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Alright Ladies and Gents it is now time to discuss the matter of Bullets/Bullet points. Now as you know there is a rule/regulation that if there is only one piece of info in a section then there should be no bullet. However, if there is a small note there then there is usually a bullet point to show that "Hey, somethings here so read me!". I am concerned however with the professional look it gives. I believe that all notes or info should have a bullet point. It seems more professional and gives the pages a better look. Albeit, a lot of pages now have no bullet points due to this rule it would be nothing for someone such as myself (a person who just hits "Random Page" to look for mistakes on pages, to add links, or to write notes) to correct and fix this on a ton of pages. My reasons for bullets on every pages will be listed below. I hope everyone can see and understand this as I have voiced my concerns to a few Bureaucrats, Admins, Mods, and Patrollers before my leave (as Gunslinger470) and now one this new account. In a sense these would go towards my edit count, but as a true person I would gladly NOT use these for my return as a Patroller here on Nukapedia, but rather as a man who is looking to clean up this place and make it look just a fraction of a bit better on pages. Now for my much needed reasons:

  • Makes pages look more professional and more designed.
  • Without them notes may not be seen or looked at when needed.
  • Removes oddness from the pages (Much the same as reason #1).

This next one may seem like a stretch but...

  • It may help Admins and Mods start projects to show New Users how to edit and do things a little more properly.

I would love to here feedback on this from all known and new members. So please, leave a comment below and check yes or a check no for your outlook on it. Thank You!

RangerSequoia "Some say this user used to be a Patroller..." Wiki 08:16, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

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I think we had this debate awhile ago, and concluded that it was best to not use bullet points. They typically denote a list of information, rather than a piece of it. Also, I admire that you'd like this to become a project, but it really wouldn't teach someone much about editing, it's just a small piece of standardization. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 08:24, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

  • Wasn't here for it and couldn't find it so I thought I would bring it up. I wouldn't mind if it did become a project, but it would bother me if it didn't, that's why I said a "stretch". I respect your opinion my friend. RangerSequoia "Some say this user used to be a Patroller..." Wiki 08:29, December 7, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you Gunslinger, it does improve the sight of the page, giving it a clean look. Especially now that the new lay-out made more notes into 1-liners-- Greets 11:18, December 7, 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely not. We will not abandon proper typography for the simple sake of looking more professional. We are an encyclopedia of Fallout knowledge. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 14:01, December 7, 2013 (UTC)
Miss using proper typography doesn't look more professional, anyway. It may look prettier, sure, but not more professional. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?"UserRichard 14:03, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

(I concur with Leon. Proper typography must be adhered to, even if it is somewhat less pleasing to look at in certain cases. FollowersApocalypseLogomorituri te salutamus 20:55, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

I generally like bullet points. I just added them for example in front of terminal entries in Camp Searchlight. Without it, it looks akward. Same thing with quests in the interactions section, when there was just a (very) short description, I tend to add a bullet. Otherwise it doesn't look good. With more content, taking up two lines, I was ok with dropping it. But now we have all this new space and the content isn't that squished anymore in the narrow space to the left of the infobox. There's a lot of room to work with now, so the bullet taking up space won't catch the eye anymore. So I'm in favor of reinstating it. My view of it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:11, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

We may be an "encyclopedia" in a main sense, but we are also a community, forum, and one of the top wikis on here. I understand the typography part of this, but in general most people ignore it or do not comply with it and it is our choice as a community to decide. I understand both sides and I have agreements and arguments for both. I believe in sense we should run this through as a community vote and let what happens happen with no penalty or hate towards one side. RangerSequoia "Some say this user used to be a Patroller..." Wiki 04:48, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

We are an encyclopedia first and foremost. We're going to need batter reasons before this can be taken into account. Looking prettier is not a good reason to ignore proper grammar and typography. If we start ignoring these, it sets a bad precedent. And next think you'll know, we'll just be another half-assed fan-website that doesn't know middle-school writing conventions. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 04:56, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

UpdateEdit

I suggest we add bullets points when listing one to 3 word items/other subject. Seeing it on for example Rocket (Fallout Tactics) looks just plain awful/akward. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:50, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

As long as there are two or more items, an article section may constitute a "List," which would warrant the use of bullet-points. If there is only one point in a single given section, that cannot be considered a list, and use of bullet-points for non-lists is a blatant disregard for proper English conventions.
I will digress in that sometimes this makes our articles look a tiny bit awkward. But I hold-fast to my belief that professionalism should be held on a higher pedestal than vanity aesthetics. User:Sarkhan the Sojourner 18:01, June 16, 2015 (UTC)
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