Changes: Fallout Tactics 2

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The following is based on information from Fallout Tactics 2 and is not canon.

Fallout Tactics 2 is the canceled sequel to Micro Forté and 14° East's Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel. It would have been the fourth video game set in the Fallout series and was planned for release on Microsoft Windows. It was in development by Micro Forté and 14° East and would have been published by Interplay Entertainment.

Development

Pre-production started shortly before the release of Fallout Tactics, but it was canceled around December 2001. When the first game did not meet financial expectations, the sequel was canceled by Interplay Entertainment.^{[citation needed]} It never proceeded past the conceptual phase.

Premise

The game's introduction would have featured the Midwest Brotherhood of Steel, following the Barnaky ending in the first game, facing off against the Mutant Liberation Army.^[1] The Brotherhood would have been broadcasting live one of their raids on a Mutant base.^[2]

The game's primary antagonistic force would have focused on an irradiated G.E.C.K. that was creating mutant plants and fungi. The mutant garden begins to spread fairly rapidly, preying upon animal life for fertilizer.^[3] The player character is tasked with discovering the source and a way to put an end to it.

Only bits and pieces of the game's premise are known. Concept art by a Micro Forte concept artist included mutant crocodiles, which may have been included.

Quotes

Gareth Davies: "I'm also pretty disappointed that Tactics 2 never saw the light of day, since it's a title that would have benefited from the experience and criticisms of the first game. Plus we were very conscious of heeding Fallout canon as best we could, and providing more interesting tactical missions rather than the run and gun focus of the first game."
(NMA interview)
Gareth Davies: "One of the biggest resources I drew upon when working in a more significant role on the ill fated FOT2 was varied treatises and comments from Fallout fans on what they felt constituted the Fallout universe. I was also lucky enough to have the original docs for Fallout on hand, and so between the original vision and a collective perception of that vision once realized it painted a pretty clear picture. Likewise, criticisms of the Tactics game world were taken on board and mentally collated."
(NMA interview)
Gareth Davies: "FOT2's major enemy would have made you its bitch."
(RPG Codex forums)
Tony Oakden: "IF we did Tactics 2 then I think we would want to make some major changes and we would have to think seriously about moving away from pre-rendered tiles and sprites."
(Freelancer interview)
Gareth Davies: "My biggest regret about Fallout Tactics 2 getting canned was the fact that we didn't get to unleash the Dialogue Tree secret encounter upon the world. 'You see the dialogue tree. It's brown, shriveled form obviously hasn't gotten the attention it deserves, but with love and care it would certainly live to bear sweet fruit once more.'"
(RPG Codex forums)

Notes

Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel 2, also canceled, would have incorporated an irradiated Garden of Eden Creation Kit similar to the one in Fallout Tactics 2.

Gallery

References

↑ Daniel Levin: "Actually, when I moved from 14 degrees east to shiny ent. I pitched a sequel to that ending but it never had a chance since interplay sold off shiny to another publisher. The first movie storyboard was a brotherhood raid on the mutant liberation army which included mass executions."
(YouTube Comment)
↑ Daniel Levin: "there's a raid being covered live and broadcasting. After killing most if the mutants they come across the mutant/ghoul nursery. They tell them to turn thr cameras off and you hear the whirling of chain guns and screaming."
(Instagram Comment)
↑ Gareth Davies: "The basic premise was that a GECK had been irradiated, and so the 'Garden of Eden' it created was full of mutant plants and fungi. Day of the Triffids, Doctor Who and the Seeds of Doom (probably my favorite episode) and the good ol' sci-fi standard of radiation = giant monsters were the big influences.
My favorite aspect of the theme was the idea that you essentially have nature doing its thing and rapidly rejuvenating the desert wastes, but those wacky humans feel the need to oppose it because they don't like the idea of becoming fertilizer. There was a lot of moral ambiguity to explore, so all in all, I think it was a pretty strong setting/narrative behind the game, especially compared to the first with its robots."
(RPG Codex forum)

[1] Daniel Levin: "Actually, when I moved from 14 degrees east to shiny ent. I pitched a sequel to that ending but it never had a chance since interplay sold off shiny to another publisher. The first movie storyboard was a brotherhood raid on the mutant liberation army which included mass executions."
(YouTube Comment)

[2] Daniel Levin: "there's a raid being covered live and broadcasting. After killing most if the mutants they come across the mutant/ghoul nursery. They tell them to turn thr cameras off and you hear the whirling of chain guns and screaming."
(Instagram Comment)

[3] Gareth Davies: "The basic premise was that a GECK had been irradiated, and so the 'Garden of Eden' it created was full of mutant plants and fungi. Day of the Triffids, Doctor Who and the Seeds of Doom (probably my favorite episode) and the good ol' sci-fi standard of radiation = giant monsters were the big influences.
My favorite aspect of the theme was the idea that you essentially have nature doing its thing and rapidly rejuvenating the desert wastes, but those wacky humans feel the need to oppose it because they don't like the idea of becoming fertilizer. There was a lot of moral ambiguity to explore, so all in all, I think it was a pretty strong setting/narrative behind the game, especially compared to the first with its robots."
(RPG Codex forum)

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+|developer    =[[Micro Forté]] <br /> [[14° East]]
 |publisher    =[[Interplay Entertainment]]
-|release date =Canceled in 2001
+|release date =Canceled (2001)
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-|rating       =None
 |platforms    =Windows
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+}}{{FOT2}}
-'''''Fallout Tactics 2''''' is the canceled sequel to [[Micro Forté]]'s ''[[Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel|Fallout Tactics]]''.
+'''''Fallout Tactics 2''''' is the canceled sequel to [[Micro Forté]] and [[14° East]]'s ''[[Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel]]''. It would have been the fourth video game set in the [[Fallout series]] and was planned for release on Microsoft Windows. It was in development by Micro Forté and 14° East and would have been published by [[Interplay Entertainment]].
 ==Development==
-Pre-production started shortly before the release of the first game, but it was canceled around December 2001. When the first game did not meet critical and financial expectations, the sequel was canceled by [[Interplay Entertainment]]. It never proceeded past the conceptual phase.
+Pre-production started shortly before the release of ''Fallout Tactics'', but it was canceled around December 2001. When the first game did not meet <!--critical and--> financial expectations, the sequel was canceled by Interplay Entertainment.{{Citation needed}} It never proceeded past the conceptual phase.
-==Story==
+==Premise==
+The game's introduction would have featured the [[Brotherhood of Steel (Midwest)|Midwest Brotherhood of Steel]], following the [[Fallout Tactics endings#General Barnaky sacrifices his brain|Barnaky ending]] in the first game, facing off against the [[Mutant Liberation Army]].<ref>[[Daniel Levin]]: ''"Actually, when I moved from 14 degrees east to [[wikipedia:Shiny Entertainment|shiny ent]]. I pitched a sequel to [[Fallout Tactics endings#General Barnaky sacrifices his brain|that ending]] but it never had a chance since interplay sold off shiny to [[wikipedia:Atari, Inc. (publisher)|another publisher]]. The first movie storyboard was a brotherhood raid on the mutant liberation army which included mass executions."''<br />([https://archive.is/s9mvo YouTube Comment])</ref> The Brotherhood would have been broadcasting live one of their raids on a Mutant base.<ref>[[Daniel Levin]]: ''"there's a raid being covered live and broadcasting. After killing most {{Tooltip|if|sic}} the mutants they come across the mutant/ghoul nursery.  They tell them to turn {{Tooltip|thr|sic}} cameras off and you hear the whirling of chain guns and screaming."''<br />([https://archive.is/1lpFm Instagram Comment])</ref>
-The game would have focused on an irradiated [[Garden of Eden Creation Kit|G.E.C.K.]] that was creating mutant plants and fungi. The mutant garden begins to spread fairly rapidly, preying upon animal life for fertilizer.<ref>[[Gareth Davies]]: ''"The basic premise was that a GECK had been irradiated, and so the 'Garden of Eden' it created was full of mutant plants and fungi. [[wikipedia:Day of the Triffids|Day of the Triffids]], [[wikipedia:Doctor Who|Doctor Who]] and the Seeds of Doom (probably my favorite episode) and the good ol' sci-fi standard of radiation = giant monsters were the big influences.<br />My favorite aspect of the theme was the idea that you essentially have nature doing its thing and rapidly rejuvenating the desert wastes, but those wacky humans feel the need to oppose it because they don't like the idea of becoming fertilizer. There was a lot of moral ambiguity to explore, so all in all, I think it was a pretty strong setting/narrative behind the game, especially compared to the first with its robots."''<br />([https://web.archive.org/web/20200526121127/https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/this-is-how-todd-responds-to-the-complaints-of-the-fans.12559/page-2 RPG Codex forum])</ref> The player character is tasked with discovering the source and a way to put an end to it. Concept art included [[mutant crocodile]]s.
+The game's primary antagonistic force would have focused on an irradiated [[Garden of Eden Creation Kit|G.E.C.K.]] that was creating mutant plants and fungi. The mutant garden begins to spread fairly rapidly, preying upon animal life for fertilizer.<ref>[[Gareth Davies]]: ''"The basic premise was that a GECK had been irradiated, and so the 'Garden of Eden' it created was full of mutant plants and fungi. [[wikipedia:Day of the Triffids|Day of the Triffids]], [[wikipedia:Doctor Who|Doctor Who]] and the Seeds of Doom (probably my favorite episode) and the good ol' sci-fi standard of radiation = giant monsters were the big influences.<br />My favorite aspect of the theme was the idea that you essentially have nature doing its thing and rapidly rejuvenating the desert wastes, but those wacky humans feel the need to oppose it because they don't like the idea of becoming fertilizer. There was a lot of moral ambiguity to explore, so all in all, I think it was a pretty strong setting/narrative behind the game, especially compared to the first with its robots."''<br />([https://web.archive.org/web/20200526121127/https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/this-is-how-todd-responds-to-the-complaints-of-the-fans.12559/page-2 RPG Codex forum])</ref> The player character is tasked with discovering the source and a way to put an end to it.
+Only bits and pieces of the game's premise are known. Concept art by a [[Tariq Raheem|Micro Forte concept artist]] included [[mutant crocodile]]s, which may have been included.
 ==Quotes==
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 * [[Tony Oakden]]: ''"IF we did Tactics 2 then I think we would want to make some major changes and we would have to think seriously about moving away from pre-rendered tiles and sprites."''<br />([https://web.archive.org/web/20200526121001/https://freelancer.ag.ru/interview/bos6_eng.shtml Freelancer interview])
 * [[Gareth Davies]]: ''"My biggest regret about Fallout Tactics 2 getting canned was the fact that we didn't get to unleash the Dialogue Tree secret encounter upon the world. 'You see the dialogue tree. It's brown, shriveled form obviously hasn't gotten the attention it deserves, but with love and care it would certainly live to bear sweet fruit once more.'"''<br />([https://web.archive.org/web/20200526121045/https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/this-is-how-todd-responds-to-the-complaints-of-the-fans.12559/page-2 RPG Codex forums])
+==Notes==
+[[Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel 2]], also canceled, would have incorporated an irradiated [[Garden of Eden Creation Kit]] similar to the one in ''Fallout Tactics 2''.
 ==Gallery==