and then speak with him again.
- NOTE: (This just occurred in my game) - Get your reputation with the NCR to be Idolized, then Colonel Hsu will be happy to oblige to whatever the player's requests may be for the situation.
- Xbox 360 Can not complete as had done "Flags of Our Foul-Ups" until you change into an NCR face wrap, then sergeant would open dialogue with the player. [verified]
- PC Captain Gilles can disappear for absolutely no reason between handing in each part of the mission, making it literally impossible to complete the quest. It is recommended that you save often in multiple slots while doing this quest, in case she vanishes. You can fix this by using the console command prid 00133044 and then moveto player - this will move Gilles to your position allowing you to finish the quest. [verified]
- Alternately using the console Id for Captain Gilles and typing "0133044 enable" will bring the captain back on screen and allow you to finish the mission as well.
- PC Xbox 360 When helping Dr. Richards with his patients, attempting to diagnose the patients by pressing (A) on them, did nothing at all. (This is caused by activating the "We Are Legion" quest, using console commands to reset it will fix this bug). [verified]