Forum:Bureaucrat Request - Kdarrow

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My name is Kdarrow or Kate, and I am writing to seek your support of my application for bureaucratic rights here at Nukapedia.

Requirements

I will meet the request requirements for bureaucratship including length of activity, leadership acumen, and current user rights. In addition, I am active, proficient, and invested in all three facets of our community - Editing, Discussions, and Discord.

Overview

Nukapedians already nurture an enthusiastic and positive culture while simultaneously putting forth significant effort, diligence, and creativity towards our content. I am running for bureaucrat because I want to serve in bridging the gaps currently existing between the multiple sections of our group.

It is important to see different perspectives, of those who are engaged only in wiki articles, or primarily posting in Discussions, those focused on datamining, both on or off of Discord, and beyond, into related communities that impact or influence our work here.

I aim to advocate for under-represented groups, address the concerns of and include ideas from all sides, all levels of experience, making sure to bring everyone to the table, to have everyone's voices heard. I complement the strengths of our current bureaucratic team, and in this capacity, can assist in opening up opportunities for collaboration and communication. Improving and leading in this capacity is what I strive to do as bureaucrat.

Leadership

My leadership style comes from a background in teaching and service. I focus on helping to develop each user's skills, building their confidence by providing positive reinforcement and approachable instruction. I want to also make sure we show support to long-time members and staff, to maintain their momentum as well. Leading through service, being mindful and gracious, are aspects of my leadership style that I will bring to the bureaucrat role.

In addition, I think it is important to lead by example in both my conduct and my editing. I am approachable, take ownership, and am open to ideas that are different than my own. I routinely seek the input of others, especially those with more experience than myself, gaining their thoughts and suggestions when navigating challenges or difficult decisions.

I will do so by serving as a present, engaged, enthusiastic leader that is active in recent changes, technically proficient, and supportive. I am motivated and above all else, dedicated to our content, to our readers, and to our contributors.

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Productivity

• Edit count 125,000 / Mainspace 75% / 19,500+ images / 3,000+ user talk
• Articles written or fully rehauled (1000+)
• Currently bureaucrat of four other Fandom wikis
• Overseer of the Vault Academy with 24 current mentees and 10 successful graduates

Awards

• Fandom Gaming Editor of the Year 2020
• Nukapedia NTV Editor of the Year 2020
• Fandom Gaming Editor of the Month November 2020

Fun facts

• Articles I am most proud of: Halloween, Appalachian monorail, State, Flora, Blast zone, Fallout 76 railways
• I live in the Mojave Desert in Sandy Valley - about 15 minutes away from Goodsprings.
• Came to the Fallout wiki while working on my FNV real life location project, couriersix.com

Accomplishments

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Contribution overview

Vault Academy Overseer since May 2021 (assistant to Old Man Leon, Sep 2020 - May 2021) Mentor of 24 current mentees Mentor of 10 successful graduates Designed and developed General Editing program Designed and developed Advanced Editing program Continued development of established Community and Leadership program Training programs Graduate of the Vault Academy general editing program (mentor Old Man Leon) Graduate of the Vault Academy technical editing program (mentors FDekker and Energy X) Community engagement Host and moderator of monthly Meeting of the Minds Served as Dataminer representative since September 2020 Active and engaged in Discord moderation/activities - trivia master! Promotion of or suggestion of 10 current/since promoted patrollers Facilitate chat mod training, endorsement, oversee mentee mods Leave every new user a talk page welcome message Founded Welcommittee and social media reorganization Built Community Welcome Hub Contributor in Discussions (700+ posts) Blog posts,Today in the Mojave Wasteland (170 posts) Frequent and consistent assistance provided in #editorial-ballpit Select forum initiatives led Forum:Affiliation vote - Fallout 76 datamining Discord server (co-led with Old Man Leon) Forum:Vote: Fallout 76 player character Forum:Discussion: Dataminer ambassador (co-led with Old Man Leon) Forum:Discussion: Adopting a vote based process for permanent bans Forum:Content policy and organizational review‎ Forum:Vote: Banning the use of warning templates (proponent stance) Technical proficiency and projects Project leader of Suggested Merge Central Active within Behind the scenes speculation removal project Founded Template Headquarters Created Template:Infobox consumable FO76 (with Gilpo1) Created Template:User Flamingo Created Template:Referenced rewrite needed Author of Patroller guide Author of Content Moderator guide Service across Fandom Active bureaucrat of Fallout: New California wiki Active bureaucrat of Fallout PnP wiki Active bureaucrat of Fallout: The Frontier wiki Active bureaucrat of Fallout Roleplaying wiki Participant in Community Connect and Roundtable Participant in Fandom Monthly and staff AMAs Feedback volunteer - UCX/FandomDesktop Feedback volunteer - Map project

Thank you!

Thank you so much for reading through my application. My time contributing to the Fallout wiki and supporting its community has brought me great joy and now I hope to take greater strides in helping it grow and thrive as bureaucrat, both in the near future and years to come.

Please consider casting your vote below! And as always, happy trails.

kdarrow ^{take her for a spin!} 13:50, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Poll

Poll finished on 1:45 pm July 26, 2021 (UTC).

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Vote

Yes

1. Easiest yes ever, the driving force behind modernization and a better wiki environment for everyone. Very proficient leadership skills and an overall great editor and person to have here. –Findabair^{The benefit of the doubt is often doubtful.} 14:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
2. While my experience with the wiki has largely been through using it as a resource, Kdarrow has been an excellent force behind cleaning up the wiki and bringing it up to modern standards as a living resource. User:DSJ20 14:44, July 19, 2021 (UTC)
3. There are very few people on the wiki, much less on wikia as a whole, who have the dedication and energy that Kate brings to the job. Emphatic and absolute yes. -bleep196- (talk) 14:47, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
4. I've been waiting for this all my life. intrepid3597/19/21 [9:52am]
5. In my mind, there is no person more fit for this position than Kate. She is helpful, easy to reach out to, and active both technical and social side. Having met Kate personally, I can attest to her kindness, patience, and creative ability. She has already made amazing improvements to the wiki and it's community and I am eager to see what else she has in store. —Katy Webb ^{A better future, underground!} 15:08, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
6. Look, ever since I've known Kate the wiki has been her major focus. She is constantly striving to improve the accuracy as well as overall completeness of the wiki and has been doing so exceptionally well. I don't know of ANYONE you would be a better fit for this position or deserves it more than Kate. To vote no would be a great disservice to this community and I would have to reconsider my own mental well-being if I did so. My vote is yes, yes, one thousand times yes. Thank you this has been my TED talk.-Not Alex 15:14, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
7. Slipmcripfist (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
8. Branebriar1930 (talk) 15:59, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
9. kdarrow is the model bureaucrat - we are beyond lucky to have her as a member of our community. She has been filling the role for over a year now, it is time to make it official. Scribe-Howard (waster_93) (talk) 16:00, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
10. It is an obvious conclusion. - Thaang 16:06, July 19, 2021 (UTC)
11. DirtyBlue929 (talk) 16:13, 19 July 2021 (UTC) Easy yes. She's one of the most active editors the wiki's had in years and has done an amazing job of pushing us to actually start updating and improving our content rather than navel-gazing about lore without actually fact-checking things. Not to mention the excellent work she's done in both bringing new users and staff into the fold, myself included.
12. Easiest yes vote ever. I can't think of anyone who would be a better addition to the bureaucrat team than Kate. The Appalachian (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
13. Not hard for me to justify a yes vote. I think Kate is just what the wiki leadership needs as it move forward. --Crimson Knight (talk) 16:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
14.  :) Ryon21 (talk) 16:46, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
15. Accomplished body of work and active outside of just editing. Occasionally a bleeding heart, but it makes sense to see our most active admin make a run for crat. At this point, the only real surprise was that she waited this long to make the petition...and that she did not contort her name and "bureaucrat" into some sort of bureaukate like abomination. If there's a looming heel turn coming, I certainly have not seen it. She's earned support through a significant amount of time dedicated to the wiki and community. The Dyre Wolf (talk) 16:50, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
16. If it wasn't for Kate, I wouldn't be an editor and would still be complaining that the wiki sucks. Editing is intimidating but she has gone above and beyond to help anyone with an interest. Recruting and training new editors is essential to the continued life of the wiki and she excels at it and will be able to do so much more with the tools of a bureaucrat. Gilpo1 (talk) 18:19, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
17. I still have faith in the Wiki, it might not be beyond saving. Have my humble vote here, Kate. garwert (talk) 18:54, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
18. Old Lady Darrow runs a tight ship, and I would know. She is the best at editing and is the best at being nice. Approved!! -darrow 2.0 18:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
19. Because she paid me $50 to vote "yes" ;-) Aya42 ^{T C} 21:10, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
20. She is geographically near Mr. House and that's good. User: Claymantionfake 21:39, July 19, 2021 (UTC)
21. Kate has shown a drive and dedication to the wiki that hasn't been seen for many years. I commend her every move and addition to the wiki, and I know her further roles and tools that BC would give her would only stand as the best for the wiki and everyone here. I wish Kate only the best from here on, as she has my complete faith and I know she will do outstanding as a BC, and support and represent us all well. -- ^{"Those Old World Relics still stand..."} 23:15, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
22. Kvile2000 (talk) 00:05, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
23. Can't think of anything to say that hasn't already been said, Kate's great to work with and will be brilliant as a bureaucrat. Aiden4017 (talk) 00:10, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
24. I haven't been active on Nukapedia much recently, but I have definitely noticed that Kdarrow has been thoroughly helpful and a prominent participant in discussions and I look forward to having them involved even further with the wiki :D Soac3dSauc3 00:17, July 20, 2021 (UTC)
25. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 03:18, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
26. Frog collector (talk) 03:26, 20 July 2021 (UTC) kdarrow is very helpful when you need help,shes always willing to help if in need-frog collector (did I do that right?)
27. Liny (talk) Q('_'Q) 03:31, July 20, 2021 (UTC) Might as well throw in an extra vote for the sake of overkill. If anyone deserves the opportunity, it's definitely her.
28. TootsieRollsAddict (talk 04:11, July 20, 2021 (UTC) While I may have left the server, I am still around, and now, I will pay my homage, and stick to my word. All hail the Free Kates! I am the patron saint, and you shall become bureaucrat!
29. A very obvious YES! — Arcaneous “The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end.” 04:13, July 20, 2021 (UTC)
30. Easiest Yes vote in the history of Yes votes. She's all but doing the job already, after all. Oh, and stop removing my vote FFS! GudyGudy (talk) 05:58, July 20, 2021 (UTC)
31. Absolutely from me. Thanks for your supportive words and botting skills MiffyTPC (talk) 13:59, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
32. Kdarrow would absolutely fit this role. User:Masterluuc1 talk 18:38, July 20, 2021 (UTC)
33. Kate is an extremely dedicated and active member of this community. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I can't think of anyone more suited to this role than Kate it. Skysteam (talk) 23:19, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
34. I can't think of a reason to say no. Kate as been a extremely helpful person when I was first starting out here. CookieGamer733 ^(Talk) 17:09, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
35. Though, with this she will also get an involuntary "honorary administrator" role - that you cannot refuse - on the PT Fallout Wiki due to her new rank + contributions there Lincoln ^Speak! 01:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
36. Kate is surely one of the most dedicated and hard working contributors for the entire Fallout franchise. She surely deserves the higher role. SenyraInnov 08:49, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
37. I have no doubt that Kate will only make this community better as a crat. ~the elusive legume 12:37, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
38. This works for me. And I say that as someone who has been pulled up by Kate a few times. ;-) Her productivity, consistency and attention to detail is legendary. Spikezarkspike (talk) 15:12, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
39. Alright, I think Darrow is one of the better people for the job of Bureaucrat. She is active in the discord and on the wiki page itself. She has spoken about having more community nights, trying to get the wiki social medias more active. Trying to do more to bring the wiki together and more efficient. She Handles drama maturely and doesn't blow things up. She tries to make things more welcoming and over all increase the quality of the wiki. Whether it be here or on the discord server. People will have different opinions from her and that's fine. That's what makes us different. Kdarrow has always kept her opinions professionally. Trust me Darrow and I have many differences in opinion but we still talk and are mature about it all. She takes stances on things and actually wants things to get over all better. While others would rather things to stay the same where anyone can change anything on a whim anonymously. She has pushed for better changes of the wiki and how it's organized as well. I don't think there is anyone else more fit for the job a Bureaucrat. Especially when she is more active than most of the mods in the server on discord and wiki. Some people will try to say she's not fit but those are the same people that point out private conversations and start drama. This is a wiki and discord server over a game franchise (not our life. If the server is your life might want to touch some grass and see clouds and the sky IRL). A game series we all love. Kdarrow is one of the biggest fans I know. I think she is fit to be one of the leaders. I know she will handle the job better than anyone else that could run in the near future. ScarecrowVT (talk)

No

1. Not gonna break the streak of ruining unanimous votes. Also you are a BAD EDITOR😡😡😡 DankalorYT 14:59, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
2. SIGMA GRINDSET - never let them know your next move 😤😤😤 AllYourFavorites (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
3. Bippity boppity Devastating Dave^{ZIP ZAP RAP} 00:12, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
4. , Dave is now Kate's property.... seeing as this vote will pass by an enormous margin we might as well put commentary in the No section. Grats, Kate. |\| () |\/| /\ |) | Talk | Discord | NMC 02:41, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
5. Following a lengthy discussion in the security room on Discord, it is apparent to me that Kate at the very least seems content with pushing changes - both large and small - without making votes beforehand. She has talked about doing this as a sort of "trial run" to get data on the changes before supporting those changes as the sponsor of a vote, but that simply isn't the way changes work around here, especially with a change as fundamental as blocking anon edits. Furthermore, it seems apparent to me that this anon ban is in place primarily because the added tasks of reverting vandalism and banning users drains her ability to edit. In that case, I question why she needs more tools beyond content mod in the first place when her primary goal is to edit and institute purely proactive measures in a place where, in my own experience as a moderator, reactionary efforts frankly work far better when keeping the community happy, even if it means more work for the staff. Sigmund Fraud ^{Talk Contributions} 04:10, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
6. with much respect, I do not see a need for another crat, much less one with a cult of personality going on. Frankly, I agree with sig that banning anons is a bit beyond ridiculous User:FalloutofStarWars2077 16:48, July 22, 2021 (UTC)
7. I completely agree with Sigmund. Moreover this user has a cult of personality around her which I find troubling for any Bureaucrat. I am not exaggerating. There are a number of accounts seemingly named after her (Darrowdeo and Bowndarrow just to name two). Additionally, to reiterate what Sigmund said, this user has supported the continuation of the anon block because it makes things easier. This goes against the ideals of the very concept as a wiki. When Jimmy Wales and Larry Sagner created the very concept of a wiki it was with the idea of public control over knowledge. They both allowed anons to edit on purpose. Jgrsoto 17:01, July 22, 2021 (UTC)

Neutral

1. you seem like a nice enough person, but I don't really think another bureaucrat is needed right now. There is an ongoing fallout content drought, all of the older mischievous users like myself are either well and gone or lurking and the current staff members are doing a good enough job wrangling the rest. Unless you plan on mixing things up and making some waves (cracking down on doxxing, organizing community events, etc) I can't really say I'm for or against you. CobaltJack (talk) 04:59, July 20, 2021 (UTC)

Excluded

1. do more than show pictures of your ass lmao Realjanitor (talk) User not eligible, no prior activity before voting. -- DirtyBlue929 (talk) 20:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
2. Hell yeah, sure seems to be a great overseer! 13:10, 20 July 2021 (UTC) Tinyds (talk) 13:10, 20 July 2021 (UTC) User not eligible, no edits or /d posts prior to voting. –Findabair^{The benefit of the doubt is often doubtful.} 14:08, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
3. Meh, I don't see why not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pattywhack (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~! User does not meet edit/discussion requirements prior to voting - Sigmund Fraud ^{Talk Contributions} 04:23, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Comments

I like to be informed and scrutinise, so I have a few questions for you as I prefer concrete actions over pretty words. You say you "aim to advocate for under-represented groups". Are there any specific groups you're thinking of? Do you have concrete plans for representation? Also, do you have specific past examples of making "everyone's voices heard" that you're particularly proud of? - FDekker ^(talk) 22:34, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Speaking for myself on your last question, when I first joined the wiki, there was a group of people who took it upon themselves to try to drown out my voice, harass and intimidate me until I left the wiki. Had it not been for supportive staff like kdarrow, AYF, Leon, etc, I wouldn't be here.

intrepid3597/19/21 [6:12pm]

I can echo Intrepid's experience. After my first few edits I was told by staff I was doing it wrong and needed to make a new template, which I had no idea what that was. When I tried to get more info I was told to 'figure it out.' It was discouraging and it was over a year before I made any further substantial edits as a result. Only with Kate's encouragement and the Vault Academy did I get the confidence to get back in the water. Gilpo1 (talk) 23:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dekker, I appreciate your questions and I am happy to shine some light on where my thoughts are regarding these topics. Also, Gilpo and Intrepid, I am very grateful to read what you both have written here, thank you for sharing these sentiments with me. Means more than I can say.

To the topic at hand, as far as under-represented groups, I think it is important to have someone at the helm that is active in all facets of the wiki community, as well as one who is mindful of differing experience levels. Some members are naturally more or only focused on one part of our group as a whole, which is completely fine, such as those who participate in Discussions but not on the wiki, or those who edit but who do not utilize Discord. My concern and what I hope to alleviate are situations where policies or changes could potentially impact a specific group's user experience, but they would be unaware until it is being implemented.

Identifying it to begin with requires a level of engagement, as does making sure everyone is informed and has the ability to provide feedback, and then bringing their ideas to the table. It's already difficult to ensure all views are present and accounted for, but by maintaining an active presence, I have been successful in seeing potential implications of decisions, in discerning if moving in a certain direction could have a desirous impact on a specific group, and working to ensure everyone feels valued and included here.

Differing experience levels also result in contingents of editors that may face varying challenges, the forefront of my effort is working with those who are new. Without an inherent knowledge of how to edit, how to interpret or find policies, or who to contact with questions, the wiki can be a daunting place at first. I am especially passionate about facilitating these initial interactions, whether they be edits, first impressions, or both, and have worked very diligently in this capacity, to truly listen to what especially frustrates or challenges new editors, and have these experiences guide my hand when planning and taking action, serving to be as welcoming and user-friendly of an environment as possible for everyone.

I know that the wiki is a much different place when you are brand new as opposed to when you are familiar with the landscape, so to speak, and building these connections through mentorship has allowed me to hear and address concerns, advocating for what may be useful or what proves to be hindrances. This feedback and subsequent advocacy provide me the opportunity to help create a more accessible environment for the next round of new users, contributing to long-term quality improvement.

To your last question, I can say confidently that my role in facilitating and maintaining the affiliation with the dataminers is an effort I am especially proud of. At the beginning of our relationship, the dataminers faced a situation not unlike new editors, where they not only had to traverse the learning curve of editing in general but also navigate pushback against suggestions concerning how to incorporate and implement the information of which they have significant expertise. I fashion myself a bit of a technical editor myself and was able to discern how much value their skillset and knowledge could contribute to the wiki, and how detrimental it would be to lose.

Over the following months, I put my full effort into bridging this gap, serving to negotiate for each side during these conflicts, advocating for dataminers in a time where members of their group did not make up a large contingent of our staff, while simultaneously advocating for our own policies and guidelines by way of explaining the hows and whys, a complicated balancing act with the goal of reaching agreements and making progress.

Seeing where we are now, with the two groups fully integrated, vast improvements to content, appearance, and accessibility, and enjoying a new, seamless, vibrant and collaborative environment, I consider this advocacy to be my most significant and impactful contribution to our community to date.

I hope this gives some more insight into where my mind is on these topics, but feel free to let me know any other questions you may have, I am happy to answer! - kdarrow ^{take her for a spin!} 02:11, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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Looks excellent here. What are your plans for specific uses of Bureaucrat-specific powers? |\| () |\/| /\ |) | Talk | Discord | NMC 02:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Nom! I appreciate your question. Semantics I know, but I consider any additional abilities granted to me by the will of the community to be tools rather than powers (lest my head overinflate). You are keen to notice that I did not include any initiatives on this application. Good eye! I originally had, but as I thought more about it, I decided I wanted to approach initiatives a little differently. If my application is successful, I would like to plan a few sit-downs, reserve some time for all of us to chat sort of informally, allow everyone to share with me what they think I should focus on, what they feel should be our priorities. I want to hear from users what I should pay closer attention to, I want them to share any potential opportunities they see, or conversely any challenges they are experiencing. That way, I can start off by addressing issues that community members feel are most important, instead of me dictating my initiatives to them.

I do admit however that this is sort of a cop-out answer, so I will share a few of the ideas I had rolling around. One thought I had was to increase communication between our group and Fandom staff, via Discord or our wiki rep Mr. Pie, to see if we are leaving any tools on the table. I have attended a few AMAs and events that Fandom has hosted and these folks are really approachable, very enthusiastic to help, so I'm interested in exploring that avenue. I am also really excited about the thought of getting a welcome committee up and running, hopefully resulting in a reinvigorated social media presence, as well as a push to organize more regular community events such as game and moving nights, trivia, contests, various other fun fun-ness.

I also believe there may be some benefit to reaching out to the staff teams of other large Fandom wikis to begin conversations on their workflow, pick their brains, see if we can sort of copy anything helpful/applicable instead of reinventing wheels. Ideally, we could maintain an ongoing relationship with these other neighborhood wikis, potentially navigating large rollouts, updates, and changes together. In the same C.A.M.P., I thought about exploring possibilities centering around new affiliations or working partnerships with the creators or groups maintaining tools such as NukaCrypt and Mappalachia, in an attempt to automate some functions for articles that have a heavy focus on world placements.

Hopefully this gives a bit of insight into what I think may bring value to our group, of course, dictated by how you all feel about it. I look forward to hearing ideas, suggestions, making plans, and rolling up my sleeves to work on priorities for the community and maybe even have some fun while doing it. Let me know if you have any other questions for me, I am glad to share anything you'd like to know! - kdarrow ^{take her for a spin!} 02:11, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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While I accept and respect every vote, I feel the need to set the record straight, as I have a serious issue with what is written in the comment tied to Sigmund Fraud's vote, since it contains factually incorrect statements and insinuates a misbehavior of the user requesting bureaucrat rights. It is also speculative and rather disrespectfully written:

1. Anonymous editing was disabled by admin consensus, not by kdarrow unilaterally deciding to operate a "trial run" and "pushing changes." A discussion about re-enabling anonymous editing is on the agenda for the next Meeting of the Minds.
   
2. Anonymous editing was disabled to keep multiple permabanned individuals from editing and circumventing their bans via VPN - not because kdarrow's "added tasks of reverting vandalism and banning users drained her ability to edit."
   
3. It is a pretty bold move to assume what her "primary goals" are, when she clearly stated her intentions regarding the future of the wiki above.

In addition, I don't see how one's primary goal being editing is a problem...on a wiki? And quite frankly, there is nothing wrong with proactive measures, because I think that "reactionary efforts" definitely were a part in fueling the toxicity of the past. –Findabair^{The benefit of the doubt is often doubtful.} 10:14, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

I am completely in agreement with Fin here. Voting no is one thing, but twisting the thoughts that were shared in Security-Desk is another, especially when Kate was open to hearing the opinions of others and has even agreed to vote on the anon issue despite it not being a one-person decision.

Additionally, I am staunchly for having defenses instead of being "reactionary." As Fin stated, issues of the past that were dealt with this way resulted in too little too late. I'm quite aware that some users think I'm too keen on following the rules and not just the "spirit" of them, but there is a line we have a responsibility to tread when it comes to keeping our wiki both fun and functional on all fronts - and Kate is willing and able to be a fantastic figurehead in the community when it comes to this. —Katy Webb ^{A better future, underground!} 14:49, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Reiterating some of the same critiques above, the rationale accompanying Sig's vote goes beyond a misrepresentation of the conversation in the Security Desk to being an outright fabrication. Let's set the record straight where he was at best wrong and at worst actively choosing to lie about the circumstances which saw the anon ban enacted. It was not unilateral decision to lock out anons editing, made by only by Kdarrow. The consensus of administrators and bureaucrats, faced with a significant amount of vandalism from dedicated banned users who were circumventing their exile through the use of VPNs as well as their targeting of editors and Nukapedia users, saw the anon ban enacted. Kdarrow was not even the admin who "pulled the trigger" so to speak, so whatever aspersions Sig wants to cast in this respect can safely be ignored as false.

Differing opinions are one thing, so if Sig prefers to let the wiki burn first before taking any action, that is his opinion to hold, though I would still argue it is not in the best interest of the wiki. That numerous users came forth with complaints and constant stress from dealing with the aforementioned banned users is a conspicuously absent point of discussion, as opposed to a hypothetical encroachment of happiness, which in the SD conversation, was the dissenting interpretation of effects.

The origin of the anon edits being turned off is not matter of opinion, however. Having a passionate belief is one thing, but spinning a narrative with no basis in reality is another matter entirely. For all the talk of "disrespect" that may have occurred during the course of voting, a silly "no" vote is small potatoes in the grand scheme. Silly "yes" votes have never been an issue of contention, so a "no" vote should be judged no more harshly. But making shit up on the spot? That's down right reprehensible, to the point that my faith in Sig's judgement and whatever weight his experience as a moderator might otherwise carry, has essentially been voided by such a poor choice here. The Dyre Wolf (talk) 16:11, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

...or he just made an honest mistake and interpreted the events wrongly. Or just had a different interpretation in general. Nothing wrong with that. We have to be respectful to each other here and assume good faith, lest we create a groupthink environment in which disagreement is frowned upon. - FDekker ^(talk) 16:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

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For as non-serious as my "no" vote was (this vote will pass either way), I'm glad I didn't say anything of worth, as the reaction to Sig's vote has shown that saying something that simply goes against the groupthink will immediately be met with accusations of dishonesty and casting doubt on one's judgement and ability as a moderator. That is a sorry state to be in where a single no vote in which the person explains themselves causes paragraphs of damage control (none of which have come from the actual subject of the vote) containing language befitting of a reconfirmation request. AllYourFavorites (talk) 16:49, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Celebrating an assumption of bad faith is not a good look, in my honest opinion. AllYourFavorites (talk) 17:27, 22 July 2021 (UTC)