Forum:Vote: Extending the right to hand out Patroller rights to all Administrators

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Synopsis

For those of you not around for the prior discussion forum, I am here today looking to introduce a small quality of life change to the wiki and how we handle Patroller rights. Historically, Patroller rights have always been handed out exclusively by the Bureaucrats whenever they deem a user responsible enough to handle the tools, yet I and others are of the opinion that all Administrators should be able to do so as well.

Is this really all that important? Not really, but there have been times where it's been difficult to bring users into the Patroller ranks, as half of our current Bureaucrats are largely inactive, and with /d and Discord becoming a much larger influence on the wiki and interpersonal connections, there have been times when even the active Bureaucrats have had difficulty determining whether to hand out the rights or not.

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!!! --Important-- !!!

In the case that this vote passes, I would like to clarify on the stipulations attached to the proposed changes:

• Due to some feedback that I received from the discussion forum linked above, I will also use this chance to specify that this right will only be extended to Administrators that are consistently active within the community.
• As with any Administrator action, granting a user Patroller rights can be reverted/vetoed should the community decide against it. Please exercise this right responsibly.
• A second Administrator/Bureaucrat must be willing to back you when granting Patroller rights. Both Administrators must make their support clear in the appropriate public setting.

Vote

Poll finished on 4:37 am April 16, 2021 (UTC).

• A consensus must be reached by voting before any action is taken.
• You can vote by placing one of the following lines in the appropriate section:
  • Use # {{yes}} ~~~~ if you support the proposal.
  • Use # {{no}} ~~~~ if you are against the proposal.
  • Use # {{neutral}} ~~~~ if you wish to abstain.
• Please do not edit other user's votes.

Yes

Vote yes if you support all Administrators having the privilege to grant Patroller rights.

1. intrepid3594/19/24 [4:35am]
2. -Eckserah ^{Head Dataminer} 03:43, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
3. Imagine if I voted no on my own forum. ^寧靜 03:45, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
4. This is going to be so very good for our community, bringing up enthusiastic talent and breathing new life into our beloved nukapedia! -kdarrow ^{take her for a spin!} 04:07, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
5. Slipmcripfist (talk) 04:09, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
6. I've seen no convincing arguments against it, so sure, why not. --DirtyBlue929 (talk) 04:24, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
7. New California Ahoy ^{"Who are you, that do not know their history?"} 04:31, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
8. Aiden4017 (talk) 04:40, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
9. Jinau (talk) 04:44, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
10. Arc (talk) 04:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
11. |\| () |\/| /\ |) | Talk | Discord | NMC 04:53, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
12. Geomodelrailroader (talk 05:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
13. Kendallb9000 (talk) 06:23, April 10, 2021 (UTC)
14. Scribe-Howard (waster_93) (talk) 07:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
15. The Appalachian (talk) 07:30, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
16. User:Freedomrocks08 09:24, April 10, 2021 (UTC)
17. User:XxDerpyPeanut5xX 11:05, April 10, 2021 (UTC)
18. User:Iantheboi 12:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
19. AllYourFavorites (talk) 15:45, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
20. Reasonable approach, so yes. --Findabair^{The benefit of the doubt is often doubtful.} 15:51, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
21. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FalloutofStarWars2077 (talk • contribs) 20:50, April 10, 2021. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
22. Devastating Dave^{ZIP ZAP RAP} 20:01, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

No

Vote no if you believe Bureaucrats exclusively should have the privilege to grant Patroller rights.

Neutral

1. I'm on the fence of this. The right to remove rights should also be given to appointing administrators, as this will turn this into a popularity contest and make it difficult, if not impossible, to deal with patrollers stepping out of line. Тагазиэль 10:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments

I don’t see where the third stipulation was discussed. Great Mara (talk) 13:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Also, to clarify: The administrators backing a patroller request can lose their rights also through administrative decision, right? Тагазиэль 14:25, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Could you elaborate on this a bit? AllYourFavorites (talk) 16:01, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I was about to say, because the way you've phrased this sounds like you want the right to unilaterally demote or even ban any admin or admins who appoint a patroller who for whatever reason loses their rights through administrative action, which is... questionable, IMO. --DirtyBlue929 (talk) 16:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking about; are you asking about the second stipulation, or are you asking about our current administration policies? ^寧靜 00:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)