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In regards to the rather unestablished consensus, I'd like to bring forth a formal discussion (and vote) in regards to the naming system as present on the page, to at least establish which form of the system should be used.

As far as I see it, we have two rather main options, to keep the current naming system which is based upon the shorthand version of the respective items as found when browsing the store, or to change the names to the name seen when inspecting said item in the store.

Personally I lean towards using the inspected name, as the name is generally more precise on what the intended item actually is - for example, currently on the page at the time of posting, are three different entries under the name "Camouflage paints", of which are all for three different items, respectively three different armor types. As more items get added into 76, the list would inevitably grow which results in having a ton of duplicates for a given name. The three inspect names for the three "Camouflage paints" entries are much more precise, showcasing as "Camouflage Combat Armor Paint", "Camouflage Leather Armor Paint", "Camouflage Metal Armor Paint", providing a clearer understanding of the purpose of the item and which items it can be applied to, instead of being repurposed under the same name in triplicate.

So the question is, should we switch to the inspect naming system? It would be a trade-off for precision over what is first seen by the user in the store, but i want to see what the consensus is. Prof. Sugarcube (talk) 09:15, April 22, 2019 (UTC)

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  1. Icon check As (sort of) mentioned on the talkpage, I prefer the inspect naming system because of the ambiguity of the alternative. They don't usually differ too much from what they're listed at in the store, and the page will have pictures to assist the user as well in case of confusion. --L84tea Tea kettleWould you like a cup of tea? 00:07, April 23, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Icon check It's never good to have duplicate names for different items. --Lakewalker (talk) 02:12, May 5, 2019 (UTC)

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As a side proposal I may also suggest utilizing tautological removal, for example "Innocent Player Icon" in a section labelled, "player icons", and instead just have the entry as "Innocent". Any thoughts upon this greatly appreciated too since the inspect name and tautological name are related. Prof. Sugarcube (talk) 09:44, April 26, 2019 (UTC)

I haven't really played FO76 recently. Could you give some examples of shop names vs. inspection names?
- FDekker talk 09:48, April 26, 2019 (UTC)

Happily - it's good to note the Inspect names are also the same names as the xedit entries -
Shop name Inspect name
RR jumpsuit Red Rocket jumpsuit
Vampire costume Halloween vampire costume
Camouflage paint Camouflage hunting rifle paint
Camouflage paint Camouflage leather armor paint
Camouflage paint Camouflage combat armor paint
Camouflage paint Camouflage metal armor paint
Vault-Tec paint Vault-Tec leather armor paint
Vault-Tec paint Vault-Tec combat armor paint
As you can see the shop names are repeating, or more generic less specific names of the items, whereas the inspect names include identifiers that help distinguish what is what. Prof. Sugarcube (talk) 10:00, April 26, 2019 (UTC)
On one hand, the store names are ambiguous and are not very useful. On the other hand we need to accommodate users that want to search for those items by the name they see in the store, for example when those users want to learn more before spending their money. Since some shop listings actually contain multiple items, maybe we could add one column with the store name and one with its contents, where the latter contains the item's name?
- FDekker talk 11:34, April 28, 2019 (UTC)
Hilariously enough, I have already started the usage of a contents section for the bundles and sets on the page itself, it was missing and it seems to be pretty important information - it has multiple entries accustomed to it already. Many of the item shop names are also using many of the similar language used in the inspect language, with some limited exceptions (generally vault-tec stuff), rendering players who search for said item able to find the item anyway. It appears all bases should be covered, any loopholes later discovered i'd be sure to patch quickly... Or at least ask billions of questions about it. Prof. Sugarcube (talk) 11:45, April 28, 2019 (UTC)
So what do you think about doing that for all items, not just the bundles?
- FDekker talk 16:50, April 30, 2019 (UTC)
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