Forum:Reconfirmation request: Cartman!

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I put this up, in light of recent events, to ask the community if Cartman should keep his adminship. He is being accused of conduct unbecoming of an administrator and flamebaiting.

I have set up this forum to, as I mentioned earlier, ask what this community wants.

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Does Cartman keep any his adminship responsibilities? Yes or no?

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Note that as of a decree by Kingclyde, all votes must be properly supported by an, at least brief, explanation as to why said vote was cast. All votes lacking said motivation will be counted as null.

Poll finished on 9:55 pm April 6, 2012 (UTC).

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• Inexcusable behavior from someone in a leadership position. The Gunny 00:14, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

• See my comment.TheNemesisx 00:57, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

• I have not been around for the past two days and on top of that I haven't come across any questionable posts by Cartman! So I am casting this vote as a way to formally abstain if we're going off a headcount of regulars here. ^Message 01:42, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

• I don't really see what he's done wrong. Go look at his admin request; how have any of those qualifications changed? BILLYOCEAN ^{Wanna talk?} 01:57, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
• Why we are suprised at Cartman for being cartman is beyond me. He does his job as an admin effectively and while his personality may be disagreeable to some, it doesn't impact his effectiveness as an admin. Additionally we've definitely kept on more disagreeable admins than Cartman. Richie9999 02:18, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

• While I believe Cartman should mind the way he treats others in general, as far as the subject at hand goes (ie the thread and his discussion with YM) I see nothing to hold against him. If anything I'd have to commend him for keeping it level-headed and taking genuine efforts to explain his position. Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪}

• I have not seen very much questionable material from him. Sure he may have come off as blunt, but wouldn't you if someone decided to throw some mud at you, and defended yourself from said mud slinging? I find him to be honest more than rude, and in the face of insults keeps his calm. His record isn't spotless, it's only been few minor incidents up until now. Though not perfect, he has done a damn fine job for this wiki so far. I'll stay like this for now, but unless honestly disproven, I'm leaning towards his rights to be kept. Pony of the East 02:21, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

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I'd again like to state a concern I did in the last thread. I don't think its appropriate for people to vote until the accused has had their say. This is a fundamental part of natural justice. Agent c 22:01, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

That's a good point! The Australian Kiwi 22:01, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

He logs in daily and has been notified by scar.--Kingclyde 22:10, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Cartman is currently out adventuring, and can therefore only log onto Skype using his phone. Expect his response some time next week. Hugs ^{"Say 'ello to my little friend!"}

Can we also think logically? When was the last time Cartman used his admin powers, and with the new admins in place, does he really need them? 00:20, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

He actually banned several users just this week. Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 00:35, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Over the year that i have been here ive seen Cartman be disrespectfull from time to time, many users and anons alike have gotten very upset with him, i remember one user ask him to be more respectfull towards others and Cartman pretty much threw it back in his face giveing him a "defention" of what it is, he may be a good editor but in the end of the day you still have to bahave accordingly to the rules, the comments ive seen him make towards people who seem to like Fallout 3 or jsut ask why do people hate it has been distastefull, im all for him wanting to debate why he doesnt like the game ect but do it within boundaries, i may have gotten sidetracked just then so lets sum things up here. A User, anon, admin or anybody else for that matter should always be respectfull towards others unless the other user is a complete and utter jerk/troll, and trust me when i say this, things like these would neve NEVER be tolerated on other wikias.TheNemesisx 00:59, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Looks like insults are fine as long as you keep level headed. Nice. 02:22, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

I see the situation as this. YM gives quote out of context. Cart tries to explain himself to Clyde's comment. Clyde responds rather strongly, Cart keeps a level-head and explains himself, provides evidence, seems reasonable, etc, should be over. YM calls Cart out rather strongly. Cart responds calmly. Though Cart uses sarcasm to express his point, I hardly call it an insult unless you are offended by Cart pointing out a few flaws in the system. YM gets increasingly agitated, Cart seems to continue the same way. YM snaps. Carts comments do seem to get a little more sarcastic towards the end, but only because YM is rather hostile at that point. End result, Cart merely had a strong debate and Yessie took it a little too personally. I respect YM as a person, but that is no way an admin should act. As for Cartman, perhaps the smart answers seemed too rude, but it was justified by YM's responses. If I missed anything, feel free to say so. Pony of the East 02:39, March 24, 2012 (UTC)