Forum:Video Re-Negotiation thread

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It is clear from the community vote on the negotiated settlement with Wikia/Fandom that the community is not satisfied with what is offered.

As such, I would like to now ask the community where our red line is, and if the community is happy for me to continue in this role.

As we seem to be getting a great and speedy response, I only anticipate this being open for 72 hours. If no single option has overwhelming support on its own, where an option includes another option votes will be read as being inclusive in there.

There is no section that discusses Autoplay. As much as this bothers me too, realistically I don't think this is a battle we'd stand a chance of winning. Content related outcomes only require Wikia/Fandom not to do something (ie - to not post video), changing the autoplay rules would require them to make a technical change that would apply on all wikis. Agent c (talk) 16:03, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Known Videos

• Ballistic weave
• Cait
• Curie
• Fallout 4 weapons
• Fallout 4 console commands
• Fallout: New Vegas weapons
• Piper

Question 1 - where is our red line

Poll finished on 4:03 pm September 13, 2017 (UTC).

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No Compromise - The video must be removed

1. NomadMC (talk) 16:11, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
2. Yodamort (talk) 16:05, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
3. Glauber0 ^Howdy! 16:24, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
4. 123123abcabc (talk) 16:30, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
5. Like I said before, the article space has always been sovereign to the content the community decides it's proper. Wikia has the sidebars and the siderail to advertise on, it has no business shoving videos on the main header too. The article space should be filled with curated encyclopedic information, not filled to the brim with adverts like car race suit. That it's on autoplay and obnoxiously follows you around as you scroll down is just adding insult to injury.
   Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 16:32, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
6. Shaka1277 (talk) 16:35, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
7. AllYourFavorites (talk) 16:40, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
8. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alarex247 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

In addition to the previous option, Community self-made video is acceptable

1. If the video is really a necessity, it has to be done by the community, and picked by the community. Some of the videos we have currently sometimes feel just like promoting a user's Youtube channel, among other things. ☢ Energy X ☣ 16:41, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Inclusive with the previous option, Wikia/Fandom made video is acceptable but only with final approval resting with the community, or an appointed community member

1. Preston Freaking Garvey (talk)

Question 2 - Motion of confidence in the negotiator

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Yes, Agent c should continue to be the community’s point person for any negotiation

1. NomadMC (talk) 16:11, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
2. Yodamort (talk) 16:05, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
3. Glauber0 ^Howdy! 13:19, September 10, 2017 (BRT)
4. User:the wandering mercenary
5. 
   Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 16:34, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
6. Shaka1277 (talk) 16:35, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
7. AllYourFavorites (talk) 16:40, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
8. ☢ Energy X ☣ 16:41, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
9. 123123abcabc (talk) 16:43, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
10. ^Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 16:47, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

No, another member of the leadership team should take this role (please nominate in your comment

1. Preston Freaking Garvey (talk) You've been acting with too much emotion. Someone with a cooler head needs to take charge.

Question 3 - ending cooperation with Fandom

Hi, it's NomadMC here. In addition to C’s questions, I think we should also stop cooperating with Fandom until this is over. At the moment we share links to other wikis, and sometimes they ask us to participate in trials or test features. I know it's probably unfair to demand people do things like quit community council, but those that are members might want to consider it until this is over at least.

Yes

1. They won't cooperate with us, we don't cooperate with them. Yodamort (talk) 16:13, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
2. Glauber0 ^Howdy! 16:16, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
3. 
   Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 16:34, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
4. Shaka1277 (talk) 16:35, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
5. ^Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 16:46, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

No

1. Preston Freaking Garvey (talk) "Fighting fire with Fire" just ends up creating more fire.
2. Not at this stage. I don't believe we should stoop to their level unless something REALLY appalling comes from Fandom. AllYourFavorites (talk) 16:40, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
3. Not big enough to justify that in my opinion. 123123abcabc (talk) 16:44, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

How are other sites doing with these videos? Have they also started these discussions, or something else? ☢ Energy X ☣ 16:41, September 10, 2017 (UTC)