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While this hasn't ever been a prevalent issue, from time to time we will encounter users who will delete their own messages in bad faith, usually in order to remove context, forcing the moderation team to comb through our message logs in order to understand incidents fully (and this is assuming that they're even aware that messages were deleted and that the logs need to be gone through).

After a recent conflict in which one of our users ended up being kicked and ultimately banned due to message tampering, a temporary order was put into place, insisting against deleting messages entirely; this forum is to formalize and clean up that rule so as to better understand the spirit of it going forward. For further clarification, should the community decide against this rule clarification, both here and in the upcoming vote, the administrative decree that's currently in effect on our Discord will be nullified and removed. 寧靜 Fox 00:39, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Rule parameters:

  1. Personal messages can still be deleted/edited, so long as important context isn't removed that destabilizes a wider conversation/debate, or places other users in a potentially bad light. In all essentiality, regard this as an extension of Rule 5: Don't be a dick.
  2. Due to ambiguity, what constitutes important context will be left up to moderator/administrator discretion. If in doubt, please double-check with a moderator before proceeding.
  3. In most cases, this rule will never apply to any content that constitutes memes, personal information, or casual conversation. With that in mind, please remember not to abuse this right, as doing so excessively still counts as spamming/general disruption, even if it's done in good faith/fun. All things in moderation.
  4. Messages are not to be deleted, whatsoever, within the Vault-Tec Administration category, including, but not limited to the channels: overseers-desk, chatmod-desk, editing-staff, discussions-staff, security-desk, reddit-staff, individual-moderation, & check-user-queries.
  5. To expand upon the prior rule parameter, messages are not to be deleted from monthly meetings unless they are objectively off-topic. All relevant messages must be able to be presented at the end of each meeting during its transcribing for transparancy purposes.

Rule implementation

  1. In cases that are deemed objectively bad faith, typically a warning should be given out before proceeding to a kick, and then a ban, depending on the severity of the offense(s).
  2. Should a user delete their own messages in order to fabricate evidence/intent against another user or users, an immediate ban should be given out, extending to the wiki as well.
  3. In cases of good faith, deleting personal messages can still constitute spamming, whether intentional or not, which should follow standard procedure, starting with a warning, moving onto a kick, and ending with a ban.

Community feedback:

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