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Forum:Article naming policy addendum - Acronyms

Hello, wasteland.

After some discussion with User:kdarrow, I just introduced an addendum to the Fallout Wiki:Editing guideline policy, specifically, the article naming policy.

Overview

This has been something that has bugged the heck out of me since I joined, and I'm sure its caused a lot of confusion for our editors and readers alike. What I'm referring is the our handling of acronyms, something ubiquitous to the Fallout brand. Traditionally, we have inclination to either use the full name of the concept, or, in some cases, the acronym as it appears in-game (with the intermittent periods).

Basically, our number one rule states:

Article and category names (URLs) should be as precise and, at the same time, as short as possible.

This echos the fundamental reason for content organization, which is "how easy it is for readers to find the content they are looking for. A wiki should aim to make access to its content as easy as possible - after all, there is not much use in creating content which nobody can find and read." First-and-foremost, our URLs need to be something that the ultra-casual Fallout player will be most likely to type in when searching for the topic, while remaining distinct from other topics on the site.

Despite this, we use "Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System" instead of "V.A.T.S." or "VATS", or (until moments ago) Construction and Assembly Mobile Platform instead of "C.A.M.P." or "CAMP". Even though the game gives us a handy acronym, which they almost exclusively use, we instead opt to list the topic under the name which only the most die-hard fans are going to be familiar with.

If someone new to Fallout doesn't know the full name of the topic until they read the page, how exactly would they be expected to find it? If they are typing "PAM" into the search bar, they will be irritated that all that is popping up is "Predictive Analytic Machine" - because they're accustomed to seeing her as "P.A.M." in-game (and probably skipped over the dialogue anyhow).

Additionally, this isn't even something we are consistent on.

Addendum

My addition is two-fold:

  • We prioritize the acronym, making the URL with the full name a redirect
  • We omit the periods, making the URL with the periods a redirect

For example, instead of Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System, we will use VATS as the primary URL.

If you have an objections, please use the comments section and hopefully we can reach a consensus on the best way to word things or do a vote.

Thank you very much, Scribe-Howard (waster_93) (talk) FO76 vaultboy transparent face.png 07:18, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


Comments

Honestly, I agree that shorter and more known names is better. We can always add the full name in the introduction. So I support the idea. Although I'm not so sure about the periods. If I have to choose on that one, I think I'd prefer to keep the periods and add the name without them as a redirect. The wiki search quickly recognizes redirects so users looking for the page shouldn't have any problem finding it. --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 15:19, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

This brings up a good point that I failed to mention. These pages will be using the {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} template to restore the periods to the article title, while simplifying URL. Omitting the periods is something I am willing to change my stance on. Scribe-Howard (waster_93) (talk) FO76 vaultboy transparent face.png 19:28, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
These things can always be updated, so for now we could move them to the acronym without periods, and see how things are from there. For example, the GECK is mostly written without the periods in the games, no? So in the meantime it is fine. --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 07:49, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
To add another bit. I think in the end it may be best to keep the periods considering how unique can some acronyms be, like M.A.R.Go.T. for example. --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 22:11, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

No objections from me. A fun exercise, Bowndarrow is relatively new to Fallout so I gave her a pop quiz, asking her what is ....

  1. a player-built makeshift home in Fallout 76?
  2. the slow motion aiming mechanic in Fallout 4?
  3. plant growing technology used after the war?

... and she answered CAMP, VATS, GECK. She didn't know what they stood for, which both illustrates the point and is deeply embarrassing for me as a parent. Just a bit of anecdotal info for you. -Pickman heart.png kdarrow take her for a spin! 05:50, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


I have no objections, should make linking a whole lot easier. –FindabairMini-JSPnP Logo.pngThe benefit of the doubt is often doubtful. 21:52, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

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