It's unlikely a lot of people think the Legion, or the slavers of Paradise Falls are genuenly morally good factions, however here is the one faction I have absolutely no sympathies for; the Brotherhood of Steel.

Let's look at the BoS;

A group born from some remnants of the US army after the Great Wat, their purpose? Accumulating all technology and knowledge about it and prevent it from being in other people's hands, somehow with the illusion that in doing so you will prevent another destruction of humanity.

"So, does the brotherhood protect people from raiders and such?" The Player

"No no no; we protect people only from themselves" Veronica

So in a time where there are not only raiders; but super-mutants, ghouls, deathclaws, cazadores, invading armies of brutal slavers... you have to protect people from themselves. Even when people need the most technology to defend themselves against very serious threats, you still need to make sure they never have the knowledge you do.

But what happens when they do protect people?

Insert the meme of "you have liberated us!" "Oh I wouldn't say liberate, more like under new management" here; the Brotherhood od steel as soon as it gains power keep going with its prospect of hoarding technology for themselves and actively opressing people in order to fulfill their views.

The views and methods of the BoS are innately evil towards the people they are supposedly protecting, they have this self-entitlement that they are the most morally superior group out there and therefore the most fit towards controlling people and technology, "it's for your own good" would be a good phrase to describe the Brotherhood's methods and views. They pretty much ignore how evil they themselves can turn; Father Elijah is a perfect example of this; he seizes control over a lot of very powerful technology, and if successful, proceeds to become the newest dictator of the wasteland.

They are protecting nobody other than themselves and they self-assure themselves they are protecting innocents civilians in the process, and the result is quite simply another power-hungry group, that will kill and actively hurt/opress people under the banner of "WE ARE MORALLY SUPERIOR! SUBMIT OR DIE!"

Now, to the BoS fans out there, like the title says: Change my mind, I dare you.

Greetings y'all. Figured I'd just announce that there's been a minor change to our wiki's post categories. "Other Fallout games" is now "Other Fallout media" and "Future/Canned games" is now "Future/Canned media". This doesn't really change much but was done to make the categories more inclusive to the non-game Fallout media out there, including the books and upcoming Fallout TV series (check here if you wanna talk about it with other users: fallout.fandom.com/d/p/4400000000000036391 ). This also finally gives a proper place to put suggestions about future Fallout movies or TV shows that we occasionally get but used to have to relegate to General due to them not having their own category. Thanks, and g'day.

I fucking sure hope Bethesda doesn't screw this one up

Mr. House is an ethical conundrum. When you first meet him, he’s a slightly pompous ass talking tele screen, but he pays, so whatever. But as you progress in The House Always Wins, he’s a much more complex character. On one hand, he can by defined as a dictator, as he rules with an iron fist and deals with those who oppose him harshly. On the other, he could legitimately be mankind’s savior and propel man to the stars (Which is something we dream about today). But again on the reverse, he has us kill the entirety of the Mojave BOS based purely on his calculations, and will disregard the pc, even if the PC has idolized standing with BOS. But even again, does the wasteland need him to survive and Flourish. Can he be killed without severe repercussions to the human race?

What are some good methods of maintaining neutral karma in Fallout 3?

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