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I was viewing the Marvel wiki, due to its high quality and its large amount of quality of information (hell, if you read this you don't even need comics, by why would you not want them?) and one thing I noticed was the entire lack of a administration, or at least to the extent of a democratic one, for there are no admins or people in positions in power. On one hand, this can be harmful, such as in the sense that I was seeing flaws in several articles. However, there are also mistakes and a large portion of articles in the Vault have mistakes such as grammar and worse. On the other hand, with the previous point in hand, it seems to have led it to be more of a community rather than a government, with less trolling and abuse than here. It could be that because of the lack of regulation, it builds on an issue of trust that the users respect, because obviously why would they disgrace something they are devoted to? And this got me thinking, why is it that the Vault has many issues that the Marvel wiki does not have, despite the fact that it is greatly superiorly organized than the Marvel wiki. I am not saying this as a criticism of the administration, rather of the standard anon and user, for they seem, at often times, to just show great disrespect to others and to the Vault. I was wondering (my point finally reached) if we could, in some way, implement more of a trust means of regulating the Vault, as though we were linked together as a respected community, rather than being forced together out of fear of being blocked or banned. It is sort of the methodology of how to cut down on the crime rates: does one implement more heavily strict laws and higher budgets in terms of law enforcement and crime prevention, or does one try to boost the budgets of schools and education to teach children and young adults about the danger of crime before they have the possibility of becoming the criminals? But, I digress, for this is all theoretical, and it might just as well be that the majority of Marvel wiki users are simply higher in age and thus more mature than the bulk of the Vault users, or it may be that they are more devoted to it than us. No matter the cause, and whether or not this issue is addressed, I just wanted to put it out there. Sombar1 05:43, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Very simple answer to all this, Marvel Wiki does not allow anons to edit. Its not about admins, lack of regulations, postions of power etc, it all comes down to one very restrictive policy. 06:03, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
- There's a variety of factors which contributes to this. One would be what GhostAvatar mentioned; another is that Marvel Wiki receives only ~12.5% of our average traffic (less visitors = less vandals). Any site related to gaming is likely to attract more trolls than other sites, and Fallout-related sites particularly so (due to the reputation of Fallout fans). The Fallout fanbase in itself is more divided than the Marvel one, and that naturally extends to our wiki as well. In addition, I'm pretty sure the average age of our visitors is lower than that of Marvel Wiki. Just to mention a few.
- Plus I don't really think the admins here rule with as much of an "iron fist" as you seem to be making out. Sure, sometimes my fellow admins are a bit more curt than I'd like, but that's somewhat understandable when you consider they're likely telling people the same thing for the x-th time. -- Porter21 (talk) 10:04, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
I didn't mean to say that they rule with an iron fist, what I meant was that if you go against the rules then essentially you will get banned no matter what you do. But the lack of anons in the Marvel wiki does make sense. Sombar1
- The lack of anons is a double-edged sword. While anons are responsible for most of the vandalism, most of the anonymous contributions are actually good. And many users started as anons and then registered after some time - same users could have not registered at all if they had not been able to edit as anons. And as Porter mentioned, The Vault is one of the most popular wikis at Wikia in terms of page views, so such a wiki is harder to control than ones with fewer contributors. Ausir(talk) 17:56, February 25, 2011 (UTC)