Capital Wasteland

Protagonist's name: The Wanted

Race: human(formerly) ghoul

Protagonist's goal: to find a way to help the Brotherhood of Steel despite being a ghoul

Note:Note: Although the characters are birds, in the final version they will actually be human (it's just that I don't know how to draw humans)

Fun fact: the game starts in California and then your character goes to Washington DC (The capital Wasteland)

I searched up Shenandoah National Park and it's in Virginia and it's 75 miles from the bustle of Washington, D.C meaning we are gonna get mention or are gonna see the Capital Wasteland 25 years after the Great War meaning we could get Classic Deathclaws in the Capital and maybe some other enemies.

I imagine he could have some great impact on the Eastern Brotherhood. Could have been a cool DLC where the Brotherhood asks for your help on a top secret mission back at their home base in the Capital Wasteland. Perhaps Elijah hacked into Fort Constantine and is trying to pull a Ulysses with its nukes. I can definitely see him finding a way of gaining control of the BOS robots and turning even the Citadel into a fortress of his. Be cool if he managed to make another Holorifle, bring a securitron or so from the Mojave with him and so forth.

Update: I just thought of him bringing along some holograms, but specifically one of Vera. Imagine hearing a depressed woman's words when you first enter the Citadel. You think its a scribe or paladin who needs help and is scared but nope, it's Vera as a hologram. Makes me think of the enemies you couldn't kill in Resident Evil. Perhaps he could also have brought a little bit of cloud with him, using it as a last resort to prevent you from getting to him like the microwave hallway in Metal Gear Solid 4. So many possibilities.

This would have been a nice way of Bethesda to acknowledge both their baby Fallout 3 and Obsidian's (mostly) New Vegas. I know this won't happen but its cool to think of. Elijah is my favorite villian besides the OGs Master and Frank so sorry if I come across as obsessed with this Dead Money mastermind.

Look, I didn't mean to make fun or degrade Fallout 3,actually kinda like the environment and layout in the game, but, somehow I feel like I was not given enough prep at the start and midway. At first time, it was... Okay I guess, fairly decent gears, and decent enemies, but as I progress, the gears just became wayyyy too weak, and the enemies I were facing were freakin muties (Yeah, it's the GNR quest), and my health were sucked so fast, heck the only thing I could do to clear out them muties was by using Fat Man. Not only that, I couldn't find any Stimpak, like jeez, Stimpak was so hard to find.

Compare it to NV, NV gave lots of decent gears for different play style. Oh you wanna go with energy play style? Here have some Laser Pistol, LITERALLY right beside you before you went out from Chad Mitchell's house. Oh you want to go Melee? Here have some Razor to inflict Double freakin crit damage. Oh you wanna go Pew Pew? Don't worry Sunny will give you Vermint, and next to Saloon you got yerself some suppliers you can meet and replenish your ammo. And the area is soo easy to travel, no need to go tunnles and make yourself lost.

What do you guys think? If you think FO3 is easy and I'm just a big dummy dumb dumb, pleasee tell me where can I get decent gears and some stimpaks.

I only ask this because it's entirely possible that it is, however in the quest, there is no sight of the Brotherhood of Steel to defend the Galaxy News Radio Plaza. That must mean that Elder Arthur Maxson has taken so many troops from the Capital Wasteland that they can barely defend their own borders as it is suggested that they have a nation built up there.

If it is not Canon, as many Creation Club mods aren't, then we can just write this off as Bethesda trying to give us a reason to go back to DC for some fan service.

What's your guy's answer?

My Character Is a Merc the four states Colorado specifically i’m hunting the murder of my mom and my aunt and my wife his name is Bryce Phillips

And my hunting buddy is my daughter Alice Jackson my name is John Jackson

(plz don’t kill my daughter i don’t care if I don’t survive this as long as Bryce dies in the end)

The location is capital wasteland to Commonwealth

I just looted all of vault 106 in another file. However it is listed as having 2 pre war books I never found any. I went through the entire vault 2 times . Can anyone else confirm if they are there or not ?

From the vastness of the Capital Wasteland to the confines of Adams Air Force Base, what trace of the Enclave do you think remains?

Did some members become Remnants hidden amongst the populace, or do you think some may have been assimilated into the Brotherhood?

How much of a mark did the Enclave leave behind? Is their technology, and traces of their outposts, still scattered across the Wastes?

Bonus questions: What impact did they have on the BoS? Is the Brotherhood's gruffness and slightly more harsh behaviour in 2287 solely because of Maxson's reforms, or their experiences at the hands of the Enclave? Why don't the Brotherhood utilise their technology?

Feel free to discuss in the comments!

If you had to join one of these factions (lorewise), which would you pick and why?

For the sake of Lore Discussion, consider these factions alive and well, as well as independent.

The Enclave insignia.

Enclave troopers landing to engage the enemy.

On the one hand, we have the Enclave. They claim to be the continuation of the sovereign United States government before the war, and have built highly advanced bunkers and military facilities to house their faction. The truth is far more sinister, as they were actually a secret shadow government which controlled the country from behind the scenes, before the war occurred. They have an "elected" President from amongst themselves, and they exterminate those they deem sub-human (affected by the Great War and Wasteland radiation) as well as those they deem mutants. They believe themselves to be pure-humans, the opposite, and go on genocidal campaigns across the Wasteland in an attempt to seize control.

They utilise laser and plasma weaponry. They possess variations of Advanced Power Armour, as well as Hellfire Armour, the most advanced power Armour created by human hands. They also use Vertibirds for ease of transportation.

However, despite their technological edge and various resources at their disposal, they have created a lot of enemies whilst attempting to cleanse the wasteland, and have periodically lost multiple conflicts against weaker enemies. They serve as one of the Wasteland's most staunch villains, and are completely devoid of any compassion or empathy for those outside of their group.

The Brotherhood Outcasts' insignia.

Brotherhood Outcasts patrolling the Wastes.

The Brotherhood Outcasts were founded by Paladin Henry Casdin (now Protector), who broke off from Lyons' Brotherhood of Steel on the East Coast. They believed that they were not carrying out original mission of collecting technology from the Eastern cities and military bases, and that it was not the job of the Brotherhood to save every wastelander or fight their conflicts. They believed such efforts were a waste of manpower and resources, and that their Elder, Owyn Lyons, had "gone native". After all, everyone knows how to make another human but the knowledge to create a P94 Plasma Rifle is all but lost. They split from their Elder and roam the Wastes, combing through bases looking for technology, and hope to get in contact with the Western Elders to discipline Lyons.

The Brotherhood Outcasts have the same arsenal as their parent organisation, having stolen a significant cache of technology upon leaving the Citadel. They wield laser weaponry, as well as conventional firearms, and outfit themselves in T-45d Power Armour painted red and black. They utilise robots such as the formidable Sentry Bot, Robobrain and the Protectron in order to supplement their small numbers in the field. They can occasionally be seen wielding melee weapons. They scour the Wasteland looking for technology, and make their base out of Fort Independence in the Capital Wasteland. They can also be seen fighting the Enclave, sometimes being victorious despite the Enclave's technological edge, which is a testament to their resolve.

However, the Brotherhood Outcasts are equally lacking in empathy and compassion thanks to their ordeals with the Brotherhood of Steel schism, and take hardline views concerning wastelanders and communities, as the technology must come first. They have been known to resort to any means necessary to acquire said technology, in one instance resulting in a violent confrontation in the Operation: Anchorage DLC amongst it's own members. They are denounced as traitors by their parent organisation, and the two can be seen in conflict at times. It takes little provocation to have them open fire on wastelanders, who they berate as "locals", which has earned them a pretty negative reputation as (some would say) cutthroat thieves and murderers.

Let the community know in the comments which faction you would choose and why.

Not picking is still a valid answer, but doesn't exactly meet the point of the discussion.

Depictions of the various Knightly Orders (or Crusaders).

Quite a few people consider the Brotherhood of Steel's Capital Wasteland government as an Ordensstaat, however the use of such a term, and its justification on the wiki, is incorrect.

I'll put on my historian hat and explain why. This is not about just changing the explanation on the wiki, but more of an explanation to the community about the difference of such a word in correct historical terms. I also had quite the discussion with my girlfriend (who is German) about the correct term to use, and I have arrived at my conclusion thanks to her.

Here are some historical facts for all of you to consider. If you're bored, then believe me, I have to write a dissertation on the topic of the Crusades, so bear with me.

A depiction of Teutonic Knight Cavalry.

An "Ordensstaat" is not a form of government. It's the short term for Deutschordensstaat ("German Order State") which was the name of the Teutonic Order's (German Order) lands for German speakers. In German, this is all it refers to and all it means, as no other Germanic states have called themselves this.

State of the Teutonic Order from 1260-1410 CE.

(Key: Dark orange is territory acquired in 1309 CE. The lighter shade of orange is territory acquired in 1346 CE. The lightest shade is territory acquired as late as 1402 CE.)

Variations of the Teutonic Order's name in German are Deutscher Orden, Deutschherrenorden and Deutschritterorden.

In fact, there's something of a negative connotation for the phrase "Deutscher Orden" after 1945, as it was at one point the name of the highest award the Nazi Party bestowed on individuals for service to "state and party".

Interestingly, the German inhabitants of the Holy Roman Empire did a similar thing with that respective state, calling it das Heilige Römische Reich Deutscher Nation, meaning "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation".

Knights from the Teutonic Order sometimes bore an eagle similar to the Holy Roman Empire, as they owed allegiance to them.

The military orders that had similar states, such as the Knight Hospitallers (also known as the Knights of Rhodes) and Knight Templars, were collectively known as the Crusader States (DE: "Kreuzfahrerstaaten").

The first real Crusader States, or Kreuzfahrerstaaten, before expansion in Europe.

The first Crusade was initiated by Pope Urban II to protect the Byzantine Empire, which was under attack by Muslim Seljuk Turks. (1096-1102 CE)

They were never known as "Ordensstaats" or "Order States". All "Kreuzfahrerstaaten" operated in a very similar manner. There were no real distinctions between one another except the conventions upheld by each individual knightly order, who operated as a type of policing force that guarded roads, towns and their headquarters (Singular: Commandery, or Kommandantur, still used today).

The Crusader States typically refer only to the territory administered by these factions in the Middle and Near East during the Crusades, however they survived and flourished for a time in Europe, including the Teutonic Order in parts of Old Prussia and beyond, where they were still referred to as holy knights and crusaders, hence the singular word Kreuzfahrerstaat, or Crusader State.

The Crusades were never truly restricted to simply the Near and Middle East after this, as Crusaders expanded throughout Europe and fought nations such as Lithuania and Poland to christianise under Papal and Holy Roman authority.

Commanderies (castles administering land) of the Knight Hospitallers circa 1300 CE. The island in red in the bottom right corner is Rhodes, the signature land owned by the Knight Hospitallers, who later became Knights of Rhodes after the schism of Catholicism and Protestantism, with Knight Hospitallers taking both sides and losing most European territory.

Military orders in religious society are also known to be Christian religious societies of knights (latin: militaris ordinis). These orders would defend the Crusader States, also known as "chivalric orders" for their knightly code.

Image depicting the orders of holy knights throughout the Crusades and later Europe, as well as all of their known heraldry.

One knightly order missing from the previous picture are also the Knights of the Holy Sepulcre.

Calling the Brotherhood's territory an "Ordenstaat" is like calling the NCR's form of government the Republic of Athens in Greek. It's fundamentally incorrect.

It's more accurate to call the Brotherhood's (and the Teutonic Order's) land a "Crusader State", being formed and protected by religious warriors, or literally protected by an Order of knights and religious warriors. Translated into English, "Order State" is incorrect, as it is not a form of government recognised by historical, historiographical or governmental academics.

However, @ThreeSecondRush believes that the reason why people would perhaps not associate the Brotherhood's territory as a Kreuzfahrerstaat is because of the negative connotation surrounding genocide and the holy conquests.

The correct name is "German Order State" (because the Teutonic Order was also called the German Order), which references the historical order, whom the Brotherhood are not imitating in the slightest. The full name for the Teutonic Order in German was Orden der Brüder vom Deutschen Haus der Heiligen Maria in Jerusalem. ("Order of Brothers of the German House of Saint Maria of Jerusalem")

History has never seen any other "Ordenstaat", as that would mean another iteration of "German Order State", but it was a Kreuzfahrerstaat.

The Brotherhood don't run their land like the Teutonic Order did (that we know), as you had to have certain social standing in the aristocracy in order to join their ranks as fledged knights.

The only similarity is that the Papal State and the Holy Roman Empire sanctioned the Teutonic Order in the same way that the Western Elders sanction the East Coast Brotherhood. That, however, is no real similarity in governance.

The Teutonic Order explicitly protected Christians that swore allegiance to God, and I don't believe the Brotherhood demands of everyone that they swear allegiance to Roger Maxson. Therefore, the correct term is "Crusader State", or if you'd like a fancy German word for it..

Kreuzfahrerstaat.

What do you guys think? I hope you enjoyed the post!

People say that it was turned into a AAA shooter like COD or something, but just because the shooting is better now doesn’t make it a shooter. People say it’s not an RPG anymore: 1: if Zelda is an rpg this is, 2: it has the RPG elements: they are just different and updated. The dialogue system could be better, but I still think that it is good. All they needed was to use the d-pad or have a “More” button. Sure, there are less options, less negotiations, but I think that is because they made the shooting decent, and they wanted you to shoot. Also, in 3 and New Vegas, there was not much negotiating. I really don’t get it. I much prefer the Commonwealth to the Capital Wasteland and the Mojave, and Diamond City is better than anywhere I’ve been in 3, and only The Strip is better (that I’ve seen) in NV. It has great lore with Valentine, and the companions are great. I get that you don’t like that you have a spouse and child, but you completely can ignore that fact. People say that the dialogue choices are fake and always get to the same place: same as in 3 and NV. You have basically multiple ways to get to the end of the talk. You can still do the same thing, it’s just a bit more obvious. Do you have any ideas on this? Sorry for this long block of text.