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==Bugs==
 
==Bugs==
 
* {{Platforms|pc}} If you are unable to initiate the quest because you did the majority of the history point items without Boone as a companion, you can manually add points.
 
* {{Platforms|pc}} If you are unable to initiate the quest because you did the majority of the history point items without Boone as a companion, you can manually add points.
** Use the console command {{console|set "96BCD".nOpenness to 5}} and speak with him. Initially he will decline your suggestion to go to Bitter Springs. Shortly after, however, if he can catch up with you (e.g., if you enter or exit an interior cell), he will initiate conversation and ask to go there.
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** Use the console command {{console|set "96BCD".nOpenness to 5}} and speak with him. Initially he will decline your suggestion to go to Bitter Springs. Re-initiate conversation with him (or wait a while and let him catch up with you to talk talk with you) and he will say he has changed his mind.
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*** The conversation option to go to Bitter Springs will not be present if he is at or near Bitter Springs. Move away or into an interior cell.
*** The console command works even though Boone's reference ID is 96BCE.
 
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*** Boone's RefID is 96BCE. 96BCD is the script that contains the nOpenness variable.
 
** Note that Boone has additional dialogue about Manny and his wife at nOpenness 2 and 3, so if you are manually accelerating the quest this way, you might want to set points at those levels and talk with him before increasing points to 5.
 
** Note that Boone has additional dialogue about Manny and his wife at nOpenness 2 and 3, so if you are manually accelerating the quest this way, you might want to set points at those levels and talk with him before increasing points to 5.
 
* {{Platforms|ps3|xbox360}} Despite the Legion being stated as Prime Legionaries they wear [[Recruit Helmet]]s instead of [[Prime Helmet]]s.
 
* {{Platforms|ps3|xbox360}} Despite the Legion being stated as Prime Legionaries they wear [[Recruit Helmet]]s instead of [[Prime Helmet]]s.

Revision as of 09:11, 9 August 2012

 
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I Forgot to Remember to Forget is a companion quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

Quick walkthrough

Gain Boone's trust, visit the place of the Bitter Springs massacre, defeat the Legion attackers, then talk to Boone about how to accept his past.

Activating the quest

In order to access the necessary dialogue options, the player must have spoken to Manny Vargas in Novac or Bitter-Root in Camp McCarran about his tour of duty in the NCR and Bitter Springs. In order to trigger the quest, the player must accumulate 5 "history" points with Boone. These can only be earned while Boone is in your party.

  • Killing Vulpes Inculta: +1
    • Vulpes appears at multiple points, leaving several opportunities to kill him. He first appears in Nipton. If spared, he'll appear on The Strip to give you the Mark of Caesar (If you kill Vulpes when he approaches you at the strip, Securitron guards will not become hostile, nor will anyone else, making this the easiest time to kill him). Finally, he'll appear at the Fort by Caesar's side.
  • Camp McCarran
    • When interrogating the captured Legion POW Silus at Camp McCarran, if he dies: +1.
      • Note that this history point is earned for Silus's death at any point, not just during torture. The ideal way of earning it is by making the Speech checks to have Silus discuss the information leaks, talking to Boyd to get the rewards, then re-entering the interrogation room with a weapon and killing Silus with a sneak attack.
    • During the mission 'I Put a Spell on You' at Camp McCarran
      • If you confront and kill the spy in act: +1.
      • If you disarm the monorail bomb: +1.
  • The Fort
    • Killing Caesar at The Fort: +2.
  • Legion Raid Camp
    • During the side quest Booted at Legion Raid Camp, rescuing the hostage Powder Gangers: +2
  • Nelson
    • During the side quest Back in Your Own Backyard in Nelson
      • If you kill the hostages: +1.
      • If you save them: +2.
      • Note: You can also save all 3 hostages, then after Boone comments about saving them, talk to him and run through the dialogue. You can then kill one of the hostages to gain a bonus point on top of the +2 from saving them, with no negative Karma and no hostility from the other troops.
  • Camp Searchlight / Cottonwood Cove
    • Eradicate the Legion: +2. While the eradication can be done at any time, for it to count towards Boone's history points it has to be done while doing Eye for an Eye and the current displayed objective is "Kill all Legionaries in Cottonwood Cove."

The +2 History Points will provide some dialogue in which the player can respond to which will affect Boone's opinion of you when you begin the actual quest. The following dialogue are:

  • When talking to Boone about Caesar's death, he will tell you that Caesar has an entire line of succession and this will barely slow the Legion down. Regardless he is happy with the death of their leader.
  • If you rescue the Powder Gangers during the Quest Booted, Boone will tell you about the situation. If they get across the Colorado, it will be too late to save them and the NCR should be patrolling for Legion raiders rather than holding Hoover Dam.
  • After you killed or rescued the hostages at Nelson, he will tell you about what the NCR had to do to crucified or captured NCR soldiers as the Legion would use gruesome torture tactics to demoralize the other side. To save them the pain of torture, NCR snipers have to perform mercy killing. If you saved them, Boone will be glad they saw another option.
  • After eradicating the Legion at Cottonwood Cove, Boone would be rather pleased to know the camp where his wife and unborn child was being sold and put out of her misery was wiped out and wish that something like this would happen more often.

Detailed walkthrough

In order for Boone to initiate dialogue about Bitter Springs, the player must have both gained Boone's loyalty and talked to either Manny Vargas in Novac or Bitter-Root at Camp McCarran (after a speech check of 30) about the Bitter Springs massacre. When this happens, the player can suggest going to Bitter Springs. Boone will initially refuse, but later request that the player travel there.

Once you get to Bitter Springs, he asks you to go to Coyote Tail Ridge, where he was stationed, and tells you exactly what happened during the massacre there. He then asks you if you don't mind staying overnight. If you say yes, the screen will fade out and fade back in, with Boone telling you that a Legion raiding party is on the way. It largely consists of recruits, but they can be tough to defeat, especially if you're trying to avoid casualties. Some tougher units will be mingled with the later waves.

The attacking Legion forces come in three waves. The first two waves come toward Bitter Springs up the sloping hill. The third wave comes through a small gap in the side (where the graveyard is located). Two waves of dogs will be dispatched prior to the second and third waves. The quest is considered complete once all three waves are dead. Boone will talk to you again, and at the end of the conversation his armor is upgraded depending on your last answer. Although both armors are only cosmetically different, this choice actually influences Boone's ending.

Journal entries

StageStatusDescription
1 Travel to Bitter Springs with Boone.
2 Go with Boone to Coyote Tail Ridge.
3 Talk to Boone about staying overnight at Coyote Tail Ridge.
4 Talk to Boone.
5 Go to Bitter Springs refugee camp and repel the Legion raid.
6Quest finishedTalk to Boone.

Notes

  • The name of this quest is a reference to the song by Elvis Presley of the same name.
  • It is possible for either Lieutenant Markland or Captain Gilles to die during the quest, particularly if you are not quick in intercepting the Legion raiders. This will fail their quests: No, Not Much, Bitter Springs Infirmary Blues and Climb Ev'ry Mountain. The presence of refugees and NCR soldiers also makes friendly fire a problem, especially with explosive weapons.
  • After completion of the quest, Mr. New Vegas will report the incident on Radio New Vegas. He mentions that two civilians repelled an entire Legion raiding force, and in an interview, a civilian witness said that "God sent us two angels, and at least one of them had a .308 caliber flaming sword of justice with a telescopic sight". He will say this even if Boone doesn't use his rifle during the quest.
  • If you kill Boone, Mr. New Vegas will mention that he was attacked by a Legion raiding party.

Bugs

  • PCPC If you are unable to initiate the quest because you did the majority of the history point items without Boone as a companion, you can manually add points.
    • Use the console command set "96BCD".nOpenness to 5 and speak with him. Initially he will decline your suggestion to go to Bitter Springs. Re-initiate conversation with him (or wait a while and let him catch up with you to talk talk with you) and he will say he has changed his mind.
      • The conversation option to go to Bitter Springs will not be present if he is at or near Bitter Springs. Move away or into an interior cell.
      • Boone's RefID is 96BCE. 96BCD is the script that contains the nOpenness variable.
    • Note that Boone has additional dialogue about Manny and his wife at nOpenness 2 and 3, so if you are manually accelerating the quest this way, you might want to set points at those levels and talk with him before increasing points to 5.
  • Playstation 3Playstation 3Playstation 3 Despite the Legion being stated as Prime Legionaries they wear Recruit Helmets instead of Prime Helmets.
  • PCPC After beginning this quest and traveling to Bitter Springs, Boone will sometimes not initiate the conversation necessary to continue the quest and will have only his default dialogue when spoken to.
    • To be able to continue the quest, open the console and enter the command setstage 001349A7 20 This will skip the part of the quest that's glitched, and allow you to begin the "Go with Boone to Coyote Tail Ridge" section of the quest.
  • PCPC The game will crash if you kill Vulpes Inculta before completing Boone's "I Forgot To Remember To Forget" quest in which Vulpes is set to spawn. The game still crashes even with Vulpes alive. Using the console, type setstage 001349A7 40 to skip the stay at Coyote Tail Ridge.
  • PCPC With the 1.4.0.525 patch, disarming the monorail bomb no longer gives a history point if you kill Curtis, regardless of which method is used to disarm it or if it was disarmed before killing Curtis. The point will only be granted upon completion of the quest if Curtis isn't dead, at which point killing Curtis is no longer an option.
  • Playstation 3Playstation 3Playstation 3 Sometimes, if Boone approaches you saying that he's ready to go to Bitter Springs, but you don't immediately accept, he may become stationary and will not move again until you talk to him and tell him that you want to go to Bitter Springs.
  • PCPC If Boone is still looking for enemies even after you have defeated all of the Legion, Boone might say "Let's get through this first," when he was supposed to say the scripted line.
  • Playstation 3Playstation 3Playstation 3 Both points you get during I Put A Spell On You may not count; whichever you do first (save the monorail or kill the spy) will count as one history point, but upon completing the other task the other history point will not register.
  • Playstation 3Playstation 3Playstation 3 After completing this quest, members of the Great Khans may randomly appear near your character when waiting or sleeping. The wait or sleep period will end prematurely and the screen will zoom in as if initiating dialogue (even if no one is in front of your character), but will quickly zoom back out. If you look around, there will be a Great Khan (with whom you cannot speak) standing near your character doing nothing. This may occur numerous times.
  • Playstation 3Playstation 3Playstation 3 The players game will grind to a halt and lock up during the 3rd waves attack. The players variations on approach to engagement, weaponry, tactics, prior saves, rebooting, are all ineffective. If the player disconnects from the network (offline), the scenario will slow but not lock up. One suggested method includes leaving Boone in the Graveyard (wait here) and covering the main entrance to BS as far away from the town as possible. Crawling will occur, but using fast travel in between waves around the local area also helps.
  • Xbox 360Xbox 360 If you ambush Caesar at The Fort and kill Vulpes Inculta he will disappear after the kill shot preventing the player from looting the body.
Main quests
Act 1Ain't That a Kick in the Head · Back in the Saddle · By a Campfire on the Trail · They Went That-a-Way · Ring-a-Ding-Ding!
Act 2Wild Card (Wild Card: Ace in the Hole, Change in Management, You and What Army?, Side Bets, Finishing Touches) · The House Always Wins (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII) · Render Unto Caesar · Et Tumor, Brute? · Things That Go Boom · Kings' Gambit · For the Republic, Part 2 · You'll Know It When It Happens/Arizona Killer
Act 3No Gods, No Masters · All or Nothing · Veni, Vidi, Vici · Eureka!
Side quests
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Caesar's LegionBeware the Wrath of Caesar! · Caesar's Favor · Caesar's Foe · Caesar's Hire · Cold, Cold Heart · I Hear You Knocking · The Finger of Suspicion · We Are Legion
The StripBeyond the Beef · Bye Bye Love · Classic Inspiration · How Little We Know · Pheeble Will · Talent Pool · The House Has Gone Bust! · The Moon Comes Over the Tower
Freeside & Outer VegasBirds of a Feather · Bleed Me Dry · Debt Collector · G.I. Blues · High Times · Someone to Watch Over Me · The Coyotes · Wang Dang Atomic Tango
BoomersAnt Misbehavin' · Sunshine Boogie · Volare! · Young Hearts
Great KhansAba Daba Honeymoon · Cry Me a River · Don't Make a Beggar of Me · Oh My Papa
Powder GangBooted · I Fought the Law · Run Goodsprings Run · Why Can't We Be Friends?
Brotherhood of SteelEyesight to the Blind · Still in the Dark · Tend to Your Business
OtherCome Fly With Me · Crazy, Crazy, Crazy · Ghost Town Gunfight · Guess Who I Saw Today · Left My Heart · My Kind of Town · The Legend of the Star and A Valuable Lesson · Unfriendly Persuasion · Wheel of Fortune
Companion questsED-E My Love · For Auld Lang Syne · Heartache by the Number · I Could Make You Care · I Forgot to Remember to Forget · Nothin' But a Hound Dog · One for My Baby
Unmarked questsA Bit of Slap and Tickle · A Final Plan for Esteban · Access Powers · All Fired Up! · An Ear to the Ground · Andy and Charlie · Arachnophobia · Arizona Scavenger · Barton the Fink · Bear Necessities · Big Winner (Atomic Wrangler, The Gomorrah, The Tops, Ultra-Luxe, Vikki & Vance) · Bounty Killer (I, II) · Brotherhood Bond (I, II) · Caching in at the Cove · Cajoling a Cudgel · Claws Mended · Claws Out · Dealing with Contreras · Defacing the Humble Stone · Democracy Inaction · Don't Poke at the Bear! · Eddie's Emissary · Exhumin' Nature · Fight Night · Flogging a Dead Corpse · Friend of the Followers · Gland for Some Home Cooking · Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger · Hat's Entertainment · Help for Halford · Hidden Valley computer virus · Highway to the Danger Zone (I, II) · Honorary Rocketeer · I Love Bananas · Iron and Stealing · Keith's Caravan Charade · Laurifer Gladiator · Lenk's Bad Debts · Lily and Leo · Long-Term Care · Malleable Mini Boomer Minds · Maud's Muggers · Meeting an Equal · Missing a Few Missiles · Most Wanted · Not Worth a Hill of Corn and Beans · Old School Ghoul · A Pair of Dead Desperados (I, II) · Papers, Please · Pistol Packing · Playing on the Old Joana · Powder to the People · Power to the People · Razzle Dazzle! · Reach for the Sky, Mister! · Rest and Resupply · Ringo's Caravan Rules · Rotface's Loose Lips · Saving (or Savaging) Sergeant Teddy · The Screams of Brahmin · Silus Treatment · Short-Term Treatment · Smooth-Talking Criminal · The Star Showdown · Strategic Nuclear Moose · Straus Calls · Strip Search · Suits You, Sarah · Tags of Our Fallen · A Team of Moronic Mercenaries · Thought for the Day · Tourist Traipse · Trudy's Radio Repair · A Trusted Aide · Useless Baubles or Fancy Trinkets? · We Must Stop Beating Like This · We Must Stop Meeting Like This · Wind-Brahmin Wrangler · You Gotta Break Out a Few Eggs · You Make Me Feel Like a Woman
Add-on quests
Dead MoneySierra Madre Grand Opening! · Find Collars (8: "Dog", 12: Christine, 14: Dean Domino) · Fires in the Sky · Strike Up the Band · Mixed Signals · Trigger the Gala Event · Put the Beast Down · Last Luxuries · Curtain Call at the Tampico · Heist of the Centuries · Big Winner, Sierra Madre
Honest HeartsA Family Affair · Arrival at Zion · Bighorners of the Eastern Virgin · Chaos in Zion · Civilized Man's Burden · Crush the White Legs · Deliverer of Sorrows  · Departing Paradise · Flight from Zion · Gathering Storms · Gone Fishin' · Happy Trails Expedition · Prisoners of War · Retake the Bridge · River Monsters · Rite of Passage · Roadside Attraction · Sanctity of the Dead · The Advance Scouts  · The Treacherous Road · The Grand Staircase · Tourist Trap
Old World BluesAll My Friends Have Off Switches · A Brain's Best Friend · Coming Out of Her Shell · Field Research · He Came... And Went · Influencing People · Midnight Science Fiction Feature! · Old World Blues · On the Same Wavelength · Picking Your Brains · Project X-13 · Sonic Emitter Upgrade · Welcome to the Big Empty · What's in a Name? · When Visitors Attack! · X-2: Strange Transmissions! · X-8 Data Retrieval Test · X-8: High School Horror! · X-13: Attack of the Infiltrator!
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