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Enough! How dare you compare Caesar's finest to this tribe of savages? The mightiest Great Khan is scarcely a match for a Legion recruit!

Karl is a frumentarius for Caesar's Legion quartering in Red Rock Canyon in 2281.


Karl is one of the Legion's frumentarii, whose duty is to scout the wastes and make contact with tribes that may be able to help further Caesar's cause.[1] He is currently stationed at Red Rock Canyon working as an ambassador of the Legion to the Great Khans, describing his role as "a token of our alliance."[2] While he professes to respect the Great Khans as fellow warriors, the reality is quite different, as his journal shows. Located in a footlocker in his room at the Great Khan longhouse, the journal reveals that Karl, in his time as a guest of the Great Khans, has developed considerable contempt for them and views them as nothing more than barbarous savages. He deliberately hides the fact that the Legion forbids women from being anything more than servants and slaves, even telling a female Khan that she will be able to serve in Caesar's army as an explorer.

Interactions with the player character

Interactions overview

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This character is involved in quests.


  • Oh My Papa: Papa Khan needs some adamant proof to discredit Karl and be able to sever the alliance between the Great Khans and Caesar's Legion.

Effects of player's actions

  • If the Courier works to break the alliance between Caesar's Legion and the Great Khans, Karl must be disgraced in the eyes of the Khans, most importantly Papa Khan. He can be verbally taunted, tricking him into angrily blurting out a grave insult to the Khans in front of the longhouse. Alternatively, Karl's journal can be stolen from his room and shown to Papa Khan, who looks at it in disbelief before exploding into anger. Either way, the Khans attack Karl and kill him at Papa Khan's command.
  • If the Courier aims to preserve the alliance between the Legion and the Khans, on the other hand, Karl survives and completes his mission as Caesar's ambassador to the Great Khans.


Apparel Weapon Other items On death
Merc adventurer outfit Machete


  • If the Courier kills Karl, the Khans will not become hostile. They will, however, receive infamy with Caesar's Legion. It does not seem possible to discredit him with either Regis or Papa Khan if one does so.
  • Interestingly, Karl pronounces the word Caesar with a hard C sound sometimes when approached (Kai-sar) but pronounces it with a soft C (Seize-er) in most of his text. This is most likely an error of taking a generic Legion text file and applying it to a unique non-player character of the same voice actor. His English pronunciation of the word is more like everybody else who is not affiliated with the Legion, despite being a member of it. The same error can be heard in the dialogue file of the Legionary guarding the weather monitoring station at Fortification Hill, who is voiced by the same actor.
  • Karl also seems to have an honorable view of the Burned Man while most members of the Legion despise him, as he mentions the Burned Man in dialogue. [3]
  • If the Courier has a positive reputation with the Legion, Karl will remark on this and recognize the Courier upon first interaction. [4]
    • Likewise, even if the player character is vilified with the Legion, he will not be hostile on sight but still say that the Courier is perilously close to making an enemy of Caesar, even if Caesar is dead. [5]
    • If the Courier kills Caesar, Karl will be angry with them upon interacting with him, saying that he would avenge Caesar if they were not on Great Khan soil. [6] In some cases, he may attack on sight, but the Great Khans will not intervene for the Courier or Karl.
  • Karl will remain at Red Rock Canyon even if the Courier has already killed all the Great Khan inhabitants.
  • Halfway through the quest Oh My Papa, Legionary assassins will attack the Courier saying that "Karl sends his regards". If they are defeated, Karl himself will appear a few days later and attack the player character after initiating dialogue.
  • If Karl is killed, his footlocker in his room (inside the longhouse) can be looted freely with no loss of Karma.
  • Even though alcohol is supposedly forbidden in the Legion, Karl has a bottle of wine near his plate.
  • If Karl somehow survives after being attacked by the Great Khans (if the player attacks the Great Khans trying to kill Karl), he will attempt to run all the way to Cottonwood Cove, then disappears from the game.
  • If Karl is disgraced in front of Papa Khan during Oh My Papa, the Great Khans will attack him, and most likely kill him.

Notable quotes


Karl appears only in Fallout: New Vegas.


  1. The Courier: "What's your role in Caesar's Legion?"
    Karl: "I am one of the frumentarii: it is my duty to scout the Wastes in Caesar's name and make contact with any tribes that might serve a useful purpose.You might say I'm somewhere between a scout and an ambassador. I'm assigned here as part of the alliance between the Legion and the Great Khans."
    (Karl's dialogue)
  2. The Courier: "Who are you?"
    Karl: "My name is Karl. Glorious Caesar has sent me as an emissary to the Great Khans as a token of our alliance."
    (Karl's dialogue)
  3. The Courier: "Because you know they'd come up lacking?"
    Karl: "[SUCCEEDED] Enough! How dare you compare Caesar's finest to this tribe of savages? The mightiest Great Khan is scarcely a match for a Legion recruit! The Burned Man would leave their mightiest shitting themselves in terror! I would... Uhhh, that is...."
    (Karl's dialogue)
  4. Karl: "You're the one making a name for yourself among the troops, aren't you? What is it you need?"
    (Karl's dialogue)
  5. Karl: "I've been warned about you. You are perilously close to making an enemy of Caesar, and that is not wise."
    (Karl's dialogue)
  6. Karl: "If we weren't in Khan territory I would kill you where you stand. Caesar will be avenged!"
    (Karl's dialogue)