@HorrorMasterGuy

Yeah, the story leaves a bit to be desired.

I find settlement building fun though. But then again, I've always liked making cool things.

This has actually explained a lot.

Also, voiced protagonist is a con? I thought it was cool.

Honestly I don't personally see the big fuckin' deal. So what? It's different from the games made by other developers, cry about it. I enjoy the game and so do a lot of other people. The only reason you see a lot of hate is because the haters talk the most.

True.

I mean, I really enjoy Interplay's Fallout, because it reminds me of Dungeons and Dragons, but post-apocalyptic and sci-fi. I haven't played 3 or NV yet, though.

My biggest issue with Fallout 4 is that the story is actually one of the saddest in the Fallout series, but the game doesn't use that or display that. The game doesn't feel sad. It's almost like "Here, your partner is dead, and your son is missing!" but then it just forgets about it. I do think the sadness of the story should have been more prevalent, it would have made the game better in my opinion.

^ I do agree with that, it would have made for some nice character development and allowed players to have more understanding of how terrible the events were but it's just like "oh ok"

It's almost like people can have an opinion.

This wiki (and most of the fanbase) rides Fallout 4 meat nonstop, but as soon as a few people criticize it, it's suddenly "poor wittle Bethesda fans"?

And y'all call New Vegas/classic fans toxic, lmfao.

I haven't noticed.

^ In my experience, Bethesda fans are more annoying. But you don't need to drag it into every thread.

I don't see why we can't just let people be fans of the people who release games we enjoy. So what? Someone likes Bethesda despite the amount of glitches and bugs in their games, what's the problem? Let people have their opinions, jesus fucking christ.

You know how Andor set the bar too high for what Star Wars media should be? NV did that for Fallout(though NV fans tend to respect the classic Fallouts). And because of that, the internet hates the bug like they hate the mouse. You know, I’m starting to think that maybe Nick didn’t suffer, and that those who think Elster and Simon suffered less than him don’t understand the art that is SIGNALIS and SOMA. Also, fuck Beth and Disney

^ honestly i heard andor was dogshit but i get your point

Dogshit? Buddy, whoever said that could not be more wrong.