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Meeting of the Minds 2021
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An overview of all initiatives, decisions, and progress on projects stemming from Meeting of the Minds in 2021.

Meetings[]

April[]

Topic Presenter Discussion Plan
Next step Lead(s) Complete
Announcements, updates, and awards
kdarrow
New staff members, anniversaries, Savior of the Damned, NotY 2020, Fandom awards, Vault Academy grads Congratulate all awardees and welcome new staff
kdarrow
Yes
Template creation and use
Jspoelstra
Need a designated group checking templates before they're implemented. Need more clear guidelines of what expectations are for documentation. Update template overview page and maintain it as templates are created, replaced, or retired. Form quality assurance committee in project space
kdarrow
Yes
Create subpages for work in progress, changelog, and template review/approval logs.
Eckserah
Plagiarism of game guides
Dirty Blue Dog
Significant number of articles include direct copy paste and/or lack references concerning game guides. Need to paraphrase from and appropriately reference these source texts. Start and setup project including article checklist table.
kdarrow
Add unique parameter to cleanup tag for auto-adding articles to new project-specific category.
Eckserah
Identify and list plagiarized or poorly references articles in checklist.
Dirty Blue Dog
Fallout 2 restoration project content
Jspoelstra
Discuss covering mod content, such as location images and/or character images with indication they are from restoration patch. Consensus is that the project content does not fall under our scope, as it is based on modders' interpretation of design documents and not developer statements or cut content, inability to independently verify. Images renamed and labeled as restoration project, moved to blog or sandbox.
kdarrow
Yes
Remove all remaining restoration mod content from mainspace.
kdarrow
Yes
Redirect category
Jspoelstra
Redirect category is unnecessary due to ListRedirects page. Consensus is that ListRedirects tool is sufficient for our needs and phasing out category is appropriate. Run bot to remove redirect category from existing pages.
kdarrow
Yes
Clarification of stub articles
Dirty Blue Dog
Current policy outlines that a topic must have sufficient content to justify independent article. Stub articles are for topics that do have this content, but are yet to be written. Single mentions without sufficient content are not stubs. These mentions should be added to and referenced within a related, existing article. Merge articles that do not have sufficient content into related, existing articles.
Ongoing
Neutral
Race infobox parameter
Scribe-Howard (waster_93)
Discussed race in game file data and how it should be presented, as technical information as opposed to information used to determine a character's ethnicity. GECK base characters are prefabs and CK removes it entirely, replacing with skin tone. In cases that a character mentions details or it is outlined elsewhere, appropriate to add to background section. Create specific parameter for GECK skin tone, move from bio to tech tab.
Scribe-Howard (waster_93)
Yes
Gender as parameter for robots/computers
kdarrow
Discussed assigning gender to computer and robot characters, currently using "male/female programming." Should not assign a gender to a robot based on presuming that of a voice actor. Exceptions are appropriate, favor only using gender parameter for those that explicitly refer to themselves as a specific gender, with verifiable reference to support. Add voice type parameter to applicable templates.
Scribe-Howard (waster_93)
Yes
Remove gender/sex/programming from infoboxes of robots/computers
Ongoing
Neutral
Reassess featured articles project
AllYourFavorites
Current articles rotating as featured on main page are in need of an update. Purpose of featured articles rotating on main is to showcase our best content, and the current selections are in need of an update. Project would focus on reviewing existing features for quality, adding featured articles from FO4 and FO76, and shifting from calendar rotation to random selection. Users can nominate articles, project team assess if it's referenced correctly, eliminate speculation, ensure formatting is correct. Strong consensus and interest in project. Potentially use weighted inclusion for times of year i.e. Halloween articles during October. Create project page, standards and action plan to be determined.
AllYourFavorites
Yes
Infobox alignment and capitalization
Scribe-Howard (waster_93)
Discussed right alignment and capitalization of infoboxes across the site as well as the merits of options including remaining as-is and changing to other formatting. Update template as described above.
Scribe-Howard (waster_93)
Yes

June[]

Topic Presenter Discussion Plan
Next step Lead(s) Complete
Announcements, updates, and awards
kdarrow
New staff members and Vault Academy grads Congratulate all graduates and welcome new staff
kdarrow
Yes
Infobox item template specificity
kdarrow
Item infobox too unwieldy, difficult to document, utilize, and teach. Call to split based on specific item, align with Fandom best practices. Discussion will move to forum vote, posted and accessible here.
kdarrow
Yes
Consistent headers for reference types
Findabair
Both bold and colon are used, accessibility indicates colon should not be used. Wiki should be uniform in either direction. Moving forward bold headers will be used instead of colon. Will add this clarification to reference guidelines.
kdarrow
Yes
Appearance of FandomDesktop
Jspoelstra
New skins need work when considering design and colors for both light and dark modes. Current design is temporary for rollout. Eckserah has sandbox page for reporting issues, see here. Will touch base with FDekker to get prototypes going for current oasis skin and dark mode version.
Eckserah
Yes

July[]

Topic Presenter Discussion Plan
Next step Lead(s) Complete
Edit summary clarity
The Appalachian
Frustration among users about their edits being reverted without good reason. Discussion has been moved to a forum and pending results may proceed to a vote.
The Dyre Wolf
Yes
Wikipedia link usage
kdarrow
Concerns of negative impacts resulting from wikipedia links in the background, to the detriment of our wiki specific content being linked or created. Wikipedia links appropriate in behind the scenes only on gameplay/game articles and removed from other sections. Updated guidelines.
kdarrow
Yes
BTS specifications and presentation
Spontaneous, tangential topic
Concerns of what is and is not appropriate and how does speculation apply to cultural reference. Are there alternatives to current system or is it preferred?
Ongoing
Any
Neutral
Treatment of IRL information relating to articles
Spontaneous, tangential topic
Concerns of what is and is not appropriate use of real world information as it applies to articles. Clarify intended scope of articles.
Ongoing
Any
Neutral

August[]

Topic Presenter Discussion Plan
Next step Lead(s) Complete
Announcements
kdarrow
Any and all updates and news since the last meeting. Announcements, updates, awards, upcoming events.
kdarrow
Yes
Canonicity of Fallout Shelter
Aiden4017
Not consistent with current canon qualifiers and policies. Will move to forum discussion.
Zealous Champion
SaintPain policy clarifications
Aiden4017
Module for admin notifications, banning admin leave talk page open and message outlining appeal process Policy update, process clarifications
kdarrow
Yes
Module for admin notifications
Eckserah
Ban evasion addendum
Aiden4017
Add addendum to user conduct forbidding editing on behalf of banned users Policy update, SaintPain clock restarts for soliciting users to serve as proxy, regular warning/block duration for editing user.
kdarrow
Yes
Review of admin policy
Aiden4017
Concerning active bureaucrat clause line Policy update, remove outdated bureaucrat elevate line
kdarrow
Yes
General policy review
Aiden4017
Overview of all policies Topic to forum, see here
Aiden4017
Bureaucrat unilateral action/veto
Aiden4017
Bureaucrat cannot give rights back to users who have resigned, resignation is permanent. For votes, purpose of crat sign off is only formality, not to change vote results. Policy update on resignation component
kdarrow
Yes
Forum, veto for vote results staff consensus
Any
Neutral

September[]

Topic Presenter Discussion Plan
Next step Lead(s) Complete
Announcements
Great McAdmin
Any and all updates and news since the last meeting. All, we were all Great McAdmin
Great McAdmin
Yes
Games template
Findabair
The usage of the games template in combination with infoboxes. The games and addon images should turned off by wizards to unjanky the boxes. Css fix to omit.
Eckserah
Yes
Update categories
kdarrow
Discuss the practice of adding new categories for each update, i.e. [Update name] weapons, locations etc.
Ongoing
Any
Neutral
IRL information
Aiden4017
Incorporation of information for IRL locations & things which have only partial details provided. All information to be placed in behind the scenes sections only, not background or elsewhere.
Any
Neutral
Content warnings
LovinglyGaslight
Trigger/sensitivity warnings for articles containing specific content. here).
kdarrow
Yes

October[]

Topic Presenter Discussion Plan
Next step Lead(s) Complete
Announcements
kdarrow
Any and all updates and news since the last meeting. Announcements, updates, awards, upcoming events.
kdarrow
Yes
Real world people articles
kdarrow
Concerns of articles containing personal info without permission. Policy and guidelines updated
kdarrow
Remove personal information, focus on Fallout series involvement only. Wikipedia link ok, social media accounts not. Only information released by Bethesda, officially credited. Ongoing effort, potential project.
Any
Neutral
New plan ideas for exploits
Katy Webb
Users currently find them difficult to organize and find. Propose game-specific overview pages that include full list and transclude to specific object, location where exploit exists. Community interest, moving to forum.
Katy Webb
1RR replacing 3RR
Findabair
Amend 3RR to 1RR in user conduct policy. In effort to bring users to talk pages earlier and avoid conflict. Community interest, moving to forum.
Findabair
Moderation channels
Katy Webb
Proposal to open up moderation channels on Discord. To show more transparency with the community, keep them up to date, increase communication. Preliminary poll in #overseer-terminal was positive. Community interest, moving to forum.
Katy Webb
Yes
World object renames
kdarrow
World/workshop object renames to be consistent. Policy and guidelines updated
kdarrow
Need to name article by game and not add-on/update to be consistent across the board. Ongoing effort, potential project.
Any
Neutral
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